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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) 09:03 - Feb 26 with 4042 viewsmonytowbray


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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:05 - Feb 26 with 2259 viewsGeoffSentence

Why's that?

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:06 - Feb 26 with 2242 viewsclive_baker

The same can be said for a lot of brands, why is it Canada goose that always gets attacked? My office is near one of their stores and I always see protests outside on regent street. Like some student working in the store is in a position to do anything about it.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:08 - Feb 26 with 2230 viewssolemio

Canada Geese need culling - or sending back to Canada.
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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:11 - Feb 26 with 2202 viewsazuremerlangus

Or leather...

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:12 - Feb 26 with 2202 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:05 - Feb 26 by GeoffSentence

Why's that?


https://www.peta.org.uk/action/spread-word-canada-goose-cruelty/

(Not a fan of PETA and their EDGELORD angles in general, nor are most people who support animal rights, but often their content is pretty on the money)

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:13 - Feb 26 with 2195 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:11 - Feb 26 by azuremerlangus

Or leather...


Leather, although I don't agree with it, is at least a byproduct. Trapping coyotes in inhumane traps and tearing the feathers out of geese is nothing more than outright sadistic for the sake of fashion/comfort.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:14 - Feb 26 with 2185 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:06 - Feb 26 by clive_baker

The same can be said for a lot of brands, why is it Canada goose that always gets attacked? My office is near one of their stores and I always see protests outside on regent street. Like some student working in the store is in a position to do anything about it.


Awareness is one hell of a thing though. If they stop customers making a poor purchase choice they've done something.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:16 - Feb 26 with 2168 viewsclive_baker

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:14 - Feb 26 by monytowbray

Awareness is one hell of a thing though. If they stop customers making a poor purchase choice they've done something.


Fair point, I just think it’s misguided. Take it up with the decision makers. Do it once or twice but I’m not exaggerating when I say they’ve been there weekly for the past 3 years or more.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:18 - Feb 26 with 2153 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:16 - Feb 26 by clive_baker

Fair point, I just think it’s misguided. Take it up with the decision makers. Do it once or twice but I’m not exaggerating when I say they’ve been there weekly for the past 3 years or more.


Why do you feel it's misguided? Surely protesting is everyone's right and puts pressure on those who can change things to do exactly that. Living in a world where money dominates everything I feel giving CG bad press is exactly what needs to be done.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:18 - Feb 26 with 2150 viewswrightsrightglove

Hadn't heard about this until now. Weirdly I think me, and probably others, assume that retailers charging ridiculous prices would have enough of a profit margin to act ethically when it comes to things like this. Clearly not!
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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:18 - Feb 26 with 2148 viewsBackToRussia

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:16 - Feb 26 by clive_baker

Fair point, I just think it’s misguided. Take it up with the decision makers. Do it once or twice but I’m not exaggerating when I say they’ve been there weekly for the past 3 years or more.


Why not be frustrated at canada goose rather than the protestors? They wouldn't have to be there if they weren't treating animals Inhumanely.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:19 - Feb 26 with 2141 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:18 - Feb 26 by wrightsrightglove

Hadn't heard about this until now. Weirdly I think me, and probably others, assume that retailers charging ridiculous prices would have enough of a profit margin to act ethically when it comes to things like this. Clearly not!


I'm not sure there's a cost affective or ethical way to obtain goose feathers to the scale they require.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:26 - Feb 26 with 2118 viewsStokieBlue

I didn't know that their coats weren't using synthetic materials although it's not something I've ever really thought about. Seems unnecessary for a mass produced and global brand to be using the materials you highlight.

On a broader angle, do you think it's always wrong for humans to wear fur or in some places (I am thinking Siberia or Inuit communities) is it acceptable?

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:29 - Feb 26 with 2100 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:26 - Feb 26 by StokieBlue

I didn't know that their coats weren't using synthetic materials although it's not something I've ever really thought about. Seems unnecessary for a mass produced and global brand to be using the materials you highlight.

On a broader angle, do you think it's always wrong for humans to wear fur or in some places (I am thinking Siberia or Inuit communities) is it acceptable?

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In more rural communities where it is essential I have no issue, but again these groups are usually using the fur again as a byproduct of food.

Sadly for most of the world animal products are little more than a profit-motivated conveyer belt of torture.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:36 - Feb 26 with 2079 viewsclive_baker

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:18 - Feb 26 by BackToRussia

Why not be frustrated at canada goose rather than the protestors? They wouldn't have to be there if they weren't treating animals Inhumanely.


I am, nor would I ever buy any of their products. The protests are often over the top and cross a line for me, I've seen staff leave the store visibly upset, I’ve seen police presence, and ultimately it doesn’t look to be making a difference. It should be law makers put under pressure to prevent companies (not just CG) from using such materials and practices. That’s the only way they will stop as evidently there’s demand for their products.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:46 - Feb 26 with 2058 viewsBackToRussia

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:36 - Feb 26 by clive_baker

I am, nor would I ever buy any of their products. The protests are often over the top and cross a line for me, I've seen staff leave the store visibly upset, I’ve seen police presence, and ultimately it doesn’t look to be making a difference. It should be law makers put under pressure to prevent companies (not just CG) from using such materials and practices. That’s the only way they will stop as evidently there’s demand for their products.


The thing about protests is that no one gives a sh1t unless they are disruptive. You're imagining that this is all they've done.

There are daily protests in Whitehall that are simply ignored because why would you change your mind just because some numpties are waving placards outside your office.

Stuff like this gets people talking and it is only really the threat that people will just stop buying their sh1t that gets companies to act.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:50 - Feb 26 with 2037 viewsitfcjoe

I presume most people I see are wearing fakes anyway

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:50 - Feb 26 with 2036 viewsclive_baker

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:46 - Feb 26 by BackToRussia

The thing about protests is that no one gives a sh1t unless they are disruptive. You're imagining that this is all they've done.

There are daily protests in Whitehall that are simply ignored because why would you change your mind just because some numpties are waving placards outside your office.

Stuff like this gets people talking and it is only really the threat that people will just stop buying their sh1t that gets companies to act.


The issue for me is you need to cut it off at the source. Canada Goose are probably the most high profile of these companies but there are a number of others. If you finish off one, another will pop up. I don't dispute that the protests are perhaps effective at changing consumer thinking, and that's the bigger win really. They're visible, and if 1 person walks past and away thinking 'I didn't realise they did that, I won't shop there' then they've served a purpose. I just hope there's pressure on the law makers too, because they have the power to influence these business practices.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 10:14 - Feb 26 with 1978 viewsBackToRussia

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:50 - Feb 26 by clive_baker

The issue for me is you need to cut it off at the source. Canada Goose are probably the most high profile of these companies but there are a number of others. If you finish off one, another will pop up. I don't dispute that the protests are perhaps effective at changing consumer thinking, and that's the bigger win really. They're visible, and if 1 person walks past and away thinking 'I didn't realise they did that, I won't shop there' then they've served a purpose. I just hope there's pressure on the law makers too, because they have the power to influence these business practices.


Unfortunately it is more likely that law makers are on the side of whatever profit making industry is lobbying them/paying them.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 10:33 - Feb 26 with 1950 viewsmonytowbray

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 10:14 - Feb 26 by BackToRussia

Unfortunately it is more likely that law makers are on the side of whatever profit making industry is lobbying them/paying them.


This. The older I get the more I see the law as a way of protecting those with enough money to get away with exploitation than a code of moral conduct that is punishable for breaking.

Plain clothed police officers assisting ticket assistants on trains with fines is always a fun one. Literally being paid by the government to enforce contractual agreements for a private company. I thought their job was to keep people safe.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:14 - Feb 26 with 1794 viewsazuremerlangus

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 09:13 - Feb 26 by monytowbray

Leather, although I don't agree with it, is at least a byproduct. Trapping coyotes in inhumane traps and tearing the feathers out of geese is nothing more than outright sadistic for the sake of fashion/comfort.


Surely feathers are a byproduct of goose meat?

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:25 - Feb 26 with 1769 viewsIHENNERSI

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:14 - Feb 26 by azuremerlangus

Surely feathers are a byproduct of goose meat?


They are, and it’s also a stupid argument as synthetic down is made from plastic! so you’d be trading a natural sustainable product for something created from fossil fuels.
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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:33 - Feb 26 with 1745 viewsazuremerlangus

If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:25 - Feb 26 by IHENNERSI

They are, and it’s also a stupid argument as synthetic down is made from plastic! so you’d be trading a natural sustainable product for something created from fossil fuels.


We used to be very efficient in the past; a chicken was used for eggs (and fed left-overs), then dispatched for food and feathers, the cooked leftovers were then used for stock/soup. Even the old rooster cock was eaten via "Coq a vin" make sure it was tender to eat.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:14 - Feb 26 by azuremerlangus

Surely feathers are a byproduct of goose meat?


The website says that this is the case.

I won't post the link as underneath it goes into another section on ethical hunting methods for the fur, which is a 10 pager waiting to happen.

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If you wear a Canada Goose coat you may as well be wearing fur (n/t) on 14:14 - Feb 26 by azuremerlangus

Surely feathers are a byproduct of goose meat?


I'm completely in favour of eating more geese. This sounds like a worthy (and fattening) cause.

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