| Jaden affected the game today 18:25 - Oct 31 with 3032 views | jasondozzell |
Going in the right direction and pleased GON is persevering with him |  | | |  |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:22 - Oct 31 with 735 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:16 - Oct 31 by jasondozzell |
Watch the first goal for a start |
JD
Watching the goal again. What is his input? |  |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 22:28 - Oct 31 with 705 views | Blue_Heath |
Were you there, did the odd thing but he certainly did not affect the game other than leaving Leif exposed. |  |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 22:54 - Oct 31 with 673 views | DJR |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:16 - Oct 31 by jasondozzell |
Watch the first goal for a start |
He also had a hand in the chance that Emmerson had early in the second half but more generally I think he linked up well with others, and I am sure that O'Neil will have been pleased with what he did given he was part of the team that played so well in the first half. [Post edited 31 Oct 22:56]
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| Jaden affected the game today on 22:56 - Oct 31 with 665 views | jasondozzell |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:22 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue |
JD
Watching the goal again. What is his input? |
It's his bit of skill to beat his man that breaks lines for first part of the move. He beats his man and that's what gives us the chance eventually. | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:57 - Oct 31 with 664 views | jasondozzell |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:28 - Oct 31 by Blue_Heath |
Were you there, did the odd thing but he certainly did not affect the game other than leaving Leif exposed. |
Yes was there.
First goal comes from him beating his man. | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:58 - Oct 31 with 657 views | jasondozzell |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:54 - Oct 31 by DJR |
He also had a hand in the chance that Emmerson had early in the second half but more generally I think he linked up well with others, and I am sure that O'Neil will have been pleased with what he did given he was part of the team that played so well in the first half. [Post edited 31 Oct 22:56]
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Agreed. Nice little understanding emerging between him and Emersonn. Jaden is a confidence player and I thought you could see it coming back today. [Post edited 31 Oct 22:59]
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| Jaden affected the game today on 06:11 - Nov 1 with 537 views | coote |
| Jaden affected the game today on 22:58 - Oct 31 by jasondozzell |
Agreed. Nice little understanding emerging between him and Emersonn. Jaden is a confidence player and I thought you could see it coming back today. [Post edited 31 Oct 22:59]
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Coming back from what???
He was not great last season(cut in shoot is all he has in his locker)
He just isn’t good enough for top flight football.
The debate is boring now. |  | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 07:32 - Nov 1 with 498 views | MK1 |
Top half Championship player at best.
Sorry but I don't see how anyone can say that he is improving. |  |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 09:20 - Nov 1 with 436 views | coote |
| Jaden affected the game today on 07:32 - Nov 1 by MK1 |
Top half Championship player at best.
Sorry but I don't see how anyone can say that he is improving. |
Agreed. | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 09:28 - Nov 1 with 426 views | jasondozzell |
| Jaden affected the game today on 07:32 - Nov 1 by MK1 |
Top half Championship player at best.
Sorry but I don't see how anyone can say that he is improving. |
Did you watch the first goal? | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 09:41 - Nov 1 with 402 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 09:28 - Nov 1 by jasondozzell |
Did you watch the first goal? |
You keep referring it to it. He had space to run past a player and then passed the ball
The way you make it sound is if he was a big part in the goal. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 10:37 - Nov 1 with 376 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Jaden affected the game today on 06:11 - Nov 1 by coote |
Coming back from what???
He was not great last season(cut in shoot is all he has in his locker)
He just isn’t good enough for top flight football.
The debate is boring now. |
He had no pre-season coming off an injury. Not hard to understand.
"He was not great last season" - he was one of our best players without a shadow of a doubt.
I don't even know why there is a debate. He's just getting pelters from people who have it in for him. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 10:41 - Nov 1 with 370 views | jasondozzell |
| Jaden affected the game today on 09:41 - Nov 1 by FrimleyBlue |
You keep referring it to it. He had space to run past a player and then passed the ball
The way you make it sound is if he was a big part in the goal. |
You're not watching the move from early enough.
Look at how he creates the space by beating his man. | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 11:35 - Nov 1 with 340 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 10:41 - Nov 1 by jasondozzell |
You're not watching the move from early enough.
Look at how he creates the space by beating his man. |
A bit irrelevant to the goal though as the ball subsequently went back in front of their lines. Although yes, he got us up the pitch and that move did set them back. I’m not criticising him though; I wasn’t there to see. |  |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 11:38 - Nov 1 with 338 views | SomethingBlue |
I thought he did well enough and, certainly in his defensive work, you could see why O'Neil started him.
One moment in the first half when Jaden tracked back towards our corner flag, won possession back and passed upfield – simultaneously the guy behind me smacks his lips together: "Look at him, doesn't give a sh7t does he".
People will see what they want to ... | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 11:47 - Nov 1 with 326 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 10:41 - Nov 1 by jasondozzell |
You're not watching the move from early enough.
Look at how he creates the space by beating his man. |
Bur he didnt end up creating from it. It ended up being slowed down and passed and that was the end of his transition.
Its like saying had a had a hand in our goal as he at one point passed it. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 11:59 - Nov 1 with 315 views | Dubtractor |
| Jaden affected the game today on 11:38 - Nov 1 by SomethingBlue |
I thought he did well enough and, certainly in his defensive work, you could see why O'Neil started him.
One moment in the first half when Jaden tracked back towards our corner flag, won possession back and passed upfield – simultaneously the guy behind me smacks his lips together: "Look at him, doesn't give a sh7t does he".
People will see what they want to ... |
Yep. Pretty clear that he will never win over some in our support.
He was fine yesterday, not amazing, but a perfectly decent contribution with and without the ball. |  |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 12:10 - Nov 1 with 280 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 11:59 - Nov 1 by Dubtractor |
Yep. Pretty clear that he will never win over some in our support.
He was fine yesterday, not amazing, but a perfectly decent contribution with and without the ball. |
0 chances created in a side that had 77% possession first half
Thata not decent contribution.
I wont ever bemoan his off the ball work. For me hes one of the best for it. But with the ball he struggles as this level. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 12:17 - Nov 1 with 248 views | Dubtractor |
| Jaden affected the game today on 12:10 - Nov 1 by FrimleyBlue |
0 chances created in a side that had 77% possession first half
Thata not decent contribution.
I wont ever bemoan his off the ball work. For me hes one of the best for it. But with the ball he struggles as this level. |
Explain why Philogene has got pelters, whilst Fatawu (who's stats are pretty much identical to Philogene) gets little or no criticism?
Fatawu also made very little impact last week either.
To be clear, I don't think either warrant pelters as both put in a shift yesterday, but one of them is seemingly a player lots are keen to see out of the picture whereas the other doesn't seem to have warranted much comment. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 12:22 - Nov 1 with 227 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 12:17 - Nov 1 by Dubtractor |
Explain why Philogene has got pelters, whilst Fatawu (who's stats are pretty much identical to Philogene) gets little or no criticism?
Fatawu also made very little impact last week either.
To be clear, I don't think either warrant pelters as both put in a shift yesterday, but one of them is seemingly a player lots are keen to see out of the picture whereas the other doesn't seem to have warranted much comment. |
Fats has had his mentions. He is hot and cold. I do feel maeda is the better rw option. I dont rate our flank choices but you cant have it all in one window. Think with fatawu we have seen a mix of things from him. With Jaden its pretty standard stuff. Slow the play. Drop shoulder come inside recycle. With fatawu we have seen the inside and outside runs. Altho for some reason he has stopped the outside runs.
I think Jaden maybe gets more comments for a mix of reasons.
Him starting means Clarke doesnt.. at least clarke mixes things up
The whole summer agent thing
The whole agent thing before joining. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 12:54 - Nov 1 with 184 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Jaden affected the game today on 12:22 - Nov 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Fats has had his mentions. He is hot and cold. I do feel maeda is the better rw option. I dont rate our flank choices but you cant have it all in one window. Think with fatawu we have seen a mix of things from him. With Jaden its pretty standard stuff. Slow the play. Drop shoulder come inside recycle. With fatawu we have seen the inside and outside runs. Altho for some reason he has stopped the outside runs.
I think Jaden maybe gets more comments for a mix of reasons.
Him starting means Clarke doesnt.. at least clarke mixes things up
The whole summer agent thing
The whole agent thing before joining. |
All the reasons you list for the Jaden comments are nothing to do with his performance or that he can effect. The fact managers consistently believe Jaden is better than Clarke but Frimley knows best is so silly. As is not being able to get past the agent stuff. Just support your players. Your form for wide player criticism isn't great.
Think you just expect them to beat there man every time and not make any mistakes when trying higher risk/higher reward things. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 13:07 - Nov 1 with 167 views | Xatticus |
| Jaden affected the game today on 11:35 - Nov 1 by Swansea_Blue |
A bit irrelevant to the goal though as the ball subsequently went back in front of their lines. Although yes, he got us up the pitch and that move did set them back. I’m not criticising him though; I wasn’t there to see. |
We dominated possession up to that point, but had made no inroads to creating a goal-scoring opportunity. Hull couldn't touch the ball, but they were also preventing us from generating a threat. He set that move up and then made the run that finally unlocked their defense. | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 13:16 - Nov 1 with 145 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 12:54 - Nov 1 by Nutkins_Return |
All the reasons you list for the Jaden comments are nothing to do with his performance or that he can effect. The fact managers consistently believe Jaden is better than Clarke but Frimley knows best is so silly. As is not being able to get past the agent stuff. Just support your players. Your form for wide player criticism isn't great.
Think you just expect them to beat there man every time and not make any mistakes when trying higher risk/higher reward things. |
Why you turned it into frimley knows best. The forun is full of other posters who wasnt happy that he was picked again yesturday and posters who didnt rate him yesturday.
My expectation. Actually no. My preference is for wingers to vary what they do. Inside and outside runs. Play others in etc like weve seen clarke too.
The list i gave is why some not myself may give jaden a harder time than others.
My view on him is simply hes too one dimensional for the prem. I think thats an ok opinion to have. I rate his work ethic. He chases. Doesnt give in which cant imo be said for clarke sometimes tbh. Which is prob why managers prefer to use clarke off the bench.
So no not frimley knows best. Just one poster of many with own view on the situation. | |
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| Jaden affected the game today on 13:17 - Nov 1 with 143 views | mellowblue |
| Jaden affected the game today on 12:17 - Nov 1 by Dubtractor |
Explain why Philogene has got pelters, whilst Fatawu (who's stats are pretty much identical to Philogene) gets little or no criticism?
Fatawu also made very little impact last week either.
To be clear, I don't think either warrant pelters as both put in a shift yesterday, but one of them is seemingly a player lots are keen to see out of the picture whereas the other doesn't seem to have warranted much comment. |
I think Fatawu is getting the benefit of the doubt, being a newbie. It is easier to pick on the old lags. Fatawu looks to be becoming one of these stereotypical all the speed but no end product wingers. Game needs to improve. Too predictable and easy to suss. Nevertheless overall our right side is working better than our left. Seems more cohesion there. | | | |
| Jaden affected the game today on 13:57 - Nov 1 with 107 views | MK1 |
| Jaden affected the game today on 09:28 - Nov 1 by jasondozzell |
Did you watch the first goal? |
He passed the ball 10 yards, so what. | |
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