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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense 11:26 - Mar 4 with 3643 viewsJakeITFC

Which are words I didn’t think I’d ever say.

We could certainly do a lot worse.
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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:28 - Mar 4 with 2789 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Always seems to be the way that after we get beaten, there is a clamour to sign the opposing manager.

I don't mind Barton, but his credentials aren't even as strong as Hursts were when we appointed him.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:29 - Mar 4 with 2781 viewsWarkTheWarkITFC

I'm finding it all funny today. At some point it'll turn to anger.

But for now we are a team that has lost 6 out of 8, to go from top of the league, to no chance of making the playoffs in a month, following a 1-0 home defeat to a team that I saw draw Leiston in the FA Cup not so long ago, managed by Joey Barton and backed by 88 fans, there to see the winner scored by Ched Evans.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:31 - Mar 4 with 2766 viewsTheTrueBlue1878

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:28 - Mar 4 by Marshalls_Mullet

Always seems to be the way that after we get beaten, there is a clamour to sign the opposing manager.

I don't mind Barton, but his credentials aren't even as strong as Hursts were when we appointed him.


When does credentials get in the way of ME thinking.

He signed Lambert off the back of 2 relegation's at his last 4 clubs. 3 out of 5 now.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:32 - Mar 4 with 2753 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:31 - Mar 4 by TheTrueBlue1878

When does credentials get in the way of ME thinking.

He signed Lambert off the back of 2 relegation's at his last 4 clubs. 3 out of 5 now.


Touche.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:32 - Mar 4 with 2734 viewsJakeITFC

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:28 - Mar 4 by Marshalls_Mullet

Always seems to be the way that after we get beaten, there is a clamour to sign the opposing manager.

I don't mind Barton, but his credentials aren't even as strong as Hursts were when we appointed him.


Plays better football than Hurst, has signed better players than Hurst and has a personality.
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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:35 - Mar 4 with 2718 viewsWarkTheWarkITFC

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:32 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC

Plays better football than Hurst, has signed better players than Hurst and has a personality.


Barton has always been an articulate, decent thinker that just seems to turn into a complete nutjob in the heat of a football match, more so when playing.

No doubt management has mellowed him. He's always had a brain which is why some of the incidents he's been involved in have been even stranger.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:37 - Mar 4 with 2697 viewsSwansea_Blue

I do like how he's admitted his comments about us having our worst ever squad was simply mind games, yet on here people swallowed them whole and used them to 'prove' we have a bad squad.

I might be guilt of a self woosh in this, as I can't remember what I said about his previous comments. But it made me chuckle nonetheless.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:41 - Mar 4 with 2648 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:32 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC

Plays better football than Hurst, has signed better players than Hurst and has a personality.


Wouldn't say that he has signed better players than Hurst at the time of his appointment.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:41 - Mar 4 with 2649 viewsHullblue

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:35 - Mar 4 by WarkTheWarkITFC

Barton has always been an articulate, decent thinker that just seems to turn into a complete nutjob in the heat of a football match, more so when playing.

No doubt management has mellowed him. He's always had a brain which is why some of the incidents he's been involved in have been even stranger.


That’s the thing - I think he looks attractive right now because he’s articulate, and PL is the complete opposite.

His managerial achievements so far aren’t enough to cancel out all the stupid stuff he’s done, in my view. Not sure management has mellowed him - didn’t he face a criminal charge for assaulting a fellow manager pretty recently?

I think we can do better. Whether ME is capable of choosing better is a different matter.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:42 - Mar 4 with 2636 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:35 - Mar 4 by WarkTheWarkITFC

Barton has always been an articulate, decent thinker that just seems to turn into a complete nutjob in the heat of a football match, more so when playing.

No doubt management has mellowed him. He's always had a brain which is why some of the incidents he's been involved in have been even stranger.


His 'complete nutjob' moments were in no way limited to the football pitch.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:43 - Mar 4 with 2613 viewsitfcjoe

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:41 - Mar 4 by Hullblue

That’s the thing - I think he looks attractive right now because he’s articulate, and PL is the complete opposite.

His managerial achievements so far aren’t enough to cancel out all the stupid stuff he’s done, in my view. Not sure management has mellowed him - didn’t he face a criminal charge for assaulting a fellow manager pretty recently?

I think we can do better. Whether ME is capable of choosing better is a different matter.


I wonder if it is a generational thing.

Barton more of a Millenial - used to having to explain his thinking and not scared to do so. Knows that if the players aren't having him then he'll lose them

Lambert more of a Boomer - more of a culture of deference to leadership and expects others to be the same.

Lambert seems to have lost any joy he has in the game, just doesn't seem to enjoy anything to do with it

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:48 - Mar 4 with 2565 viewsJakeITFC

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:41 - Mar 4 by Marshalls_Mullet

Wouldn't say that he has signed better players than Hurst at the time of his appointment.


Paul Coutts is a better signing (in terms of both stature and ability) than anybody Hurst has taken.
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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:49 - Mar 4 with 2557 viewsJakeITFC

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:41 - Mar 4 by Hullblue

That’s the thing - I think he looks attractive right now because he’s articulate, and PL is the complete opposite.

His managerial achievements so far aren’t enough to cancel out all the stupid stuff he’s done, in my view. Not sure management has mellowed him - didn’t he face a criminal charge for assaulting a fellow manager pretty recently?

I think we can do better. Whether ME is capable of choosing better is a different matter.


I’d be very surprised if he isn’t managing at a higher level than us (with or without Fleetwood) in the near future.
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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 with 2553 viewsPinewoodblue

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:43 - Mar 4 by itfcjoe

I wonder if it is a generational thing.

Barton more of a Millenial - used to having to explain his thinking and not scared to do so. Knows that if the players aren't having him then he'll lose them

Lambert more of a Boomer - more of a culture of deference to leadership and expects others to be the same.

Lambert seems to have lost any joy he has in the game, just doesn't seem to enjoy anything to do with it


Can you imagine Marcus Evans asking Paul Lambert , after any of our recent games, to explain his thinking about the match,

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 with 2551 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:43 - Mar 4 by itfcjoe

I wonder if it is a generational thing.

Barton more of a Millenial - used to having to explain his thinking and not scared to do so. Knows that if the players aren't having him then he'll lose them

Lambert more of a Boomer - more of a culture of deference to leadership and expects others to be the same.

Lambert seems to have lost any joy he has in the game, just doesn't seem to enjoy anything to do with it


I don't really believe on judging a person based on when they were born. I don't think its generational.

Jurgen Klopp is older than Lambert, and manages in a much more progressive / modern way.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 with 2541 viewsHullblue

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:43 - Mar 4 by itfcjoe

I wonder if it is a generational thing.

Barton more of a Millenial - used to having to explain his thinking and not scared to do so. Knows that if the players aren't having him then he'll lose them

Lambert more of a Boomer - more of a culture of deference to leadership and expects others to be the same.

Lambert seems to have lost any joy he has in the game, just doesn't seem to enjoy anything to do with it


That’s an interesting point. Brings to mind Gareth Southgate, who has generated a lot of good will simply by being open and honest and admitting his own limitations at times.

Who would you replace PL with, Joe?

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:51 - Mar 4 with 2535 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:48 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC

Paul Coutts is a better signing (in terms of both stature and ability) than anybody Hurst has taken.


Thats a bit revisionary.

When Hurst was appointed Nolan and Nsiala were seen a great signings for Shrewsbury.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:51 - Mar 4 with 2524 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 by Hullblue

That’s an interesting point. Brings to mind Gareth Southgate, who has generated a lot of good will simply by being open and honest and admitting his own limitations at times.

Who would you replace PL with, Joe?


..which suggests its not a generational thing.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:54 - Mar 4 with 2491 viewsitfcjoe

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 by Pinewoodblue

Can you imagine Marcus Evans asking Paul Lambert , after any of our recent games, to explain his thinking about the match,


No but if the press ask anything he just shuts them down

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:54 - Mar 4 with 2488 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:49 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC

I’d be very surprised if he isn’t managing at a higher level than us (with or without Fleetwood) in the near future.


I think he will get a Champ job at some point, and that appointment will take into account his wider media profile.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:56 - Mar 4 with 2475 viewsJakeITFC

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:51 - Mar 4 by Marshalls_Mullet

Thats a bit revisionary.

When Hurst was appointed Nolan and Nsiala were seen a great signings for Shrewsbury.


Yes but the difference is that Paul Coutts is actually good (and joined Fleetwood from recently promoted Sheffield United, so a bit of a coup).
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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:56 - Mar 4 with 2468 viewsHullblue

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:49 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC

I’d be very surprised if he isn’t managing at a higher level than us (with or without Fleetwood) in the near future.


I think you’re probably right - he’ll do quite well. But he’s seemingly so volatile that when things start to go wrong he’ll do something mental and we’ll have to start all over again.

It would be different if we had a strong structure and the manager was just a head coach, but we seem to give our managers so much power. I wouldn’t be comfortable entrusting all that with Joey Barton.

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:57 - Mar 4 with 2469 viewsitfcjoe

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 by Marshalls_Mullet

I don't really believe on judging a person based on when they were born. I don't think its generational.

Jurgen Klopp is older than Lambert, and manages in a much more progressive / modern way.


Of course people are different, but generalisations exist for a reason - someone like Klopp is a manager who has shown he has been able to adapt.

Someone like Mourinho has had limited success since Milenials have been the main men in his dressing room and has been written about a bit https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/espn-fc-united/68/post/2762494/jose-mourinho-lo

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 12:00 - Mar 4 with 2436 viewsitfcjoe

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:50 - Mar 4 by Hullblue

That’s an interesting point. Brings to mind Gareth Southgate, who has generated a lot of good will simply by being open and honest and admitting his own limitations at times.

Who would you replace PL with, Joe?


There is a lot of talk about Southgate's 'collegiate' approach as opposed to an authoratiative approach from likes of Capello etc.

Players these days haven't been cleaning boots and banned from senior dressing rooms and car parks, those days are gone where they are made to 'prove' themselves and maybe Lambert can't handle that?

I personally think Nathan Jones would do a good job here out of unemployed managers. You hear about some managers who when they are interviewed present a Powerpoint of what theya re looking to do, having analysed recent performances etc. i want someone like hat, someone smart and confident - not an old hat

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Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 12:02 - Mar 4 with 2411 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Joey Barton speaking a lot of sense on 11:56 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC

Yes but the difference is that Paul Coutts is actually good (and joined Fleetwood from recently promoted Sheffield United, so a bit of a coup).


We wont know the answer until he plays in the Champ.
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