| Ed Sheeran 22:48 - Sep 14 with 34500 views | BlueNomad |
Shame he hasn’t made a stand in support of his friend Macklemore.
Macklemore dropped from Ed Sheeran tour after 'Free Palestine' speech https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art [Post edited 14 Sep 22:49]
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| Ed Sheeran on 08:56 - Sep 15 with 1229 views | giant_stow |
| Ed Sheeran on 08:47 - Sep 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
His chosen profession? He’s a singer, not a politician.
Poor taste to call him pro-genocide, Kneecap actively waved a Hezbollah flag on stage (who committed various massacres against Syrian Civilians) and were praised by many on here.
Mad world. Pretty sure like Ashton-gate, this will all blow over fairly quickly, Sheeran has done nothing wrong, and unlike the noise of SM most people are actually not that politically engaged. Those in the wrong are the ones trying to shut down any support of Palestine, not people just looking to sing a few songs.
I’ve not seen Ham use his platform for adding a pro-Palestine voice, maybe we should shut down TWTD. Or maybe like most people he’s just doing his job… [Post edited 15 Sep 8:49]
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| Ed Sheeran on 08:57 - Sep 15 with 1152 views | Benters |
| Ed Sheeran on 08:17 - Sep 15 by GlasgowBlue |
I assume there will be an anti Sheeran protest before the Arsenal game tonight by the statue of Sir Alf? |
5 minutes after the Ashton Out protest.  |  |
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| Ed Sheeran on 08:59 - Sep 15 with 1149 views | Benters |
| Ed Sheeran on 08:24 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Not to go all Rommers VS Declan Rice, but…
When Wiley called Ed a ‘culture vulture’ in 2019, he was right.
Ed has *always* been hyper focused on himself and his bank balance, diluting and regurgitating other people’s culture and work, and carefully crafting a PR image that presents him as an ‘every man’ or ‘just an ordinary bloke’ that is essentially built off the back of him not being conventionally attractive or how people think a pop star would/should look.
Over the last two decades he’s entered various communities/cultures/social groups- stripping out what he thinks is monetisable, diluting it, reappropriating and repackaging it alongside a carefully constructed narrative, all designed to help him be as broad as possible and sell as much turgid bland flavourless guff as possible to as many people as possible.
He has repeatedly strong armed himself into various media giants/franchises, under the guise of the “I’m just a massive fan” every guy persona, to get his name and face and music to an almost ubiquitous presence.
Lego, Star Wars, Game of Thrones, The Hobbit, Pokémon, all kinds of franchises, events, areas he has no right in being such a presence in, but that are/were some of the biggest properties in the world.
No one ever asks why it’s just Sheeran who cynically systemically and repeatedly self inserts himself into pop culture on repeat, or the value it brings him to align with these Goliaths and/or include it in his carefully constructed public narrative, etc.
He’s a very conceited man and always has been.
Personally, I can’t stand the way he uses our club as an extension of his PR machine- and while I do appreciate that him using us in this way brings in millions upon millions for the club, some things are more important than money.
He isn’t ‘apolitical’ he just thought people were stupid enough to accept that as a reasoning for passively siding with genocide. Ed has enough money and power to strong arm the venues and those around him to keep Macklemore on the tour, he’s just more concerned with his bank balance and the ‘hurt’ he mentions, than 3 years of countless slaughtered innocent children.
What a cowardly little gimp Sheeran is. Hiding behind excuses - I always knew he was extraordinarily conceited and self interested, but this is a new low.
I guess the only positive in all of this is that it absolutely dismantles him cosplaying as an Irishman anymore- one of his many PR constructs. [Post edited 15 Sep 8:27]
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| Board Legend on 09:00 - Sep 15 with 1151 views | Benters |
| This is a great example of…. on 08:45 - Sep 15 by Bloots |
…TWTD forum rule number 1.
“If you don’t relentlessly bang on about something being bad, it means you think it’s good”.
I’m gonna wear my “Don’t kick old grannies in the face” t-shirt today, otherwise people will assume I’m all for it. |
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| Ed Sheeran on 09:01 - Sep 15 with 1206 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Ed Sheeran on 08:24 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Not to go all Rommers VS Declan Rice, but…
When Wiley called Ed a ‘culture vulture’ in 2019, he was right.
Ed has *always* been hyper focused on himself and his bank balance, diluting and regurgitating other people’s culture and work, and carefully crafting a PR image that presents him as an ‘every man’ or ‘just an ordinary bloke’ that is essentially built off the back of him not being conventionally attractive or how people think a pop star would/should look.
Over the last two decades he’s entered various communities/cultures/social groups- stripping out what he thinks is monetisable, diluting it, reappropriating and repackaging it alongside a carefully constructed narrative, all designed to help him be as broad as possible and sell as much turgid bland flavourless guff as possible to as many people as possible.
He has repeatedly strong armed himself into various media giants/franchises, under the guise of the “I’m just a massive fan” every guy persona, to get his name and face and music to an almost ubiquitous presence.
Lego, Star Wars, Game of Thrones, The Hobbit, Pokémon, all kinds of franchises, events, areas he has no right in being such a presence in, but that are/were some of the biggest properties in the world.
No one ever asks why it’s just Sheeran who cynically systemically and repeatedly self inserts himself into pop culture on repeat, or the value it brings him to align with these Goliaths and/or include it in his carefully constructed public narrative, etc.
He’s a very conceited man and always has been.
Personally, I can’t stand the way he uses our club as an extension of his PR machine- and while I do appreciate that him using us in this way brings in millions upon millions for the club, some things are more important than money.
He isn’t ‘apolitical’ he just thought people were stupid enough to accept that as a reasoning for passively siding with genocide. Ed has enough money and power to strong arm the venues and those around him to keep Macklemore on the tour, he’s just more concerned with his bank balance and the ‘hurt’ he mentions, than 3 years of countless slaughtered innocent children.
What a cowardly little gimp Sheeran is. Hiding behind excuses - I always knew he was extraordinarily conceited and self interested, but this is a new low.
I guess the only positive in all of this is that it absolutely dismantles him cosplaying as an Irishman anymore- one of his many PR constructs. [Post edited 15 Sep 8:27]
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Man in corporate world pretending he’s a man of the people but is only interested in money
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| Ed Sheeran on 09:07 - Sep 15 with 1173 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:01 - Sep 15 by Reuser_is_God |
Man in corporate world pretending he’s a man of the people but is only interested in money
SHOCK |
Aye, that’s a solid dilution - but he does it on a scale like no other and has always had this MO. That and the sheer scale of the “success” and length of time he’s been culture vulture’ing/had people duped is what’s notable.
This situation just punctuates what cynical, conceited, disingenuous little gimp he is and exposes the depths he’s willing to drop to in order to maintain that, despite already being disgustingly wealthy.
There’s comments/up-votes in this thread delivered by people who around two decades ago were in amongst it in the local music scene when Sheeran was.
They’ll know the genius of what he has created is that his narrative fabrication has just about enough truth to it, that those looking at a distance wouldn’t question it, most would celebrate it- again, just an MO he has taken and repeated year-on-year-on-year.
I imagine there’s a few who used to know him who are finding this quite cathartic. [Post edited 15 Sep 9:24]
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| So am I. (n/t) on 09:15 - Sep 15 with 1122 views | Bloots |
| Board Legend on 09:00 - Sep 15 by Benters |
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| Ed Sheeran on 09:23 - Sep 15 with 1083 views | Mullet |
| Ed Sheeran on 08:47 - Sep 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
His chosen profession? He’s a singer, not a politician.
Poor taste to call him pro-genocide, Kneecap actively waved a Hezbollah flag on stage (who committed various massacres against Syrian Civilians) and were praised by many on here.
Mad world. Pretty sure like Ashton-gate, this will all blow over fairly quickly, Sheeran has done nothing wrong, and unlike the noise of SM most people are actually not that politically engaged. Those in the wrong are the ones trying to shut down any support of Palestine, not people just looking to sing a few songs.
I’ve not seen Ham use his platform for adding a pro-Palestine voice, maybe we should shut down TWTD. Or maybe like most people he’s just doing his job… [Post edited 15 Sep 8:49]
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Who praised Hezbollah on here? I’m surprised that didn’t erupt into something if so. |  |
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| This is a great example of…. on 09:27 - Sep 15 with 1061 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| This is a great example of…. on 08:45 - Sep 15 by Bloots |
…TWTD forum rule number 1.
“If you don’t relentlessly bang on about something being bad, it means you think it’s good”.
I’m gonna wear my “Don’t kick old grannies in the face” t-shirt today, otherwise people will assume I’m all for it. |
Nah, personally I think you're judged on the stuff you do come out with rather than what you don't! |  |
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| Ed Sheeran on 09:30 - Sep 15 with 1055 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:07 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Aye, that’s a solid dilution - but he does it on a scale like no other and has always had this MO. That and the sheer scale of the “success” and length of time he’s been culture vulture’ing/had people duped is what’s notable.
This situation just punctuates what cynical, conceited, disingenuous little gimp he is and exposes the depths he’s willing to drop to in order to maintain that, despite already being disgustingly wealthy.
There’s comments/up-votes in this thread delivered by people who around two decades ago were in amongst it in the local music scene when Sheeran was.
They’ll know the genius of what he has created is that his narrative fabrication has just about enough truth to it, that those looking at a distance wouldn’t question it, most would celebrate it- again, just an MO he has taken and repeated year-on-year-on-year.
I imagine there’s a few who used to know him who are finding this quite cathartic. [Post edited 15 Sep 9:24]
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just an MO he has taken and repeated year-on-year-on-year.
Sound like me in my job, so I can't criticise him for that.
Does this issue regarding Gaza just give you the opportunity to criticise someone you don't really like? Despite the fact he hasn't really done anything offensive except to be commercially successful? |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:37 - Sep 15 with 1018 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:30 - Sep 15 by balcombeblue |
just an MO he has taken and repeated year-on-year-on-year.
Sound like me in my job, so I can't criticise him for that.
Does this issue regarding Gaza just give you the opportunity to criticise someone you don't really like? Despite the fact he hasn't really done anything offensive except to be commercially successful? |
It’s a fair question you’re asking - I personally believe in a free Palestine and I am vocal in my personal life about that and have turned down professional work with companies who don’t share those values. However, yes- I’d be lying if I told you that I wasn’t enjoying how this has exposed the manner in which Ed operates and that I’ve never been a fan of him on a personal level and/or how he professionally conducts himself and often find the well cultivated and widely accepted public image that’s a juxtaposition of much of the reality, a bit annoying.
I don’t think he expected his passiveness to expose him, his values, how he operates, in this way. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:47 - Sep 15 with 951 views | Churchman |
| Ed Sheeran on 08:24 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Not to go all Rommers VS Declan Rice, but…
When Wiley called Ed a ‘culture vulture’ in 2019, he was right.
Ed has *always* been hyper focused on himself and his bank balance, diluting and regurgitating other people’s culture and work, and carefully crafting a PR image that presents him as an ‘every man’ or ‘just an ordinary bloke’ that is essentially built off the back of him not being conventionally attractive or how people think a pop star would/should look.
Over the last two decades he’s entered various communities/cultures/social groups- stripping out what he thinks is monetisable, diluting it, reappropriating and repackaging it alongside a carefully constructed narrative, all designed to help him be as broad as possible and sell as much turgid bland flavourless guff as possible to as many people as possible.
He has repeatedly strong armed himself into various media giants/franchises, under the guise of the “I’m just a massive fan” every guy persona, to get his name and face and music to an almost ubiquitous presence.
Lego, Star Wars, Game of Thrones, The Hobbit, Pokémon, all kinds of franchises, events, areas he has no right in being such a presence in, but that are/were some of the biggest properties in the world.
No one ever asks why it’s just Sheeran who cynically systemically and repeatedly self inserts himself into pop culture on repeat, or the value it brings him to align with these Goliaths and/or include it in his carefully constructed public narrative, etc.
He’s a very conceited man and always has been.
Personally, I can’t stand the way he uses our club as an extension of his PR machine- and while I do appreciate that him using us in this way brings in millions upon millions for the club, some things are more important than money.
He isn’t ‘apolitical’ he just thought people were stupid enough to accept that as a reasoning for passively siding with genocide. Ed has enough money and power to strong arm the venues and those around him to keep Macklemore on the tour, he’s just more concerned with his bank balance and the ‘hurt’ he mentions, than 3 years of countless slaughtered innocent children.
What a cowardly little gimp Sheeran is. Hiding behind excuses - I always knew he was extraordinarily conceited and self interested, but this is a new low.
I guess the only positive in all of this is that it absolutely dismantles him cosplaying as an Irishman anymore- one of his many PR constructs. [Post edited 15 Sep 8:27]
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Sheeran has put more into this club than many people, including you and me, ever did.
Are you accusing him of plagiarism? I presume not as I understand it he has never been convicted of it or copyright infringement in a criminal or civil court. If you believe and have evidence to the contrary, I’m sure the public media would be very interested. Take him on!!
As for his music, it’s a matter of personal taste. It’s not for me, but I have seen him play live 14 years ago and he is good at what he does. For me it sits in the Taylor Swift unmemorable category, but however enraged you are, he is a highly successful a singer songwriter. Conceited? Have you met him? To say that I presume you have. What’s he like? As for his image, of course he has one. All artists do. In fact all people do.
I doubt he’s ‘strong armed’ himself anywhere. If big organisations want him, that’s because it’s a business opportunity for them. It’s no difference to the buying of ITFC in 2021. They had never heard of the place but saw an opportunity in an area they were keen to exploit.
Cowardly little gimp? Why don’t you seek him out and tell him to his face? He attends football matches sometimes. Give it a go. Or is it easier to bash that keyboard with spit flying fury?
Who he chooses to have on his tour is his own affair. Personally, the guy who put him in this position shouldn’t have done it. If he was going to make a political statement he should have had the curtesy to ask Sheeran first. He literally put Sheeran in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t position.
Of course Sheeran has his views. Don’t know the bloke, don’t wish to know or care whether is pro Palestinian, Israeli, Satanist, vegan or Romulan.
Musicians should stick to music. There’s a way to avoid politics if you are a public person as Dolly Parton amply demonstrated. Same applies to footballers sticking to football, football club running to just that. There’s no place for politics in them. There’s enough room elsewhere in this world for that. In fact too much of it, not least because it gives the Trumps of this world the oxygen they crave. |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:52 - Sep 15 with 967 views | LeoMuff |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:47 - Sep 15 by Churchman |
Sheeran has put more into this club than many people, including you and me, ever did.
Are you accusing him of plagiarism? I presume not as I understand it he has never been convicted of it or copyright infringement in a criminal or civil court. If you believe and have evidence to the contrary, I’m sure the public media would be very interested. Take him on!!
As for his music, it’s a matter of personal taste. It’s not for me, but I have seen him play live 14 years ago and he is good at what he does. For me it sits in the Taylor Swift unmemorable category, but however enraged you are, he is a highly successful a singer songwriter. Conceited? Have you met him? To say that I presume you have. What’s he like? As for his image, of course he has one. All artists do. In fact all people do.
I doubt he’s ‘strong armed’ himself anywhere. If big organisations want him, that’s because it’s a business opportunity for them. It’s no difference to the buying of ITFC in 2021. They had never heard of the place but saw an opportunity in an area they were keen to exploit.
Cowardly little gimp? Why don’t you seek him out and tell him to his face? He attends football matches sometimes. Give it a go. Or is it easier to bash that keyboard with spit flying fury?
Who he chooses to have on his tour is his own affair. Personally, the guy who put him in this position shouldn’t have done it. If he was going to make a political statement he should have had the curtesy to ask Sheeran first. He literally put Sheeran in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t position.
Of course Sheeran has his views. Don’t know the bloke, don’t wish to know or care whether is pro Palestinian, Israeli, Satanist, vegan or Romulan.
Musicians should stick to music. There’s a way to avoid politics if you are a public person as Dolly Parton amply demonstrated. Same applies to footballers sticking to football, football club running to just that. There’s no place for politics in them. There’s enough room elsewhere in this world for that. In fact too much of it, not least because it gives the Trumps of this world the oxygen they crave. |
Musicians should stick to music Lol
Music has been about politics, war, oppression, tax, love since music began ! |  |
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| Ed Sheeran on 09:53 - Sep 15 with 959 views | eirannach_gorm |
Macklemore told his followers that he is not a victim, nor are Pink or Sheeran. He wrote that the victims are the Palestinian people who have been “forced to live through unimaginable violence.” |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:54 - Sep 15 with 946 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:52 - Sep 15 by LeoMuff |
Musicians should stick to music Lol
Music has been about politics, war, oppression, tax, love since music began ! |
I’ve got this fella blocked for being a whopper before, I can only assume the boot licking going on 😂 | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:55 - Sep 15 with 904 views | Churchman |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:52 - Sep 15 by LeoMuff |
Musicians should stick to music Lol
Music has been about politics, war, oppression, tax, love since music began ! |
Happy with the last one, never been happy with the rest, not that I’ve ever really listened to lyrics tbh. Bit of a musical philistine really. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:59 - Sep 15 with 910 views | LeoMuff |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:54 - Sep 15 by Libero |
I’ve got this fella blocked for being a whopper before, I can only assume the boot licking going on 😂 |
You assume wrong, as usual | |
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| Ed Sheeran on 10:01 - Sep 15 with 901 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:59 - Sep 15 by LeoMuff |
You assume wrong, as usual |
Nice to know you’re keeping tabs - who are you, again? | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:05 - Sep 15 with 874 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:54 - Sep 15 by Libero |
I’ve got this fella blocked for being a whopper before, I can only assume the boot licking going on 😂 |
He’s a good poster.
I’m curious why it makes Ed ‘less Irish’ (even if it is tenuous). The Irish like anyone, aren’t a monolith or views - that would be just weird. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:06 - Sep 15 with 868 views | giant_stow |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:01 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Nice to know you’re keeping tabs - who are you, again? |
No need - he only disagreed with you! | |
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| Ed Sheeran on 10:09 - Sep 15 with 856 views | LeoMuff |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:06 - Sep 15 by giant_stow |
No need - he only disagreed with you! |
Thankyou, though he of course can’t see what I’m posting … | |
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| Ed Sheeran on 10:12 - Sep 15 with 834 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:09 - Sep 15 by LeoMuff |
Thankyou, though he of course can’t see what I’m posting … |
I see what you’ve done here- you think I’m referring to you. I’m not, I’m referring to the fella you were quoting, whose post I couldn’t see.
Clearly, I wouldn’t be referring to you, as you’ve illustrated- if you were blocked, I wouldn’t be able to see your post… [Post edited 15 Sep 10:13]
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| Ed Sheeran on 10:13 - Sep 15 with 818 views | Backtoblue78A |
| Ed Sheeran on 23:32 - Sep 14 by giant_stow |
In friendship terms, I feel Sheeran's more wronged, if anything. He gets his mates to join him on a big tour, only for that guy to drop you the middle of hugely public ethical dilemma. I'd feel played with and manipulated if I were Ed. |
In all seriousness, selecting fans of Ed Sheeran to deliver a political message about anything is slightly ridiculous. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:14 - Sep 15 with 820 views | BlueBoots |
| Ed Sheeran on 09:47 - Sep 15 by Churchman |
Sheeran has put more into this club than many people, including you and me, ever did.
Are you accusing him of plagiarism? I presume not as I understand it he has never been convicted of it or copyright infringement in a criminal or civil court. If you believe and have evidence to the contrary, I’m sure the public media would be very interested. Take him on!!
As for his music, it’s a matter of personal taste. It’s not for me, but I have seen him play live 14 years ago and he is good at what he does. For me it sits in the Taylor Swift unmemorable category, but however enraged you are, he is a highly successful a singer songwriter. Conceited? Have you met him? To say that I presume you have. What’s he like? As for his image, of course he has one. All artists do. In fact all people do.
I doubt he’s ‘strong armed’ himself anywhere. If big organisations want him, that’s because it’s a business opportunity for them. It’s no difference to the buying of ITFC in 2021. They had never heard of the place but saw an opportunity in an area they were keen to exploit.
Cowardly little gimp? Why don’t you seek him out and tell him to his face? He attends football matches sometimes. Give it a go. Or is it easier to bash that keyboard with spit flying fury?
Who he chooses to have on his tour is his own affair. Personally, the guy who put him in this position shouldn’t have done it. If he was going to make a political statement he should have had the curtesy to ask Sheeran first. He literally put Sheeran in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t position.
Of course Sheeran has his views. Don’t know the bloke, don’t wish to know or care whether is pro Palestinian, Israeli, Satanist, vegan or Romulan.
Musicians should stick to music. There’s a way to avoid politics if you are a public person as Dolly Parton amply demonstrated. Same applies to footballers sticking to football, football club running to just that. There’s no place for politics in them. There’s enough room elsewhere in this world for that. In fact too much of it, not least because it gives the Trumps of this world the oxygen they crave. |
"There’s a way to avoid politics if you are a public person as Dolly Parton amply demonstrated."
In terms of aligning with political parties, yes, but if there was a cause that she felt would benefit from the backing of her voice, she wasn't shy about doing that:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor |  |
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| Ed Sheeran on 10:15 - Sep 15 with 815 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:14 - Sep 15 by BlueBoots |
"There’s a way to avoid politics if you are a public person as Dolly Parton amply demonstrated."
In terms of aligning with political parties, yes, but if there was a cause that she felt would benefit from the backing of her voice, she wasn't shy about doing that:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor |
Dolly was the quite literal antithesis to Sheeran, she didn’t want to hoard millions upon millions and went far and beyond the regular charitable affairs that are good for public relations but essentially tax benefits. A gem of a woman who stood up for what she believed in and had strong principles and values. [Post edited 15 Sep 10:16]
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