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If you vote Labour and things don't turn out how you want them to, you have the chance to rectify it in 5 years. Corbyn himself may not even last a full term.
If you vote Tories where there's no guarantee a No Deal Brexit won't happen (given the rampant dislike of Boris' deal by a large number of the party), then you're stuck with an economic disaster for many years, and won't be able to change it any time soon.
Personally, I think the Tory cuts over the last nine years which have devastated lives need to be reversed and could never trust them to deliver on that. I believe Labour will help rebuild a fairer society and put an end to the poisonous Brexit debate by letting the people, who are now much more informed, have a final say.
I’ve tried to reign in my labour bias but I hope it helps you.
Everyone should vote for real change, not just a switch between blue and red... vote anyone but Conservative or Labour... well anyone other than racist right wing parties.
Have you got a Socialist Workers Party Candidate in Ipswich?
I used to be a conservative voter. But bladdering my children with c£58k of Uni Fees saw me look elsewhere. Mys son was in the first year of the £9k fees. Screwed for having the audacity to be born in 1994! The Tory ideal is that the middle income people are important to them. But in reality we are the mice on the wheel that keep on being fleeced and ripped off while the top earners get all the breaks. I would genuinely happily pay an additional 2-3% in income tax for a top educational system , super NHS and see growth in industry throughout the UK not just the South and see hard working people rewarded with a good standard of living to boot.
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Who should I vote for and why... on 17:06 - Dec 12 with 1768 views
Who should I vote for and why... on 17:04 - Dec 12 by peterleeblue
I used to be a conservative voter. But bladdering my children with c£58k of Uni Fees saw me look elsewhere. Mys son was in the first year of the £9k fees. Screwed for having the audacity to be born in 1994! The Tory ideal is that the middle income people are important to them. But in reality we are the mice on the wheel that keep on being fleeced and ripped off while the top earners get all the breaks. I would genuinely happily pay an additional 2-3% in income tax for a top educational system , super NHS and see growth in industry throughout the UK not just the South and see hard working people rewarded with a good standard of living to boot.
If you are happy to pay that extra income tax for services, why arent you happy for your children pay extra in their tax for their own education? Since that is how Uni fees work now.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Who should I vote for and why... on 16:53 - Dec 12 by Wacko
If you vote Labour and things don't turn out how you want them to, you have the chance to rectify it in 5 years. Corbyn himself may not even last a full term.
If you vote Tories where there's no guarantee a No Deal Brexit won't happen (given the rampant dislike of Boris' deal by a large number of the party), then you're stuck with an economic disaster for many years, and won't be able to change it any time soon.
Do you think you will be able to rectify the damage Corbyn will do to our economy by a change of govt in 5 years?
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Who should I vote for and why... on 18:17 - Dec 12 with 1619 views
Vote for your son. With credit to ABB, Dolly and WeWereZombies:
Since 2010
1,000 sure start centres closed. 780 libraries closed. 700 football pitches closed. Food bank use up 2,400%. Homelessness up 1,000%. Rough sleeping up 1,200% Bedroom tax caused mass evictions. Evictions are running at record highs. 35% of U.K. kids live in poverty. Student fees up 300%. Student debt has risen 150%. Eradication of EMA (education maintenance allowance). National debt has risen from £850billion to £2.25trillion. Emergency Brexit stimulus from BoE in June 2016 of £175b. Brexit related fall in national revenue £500b. GDP fallen to -0.1%. GBP fallen by circa 15% versus EUR and USD. Manufacturing in recession. Construction in recession. Services close to recession. 25-30% cuts to all govt departments. 25-30% cuts to all councils, mainly centred on Labour councils. Half of councils facing effective bankruptcy. 185k extra deaths attached to the political ideology of austerity. 25,000 less police. 20,000 less prison officers. 10,000 less border officials. 10,000 less firefighters. 10,000 less medical professionals. 25,000 less bed spaces for people suffering mental illness. OECD calculate 3 million hidden unemployed, rate is really 13%. Creation of 1.3m jobs, mainly temporary, self employed, gig economy and ZHC. Only 30k full time work positions created. Close on 50% of workers are self employed, ZHC, or part time precariat. 80% of the 5.3 million self employed live below the poverty line. 35% of self employed only earn £100 a month. 25% cuts for our disabled community. 80% cuts to Mobility Allowance. Closing Remploy. 40% of working households have practically no savings. 70% of households have less than 10k savings. 60% of households can only survive 2 months without a wage. Household debt reaches a new peak, despite emergency base rates. Increase of 50% in hate crimes. Increase of knife crime by 150% to 22,000 per year. Increase in teenage suicide by 70%. Suicide up 12% in the year 2018. Self-harm among young women up 70%. Life expectancy down 3 years. NHS satisfaction level at lowest recorded rate. Council home building down 90%. 200k social homes lost since 2010. Zero starter homes built, despite Tory flagship programme. Council home building down 90%. 200k social homes lost since 2010. One million families on council home waiting list. 100,000 increase on the council home waiting list since 2010. 36,000 teachers have left the profession. Six form funding cut by 25%. 33,000 nurses leave the NHS each year
Who should I vote for and why... on 17:04 - Dec 12 by peterleeblue
I used to be a conservative voter. But bladdering my children with c£58k of Uni Fees saw me look elsewhere. Mys son was in the first year of the £9k fees. Screwed for having the audacity to be born in 1994! The Tory ideal is that the middle income people are important to them. But in reality we are the mice on the wheel that keep on being fleeced and ripped off while the top earners get all the breaks. I would genuinely happily pay an additional 2-3% in income tax for a top educational system , super NHS and see growth in industry throughout the UK not just the South and see hard working people rewarded with a good standard of living to boot.
would you i doubt it if it actually happened if you can afford to pay 2-3% extra you can afford private health insurance.
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Who should I vote for and why... on 18:20 - Dec 12 with 1604 views
Who should I vote for and why... on 18:16 - Dec 12 by londontractorboy57
Do you think you will be able to rectify the damage Corbyn will do to our economy by a change of govt in 5 years?
Yes. Because he won't damage the economy.
He has some socialist-minded policies, but they're no more radical than countries in Europe, whose economies aren't failing:
- Labour's top rate tax will be 50%, that's only 5% more than Germany, and 20% less than Denmark
- Corporation tax will rise to 26% - less than France, Germany, Italy, a little bit more than Netherlands and Denmark, only 4% above the European average
- Spain, Italy, Germany, France all have nationalised train services (last time I checked it was about €3 to get to the centre of Berlin from the airport)
- Denmark offers paid university education for 6 years to all EU students - as in, not just free, but students get around €820 allowance per month
Who should I vote for and why... on 17:36 - Dec 12 by chicoazul
If you are happy to pay that extra income tax for services, why arent you happy for your children pay extra in their tax for their own education? Since that is how Uni fees work now.
Because finding £58k over 5 years was nigh on impossible. Paying a a bit extra tax is not missed.
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Who should I vote for and why... on 18:48 - Dec 12 with 1519 views
Who should I vote for and why... on 18:17 - Dec 12 by J2BLUE
Vote for your son. With credit to ABB, Dolly and WeWereZombies:
Since 2010
1,000 sure start centres closed. 780 libraries closed. 700 football pitches closed. Food bank use up 2,400%. Homelessness up 1,000%. Rough sleeping up 1,200% Bedroom tax caused mass evictions. Evictions are running at record highs. 35% of U.K. kids live in poverty. Student fees up 300%. Student debt has risen 150%. Eradication of EMA (education maintenance allowance). National debt has risen from £850billion to £2.25trillion. Emergency Brexit stimulus from BoE in June 2016 of £175b. Brexit related fall in national revenue £500b. GDP fallen to -0.1%. GBP fallen by circa 15% versus EUR and USD. Manufacturing in recession. Construction in recession. Services close to recession. 25-30% cuts to all govt departments. 25-30% cuts to all councils, mainly centred on Labour councils. Half of councils facing effective bankruptcy. 185k extra deaths attached to the political ideology of austerity. 25,000 less police. 20,000 less prison officers. 10,000 less border officials. 10,000 less firefighters. 10,000 less medical professionals. 25,000 less bed spaces for people suffering mental illness. OECD calculate 3 million hidden unemployed, rate is really 13%. Creation of 1.3m jobs, mainly temporary, self employed, gig economy and ZHC. Only 30k full time work positions created. Close on 50% of workers are self employed, ZHC, or part time precariat. 80% of the 5.3 million self employed live below the poverty line. 35% of self employed only earn £100 a month. 25% cuts for our disabled community. 80% cuts to Mobility Allowance. Closing Remploy. 40% of working households have practically no savings. 70% of households have less than 10k savings. 60% of households can only survive 2 months without a wage. Household debt reaches a new peak, despite emergency base rates. Increase of 50% in hate crimes. Increase of knife crime by 150% to 22,000 per year. Increase in teenage suicide by 70%. Suicide up 12% in the year 2018. Self-harm among young women up 70%. Life expectancy down 3 years. NHS satisfaction level at lowest recorded rate. Council home building down 90%. 200k social homes lost since 2010. Zero starter homes built, despite Tory flagship programme. Council home building down 90%. 200k social homes lost since 2010. One million families on council home waiting list. 100,000 increase on the council home waiting list since 2010. 36,000 teachers have left the profession. Six form funding cut by 25%. 33,000 nurses leave the NHS each year
I saw that list last week and although some may be correct, the 35% of self employed earn less than £100 per month in my view is wrong and extreme.
I do accounts and tax returns for the self employed and I can confidently say that nowhere near 35% of our self employed clients earn that little.
Whilst voting the lady behind the table said “we’ve just hit 50%” assume she meant turnout for that particular polling station, in the Kingfisher pub, to which another lady gasped a “wow”. So must be a good turn out...
Who should I vote for and why... on 19:09 - Dec 12 by SitfcB
Well just voted.
Whilst voting the lady behind the table said “we’ve just hit 50%” assume she meant turnout for that particular polling station, in the Kingfisher pub, to which another lady gasped a “wow”. So must be a good turn out...
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50% with three hours to go on a dark, cold and wet night? Not great.
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