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Is this going too far? 13:17 - May 31 with 5219 viewsStokieBlue

So they certainly have some valid points but is closing Heathrow for 10 days in July an acceptable protest?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48470623

It's literally blackmail but is that justified?

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Is this going to far? on 13:18 - May 31 with 2124 viewsHolyGoalie

I fly out in August, so as long as they're done by then fight the good fight I say.

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Is this going to far? on 13:21 - May 31 with 2121 viewslowhouseblue

Is this going to far? on 13:18 - May 31 by HolyGoalie

I fly out in August, so as long as they're done by then fight the good fight I say.


and in that context here's something for footy fans to be proud of:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48470944

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Is this going to far? on 13:21 - May 31 with 2122 viewspickles110564

They believe they are saving the planet, no one is listening, look how many flights are booked from this country for the Champion League Final.
Why did they not just use Wembly instead?
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Is this going to far? on 13:23 - May 31 with 2104 viewsIllinoisblue

no, it's not acceptable and the organisers should be arrested and charged with threats to commit terrorism.

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Is this going to far? on 13:24 - May 31 with 2088 viewspickles110564

Is this going to far? on 13:23 - May 31 by Illinoisblue

no, it's not acceptable and the organisers should be arrested and charged with threats to commit terrorism.


That's just a tad extreme?
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Is this going to far? on 13:25 - May 31 with 2081 viewsHolyGoalie

Is this going to far? on 13:24 - May 31 by pickles110564

That's just a tad extreme?


terrorism usually is, yup

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Is this going to far? on 13:28 - May 31 with 2053 viewsStokieBlue

Is this going to far? on 13:21 - May 31 by lowhouseblue

and in that context here's something for footy fans to be proud of:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48470944


Surely UEFA should be the ones on the hook here. Fans are always going to travel to a final regardless of location but with two all-English finals they could have decided to move them both to Wembley and claimed some environmental moral high ground.

Of course that would mean they didn't get the bucket loads of cash from said cities.

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Is this going to far? on 13:29 - May 31 with 2043 viewshomer_123

Quite possibly too little too late anyway.

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Is this going to far? on 13:31 - May 31 with 2032 viewsRyorry

As I've said before about their previous protest, I think it'll alienate more people (esp those who've booked early for weddings & other key family events etc.) than it encourages to join their cause.

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Is this going to far? on 13:33 - May 31 with 2015 viewshomer_123

Is this going to far? on 13:28 - May 31 by StokieBlue

Surely UEFA should be the ones on the hook here. Fans are always going to travel to a final regardless of location but with two all-English finals they could have decided to move them both to Wembley and claimed some environmental moral high ground.

Of course that would mean they didn't get the bucket loads of cash from said cities.

SB


UEFA and moral high ground in the same paragraph?

Does not compute.

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Is this going to far? on 13:35 - May 31 with 1998 viewsFtnfwest

they could just fly one across the path of Emma Thompson's weekly flight
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Is this going to far? on 13:37 - May 31 with 1983 viewsbraveblue

Full time protestors. Find and arrest them. They should try democratic means and try a country that is doing nothing about it.
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"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:44 - May 31 with 1966 viewsDyland

Is this going to far? on 13:37 - May 31 by braveblue

Full time protestors. Find and arrest them. They should try democratic means and try a country that is doing nothing about it.


Bit of whataboutery there Bravers. This threat is specifically about the expansion of Heathrow airport.

I don't disagree with the sentiment though, but as Pickers says in this thread direct action is probably the best way to get the authorities to listen. Otherwise it doesn't stand a chance.

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"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:48 - May 31 with 1945 viewsStokieBlue

"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:44 - May 31 by Dyland

Bit of whataboutery there Bravers. This threat is specifically about the expansion of Heathrow airport.

I don't disagree with the sentiment though, but as Pickers says in this thread direct action is probably the best way to get the authorities to listen. Otherwise it doesn't stand a chance.


The trouble is if the government changes it's policy due to blackmail what's stopping some far more unsavoury element without a good point closing the airport until some bizarre demand is met?

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"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:49 - May 31 with 1939 viewsSpruceMoose

"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:48 - May 31 by StokieBlue

The trouble is if the government changes it's policy due to blackmail what's stopping some far more unsavoury element without a good point closing the airport until some bizarre demand is met?

SB


I'll be targeting Happy Shopper with drones until the Wagon Wheel returns to the correct size.

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Is this going to far? on 13:50 - May 31 with 1935 viewsWeWereZombies

Tsk, 'too' not 'to'. Unless you mean the Champions League final should be relocated to a Scottish township just off the A9 (but that's 'Farr' not 'Far').

As an aside, I read about in the latest John Muir Trust newsletter something I thought would never look likely to happen, a renewables powered aircraft:

https://avinor.no/en/aviation/news/first-electric-aircraft/

Tackling habitat loss of species other than human beings can be a different and sometimes conflicting activity to responding to climate change but it is encouraging to see technology that can do at least one of these things.

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"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:51 - May 31 with 1933 viewsDyland

"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:48 - May 31 by StokieBlue

The trouble is if the government changes it's policy due to blackmail what's stopping some far more unsavoury element without a good point closing the airport until some bizarre demand is met?

SB


Ah, but I didn't say the government should cave into ER's demands ;)

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"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:53 - May 31 with 1925 viewsfooters

"try a country that is doing nothing about it" on 13:44 - May 31 by Dyland

Bit of whataboutery there Bravers. This threat is specifically about the expansion of Heathrow airport.

I don't disagree with the sentiment though, but as Pickers says in this thread direct action is probably the best way to get the authorities to listen. Otherwise it doesn't stand a chance.


Well, Mrs May received a very strong letter from a lot of UK business leaders earlier demanding that she take climate action now, and commit to some pretty ambitious targets. The government says it is 'on the path' to doing something- what does that mean? How much more encouragement do they need if that's not enough?

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Is this going to far? on 13:54 - May 31 with 1910 viewspickles110564

Is this going to far? on 13:37 - May 31 by braveblue

Full time protestors. Find and arrest them. They should try democratic means and try a country that is doing nothing about it.


Sorry but democratic means does not work anymore in this country.
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Is this going to far? on 13:55 - May 31 with 1901 viewsSpruceMoose

Is this going to far? on 13:54 - May 31 by pickles110564

Sorry but democratic means does not work anymore in this country.


You're talking about Brexit here aren't you?

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Is this going to far? on 13:56 - May 31 with 1895 viewspickles110564

Is this going to far? on 13:55 - May 31 by SpruceMoose

You're talking about Brexit here aren't you?


Cant see your response as I have you on ignore.
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Is this going to far? on 13:57 - May 31 with 1894 viewsBloomBlue

If they also accept the internet is switched off for those same 10 days then that's fine.

Note: I assume those of us travelling first class will be exempt from the 10 day clousure.
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Is this going to far? on 14:01 - May 31 with 1881 viewsGeoffSentence

Is this going to far? on 13:23 - May 31 by Illinoisblue

no, it's not acceptable and the organisers should be arrested and charged with threats to commit terrorism.


And this, my friends, is exactly why you need to be so careful of legislation like RIPA. Someone, somewhere will always want to extend its reach.

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Is this going to far? on 14:01 - May 31 with 1880 viewsSpruceMoose

Is this going to far? on 13:56 - May 31 by pickles110564

Cant see your response as I have you on ignore.


Not surprised you didn't want to see my response to you accusing me of lying about my father's death, or the response to when you accused me of abandoning my brother afterwards!

I hope ignore mode brings you some peace, Branston.

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Is this going to far? on 14:01 - May 31 with 1878 viewsfooters

Is this going to far? on 13:57 - May 31 by BloomBlue

If they also accept the internet is switched off for those same 10 days then that's fine.

Note: I assume those of us travelling first class will be exempt from the 10 day clousure.


That's an awful lot of stamps.

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