| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now 21:46 - May 14 with 3964 views | StNeotsBlue |
It seemed to be expected that Kieron was going to be more involved with the 1st team given his increased role at the back end of last season and Cook's praise of him. But recent appointments don't seem to back that up. Not utilising such an asset would seem an error of judgement. Which to my mind would be a shame and a mistake, the guy is Ipswich through and through and has done the business at the highest level. |  | | |  |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:48 - May 14 with 3926 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
If he is out of the first team picture, I'd be surprised if he stuck around.
Although maybe he enjoys the U23 role? |  |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:52 - May 14 with 3885 views | WicklowBlue |
Why is it a misjudgement when we don't know who the assistant manager will be? Equally we don't know how good Kieron would be in the role but we do know he did great in the U23s. Maybe Cook wants him to focus on developing the pipeline into the Senior team and continue his development?
There is so much over analysis happening on here currently, with no real insight or basis. Have we not wanted change and a complete overhaul? Now we are watching it happen people are questioning it. |  | | |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:53 - May 14 with 3877 views | PhilTWTD |
Think he's still going to be the U23s coach. |  | | |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:56 - May 14 with 3841 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:52 - May 14 by WicklowBlue |
Why is it a misjudgement when we don't know who the assistant manager will be? Equally we don't know how good Kieron would be in the role but we do know he did great in the U23s. Maybe Cook wants him to focus on developing the pipeline into the Senior team and continue his development?
There is so much over analysis happening on here currently, with no real insight or basis. Have we not wanted change and a complete overhaul? Now we are watching it happen people are questioning it. |
It's fair for people to question appointments of first team coaches with no experience.
It's also been suggested today that Dyer won't be involved in the first team.
Cook did say recently that Dyer was an excellent coach and would be involved in the first team, so if that changes it does seem like an about turn.
It's ok to disagree. | |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:56 - May 14 with 3856 views | itfcjoe |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:53 - May 14 by PhilTWTD |
Think he's still going to be the U23s coach. |
Sit tight and pick up the pieces.....! In all seriousness I think not tying himself to closely to Cook at this stage may not be a bad idea |  |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:57 - May 14 with 3812 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:53 - May 14 by PhilTWTD |
Think he's still going to be the U23s coach. |
Do you think that's Dyers preference at this stage? | |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:00 - May 14 with 3792 views | PhilTWTD |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:57 - May 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Do you think that's Dyers preference at this stage? |
I think he would have liked to have been part of the first-team set-up but enjoys the U23s role, and I'm sure more so under PC than PL. | | | |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:09 - May 14 with 3671 views | J2BLUE |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:00 - May 14 by PhilTWTD |
I think he would have liked to have been part of the first-team set-up but enjoys the U23s role, and I'm sure more so under PC than PL. |
Wasn't your guess that he was going to be the assistant manager? If that no longer your view? Apologies if i've got that wrong. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:11 - May 14 with 3639 views | WicklowBlue |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:56 - May 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It's fair for people to question appointments of first team coaches with no experience.
It's also been suggested today that Dyer won't be involved in the first team.
Cook did say recently that Dyer was an excellent coach and would be involved in the first team, so if that changes it does seem like an about turn.
It's ok to disagree. |
Of course it's ok to disagree, as I am with some of the comments going on currently. In fairness I went off topic from the OP.
Just think people are creating so many different narratives when we don't know the details of conversations. Getting back to the Dyer situation, he has been involved in the first team and is on record saying he has learnt more from Cook than he has for years. So again maybe Cook has said I need you mate working with the U23s and developing them towards the 1st team. | | | |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:14 - May 14 with 3611 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:11 - May 14 by WicklowBlue |
Of course it's ok to disagree, as I am with some of the comments going on currently. In fairness I went off topic from the OP.
Just think people are creating so many different narratives when we don't know the details of conversations. Getting back to the Dyer situation, he has been involved in the first team and is on record saying he has learnt more from Cook than he has for years. So again maybe Cook has said I need you mate working with the U23s and developing them towards the 1st team. |
The Craney appointment is a bit of an odd one, no one really minded about Roberts but when you appoint a kit man as first team coach when they said recently "I started taking my coaching badges but being a kit man suits me better." , it is a bit of a head scratcher.
He was working in a bakery in 2019. You do wonder if there aren't better coaches out there...
If Dyer wants to be U23 coach then great. [Post edited 14 May 2021 22:16]
| |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:37 - May 14 with 3422 views | PhilTWTD |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:09 - May 14 by J2BLUE |
Wasn't your guess that he was going to be the assistant manager? If that no longer your view? Apologies if i've got that wrong. |
Yes, I was guessing he might be the other day but seems that's not the case. Not even sure there is going to be an assistant manager. | | | |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:50 - May 14 with 3327 views | Coco |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 21:56 - May 14 by itfcjoe |
Sit tight and pick up the pieces.....! In all seriousness I think not tying himself to closely to Cook at this stage may not be a bad idea |
Why’s that?
KD was full of praise for Cook and rather damning of the quality at the club and academy the other. I guess you know more? |  |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 06:47 - May 15 with 2961 views | itfcjoe |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 22:50 - May 14 by Coco |
Why’s that?
KD was full of praise for Cook and rather damning of the quality at the club and academy the other. I guess you know more? |
Well it’s fairly obvious Cook is taking the nuclear option here, it’s either going to go well or badly, and we’ll know within 6-9 months whixh way that is likely to go.
There isn’t going to be a massive middle ground whixh sees Cook plod along for a couple of years - as a long standing coach here, not saying that is what KD is doing, I thibk not chucking all eggs in Cook basket at this moment may be sensible
He’ll obviously support him, and obviously rates him but may be worth keeping powder dry | |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 10:12 - May 15 with 2657 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 06:47 - May 15 by itfcjoe |
Well it’s fairly obvious Cook is taking the nuclear option here, it’s either going to go well or badly, and we’ll know within 6-9 months whixh way that is likely to go.
There isn’t going to be a massive middle ground whixh sees Cook plod along for a couple of years - as a long standing coach here, not saying that is what KD is doing, I thibk not chucking all eggs in Cook basket at this moment may be sensible
He’ll obviously support him, and obviously rates him but may be worth keeping powder dry |
Can see a situation where PC puts together a promotion team, doesn’t get the best out of them and KD takes over.
Evan’s last blunder may well end up as him not trusting KD and TB to see last season out. |  |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 10:56 - May 15 with 2536 views | Keaneish |
His position hasn’t changed so what exactly are you worried about? Seems like yet another post from someone worrying about nothing! |  |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 11:09 - May 15 with 2474 views | chicoazul |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 10:56 - May 15 by Keaneish |
His position hasn’t changed so what exactly are you worried about? Seems like yet another post from someone worrying about nothing! |
That’s the definition of worrying. |  |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 11:41 - May 15 with 2347 views | Coco |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 06:47 - May 15 by itfcjoe |
Well it’s fairly obvious Cook is taking the nuclear option here, it’s either going to go well or badly, and we’ll know within 6-9 months whixh way that is likely to go.
There isn’t going to be a massive middle ground whixh sees Cook plod along for a couple of years - as a long standing coach here, not saying that is what KD is doing, I thibk not chucking all eggs in Cook basket at this moment may be sensible
He’ll obviously support him, and obviously rates him but may be worth keeping powder dry |
Fair enough and thanks for clarifying. I fully understand Cook’s ‘get onboard or get out’ strategy btw. He simply needs to be ruthless and upset some people to shake the club out of its malaise. Big managers and huge clubs have had to bomb established influential voices in order to make progress. The club cannot suffer in order to appease the likes of Skuse and Chambers, who if we’re honest are fantastic guys with great longevity but never fabulous footballers. | |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 13:38 - May 15 with 2185 views | itfcjoe |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 11:41 - May 15 by Coco |
Fair enough and thanks for clarifying. I fully understand Cook’s ‘get onboard or get out’ strategy btw. He simply needs to be ruthless and upset some people to shake the club out of its malaise. Big managers and huge clubs have had to bomb established influential voices in order to make progress. The club cannot suffer in order to appease the likes of Skuse and Chambers, who if we’re honest are fantastic guys with great longevity but never fabulous footballers. |
I think where I am struggling with it is that you can understand being ruthless with the decisions made, but think that they can still be handled better than they have been.
If he doesn’t want them then so be it, but our skipper shouldn’t be treated badly in that process.
The decision is the ruthless thing - not how it is given | |
| |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 14:15 - May 15 with 2064 views | textbackup |
| Slightly concerned about Kieron's position now on 10:56 - May 15 by Keaneish |
His position hasn’t changed so what exactly are you worried about? Seems like yet another post from someone worrying about nothing! |
The same KD that spoke very highly of PC
The same KD sat with PC and a few other coaches in the pub last Sunday with beaming smiles on their faces with no issue in the world.
Those that have made their minds up about PC already are making situations up to try further ‘prove’ themselves right
It’s weird [Post edited 15 May 2021 14:21]
|  |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
