| Esteban Ocon 16:34 - Aug 1 with 2808 views | CokeIsKey |
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| Esteban Ocon on 17:41 - Aug 1 with 2749 views | Chondzoresk |
Excellent race, defo well done EO too. But what a cock up by AMG Merc. LH should have been in for slicks after the formation lap…….just like every other driver did. That lost him the race. The fight between FA and LH was brilliant. Great race ruined by Bottas at the first corner. Felt sorry for Norris, Vestappen, Perez and various others who were passengers thanks to VBs late braking. |  | | |
| Esteban Ocon on 17:47 - Aug 1 with 2733 views | chrismakin |
| Esteban Ocon on 17:41 - Aug 1 by Chondzoresk |
Excellent race, defo well done EO too. But what a cock up by AMG Merc. LH should have been in for slicks after the formation lap…….just like every other driver did. That lost him the race. The fight between FA and LH was brilliant. Great race ruined by Bottas at the first corner. Felt sorry for Norris, Vestappen, Perez and various others who were passengers thanks to VBs late braking. |
Tough call.
Had Hamilton pitted first he would have had to wait for the rest to pass before he could exit his pit box so would have come out in the middle of the pack. Least at the back he had space in front for a bit. Almost the perfect strategy with 2 further stops.. pretty much 2 laps longer and he would have won.
One thing is long covid. Been saying to my son that Hamilton has looked odd after every race. Breathing issues. Slight coughs etc during interviews more than historically.. now confirmed as long covid. Which makes his achievements even more incredible tbh. [Post edited 1 Aug 2021 17:51]
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| Esteban Ocon on 17:54 - Aug 1 with 2700 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Esteban Ocon on 17:47 - Aug 1 by chrismakin |
Tough call.
Had Hamilton pitted first he would have had to wait for the rest to pass before he could exit his pit box so would have come out in the middle of the pack. Least at the back he had space in front for a bit. Almost the perfect strategy with 2 further stops.. pretty much 2 laps longer and he would have won.
One thing is long covid. Been saying to my son that Hamilton has looked odd after every race. Breathing issues. Slight coughs etc during interviews more than historically.. now confirmed as long covid. Which makes his achievements even more incredible tbh. [Post edited 1 Aug 2021 17:51]
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If he had pitted he would have come out first, as everyone else pitted
The track was dry so bizarre that he didn’t come in. The argument that because he was first it became a much bigger gamble doesn’t hold any water either, as clearly not coming in was just as much of, if not a bigger, gamble. Horrible call |  |
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| Esteban Ocon on 17:58 - Aug 1 with 2686 views | MerseyBlue |
Very enjoyable. Obviously the decision not to pit at the start was the big one but really well-raced by Ocon and Vettel. I'm not sure Ocon would have held on if Kimi hadn't come out of the pit lane at the same time as Hamilton was trying his first move on Alonso but having seen how Alonso defended for several laps, who knows. Cool to have someone different win it. |  |
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| Esteban Ocon on 18:01 - Aug 1 with 2676 views | chrismakin |
| Esteban Ocon on 17:54 - Aug 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
If he had pitted he would have come out first, as everyone else pitted
The track was dry so bizarre that he didn’t come in. The argument that because he was first it became a much bigger gamble doesn’t hold any water either, as clearly not coming in was just as much of, if not a bigger, gamble. Horrible call |
Definately wouldnt have come out first. His pit box is first. Hed have changed tyres then sat waiting for the back markers to go past, .... all whilst those who already went through change their tyres and got back out. We will never know though is how many would have got in and out but I can understand why they went with that decision. Would say tho Lewis could have made his own mind up and come In though
The pain was Alonso. Bloody good defensive moves. | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 18:20 - Aug 1 with 2640 views | TractorFrog |
That was the best race I’ve seen since Canada 2011. Ocon drove exceptionally, but the driver of the day was Alonso for me. He won that race for his teammate with some class defending against Hamilton. |  |
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| Esteban Ocon on 19:35 - Aug 1 with 2563 views | stonojnr |
| Esteban Ocon on 17:47 - Aug 1 by chrismakin |
Tough call.
Had Hamilton pitted first he would have had to wait for the rest to pass before he could exit his pit box so would have come out in the middle of the pack. Least at the back he had space in front for a bit. Almost the perfect strategy with 2 further stops.. pretty much 2 laps longer and he would have won.
One thing is long covid. Been saying to my son that Hamilton has looked odd after every race. Breathing issues. Slight coughs etc during interviews more than historically.. now confirmed as long covid. Which makes his achievements even more incredible tbh. [Post edited 1 Aug 2021 17:51]
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and Nigel Mansell looked like that after every race, sometimes worse,and it wasnt long covid that did it.
its simply the result of hustling an F1 car through the field for over 2hrs in high humidity heat in Hungary, they, theyll probably announce later he lost 2-3 litres of fluid dropped a kilo in weight just via sweat and had used all his drinks bottle by half distance or something and thats the issue, Bottas has said their black race suits do increase the body temperature the driver has to cope with, and running in the pack for the whole race means he spent alot of time in the exhaust flow from other cars, which makes it even warmer, so he probably expends quite alot of energy having had to race like this at this moment rather than just driving out front, maybe this spec of Mercedes is alot tougher to drive like that,and that puts more emphasis on maintaining energy/fluid intake as well, else you will quickly dehydrate and when you are dehydrated you tend to cough more because you get a dry mouth.
thats all it is, just get some fluids with some salts/electrolyte in it in him, sparkling wine is probably the last thing you should be drinking in that situation, whilst a can of Red Bull would be ideal ;) |  | | |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:40 - Aug 1 with 2556 views | chrismakin |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:35 - Aug 1 by stonojnr |
and Nigel Mansell looked like that after every race, sometimes worse,and it wasnt long covid that did it.
its simply the result of hustling an F1 car through the field for over 2hrs in high humidity heat in Hungary, they, theyll probably announce later he lost 2-3 litres of fluid dropped a kilo in weight just via sweat and had used all his drinks bottle by half distance or something and thats the issue, Bottas has said their black race suits do increase the body temperature the driver has to cope with, and running in the pack for the whole race means he spent alot of time in the exhaust flow from other cars, which makes it even warmer, so he probably expends quite alot of energy having had to race like this at this moment rather than just driving out front, maybe this spec of Mercedes is alot tougher to drive like that,and that puts more emphasis on maintaining energy/fluid intake as well, else you will quickly dehydrate and when you are dehydrated you tend to cough more because you get a dry mouth.
thats all it is, just get some fluids with some salts/electrolyte in it in him, sparkling wine is probably the last thing you should be drinking in that situation, whilst a can of Red Bull would be ideal ;) |
Yes I'm well aware of the usual post match feelings. However as lewis confirmed hes been struggling since he was off and very Ill with Covid. | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 06:01 - Aug 2 with 2344 views | solomon |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:35 - Aug 1 by stonojnr |
and Nigel Mansell looked like that after every race, sometimes worse,and it wasnt long covid that did it.
its simply the result of hustling an F1 car through the field for over 2hrs in high humidity heat in Hungary, they, theyll probably announce later he lost 2-3 litres of fluid dropped a kilo in weight just via sweat and had used all his drinks bottle by half distance or something and thats the issue, Bottas has said their black race suits do increase the body temperature the driver has to cope with, and running in the pack for the whole race means he spent alot of time in the exhaust flow from other cars, which makes it even warmer, so he probably expends quite alot of energy having had to race like this at this moment rather than just driving out front, maybe this spec of Mercedes is alot tougher to drive like that,and that puts more emphasis on maintaining energy/fluid intake as well, else you will quickly dehydrate and when you are dehydrated you tend to cough more because you get a dry mouth.
thats all it is, just get some fluids with some salts/electrolyte in it in him, sparkling wine is probably the last thing you should be drinking in that situation, whilst a can of Red Bull would be ideal ;) |
Simple, Lewis is looking a tad overweight to me this season. He’s not a slim as he once was and does seem to be carrying more bulk than before, this may be down to age or a change in training regime? It gets tougher and tougher to keep a level of physical fitness compared to 23 year olds. |  | | |
| Esteban Ocon on 09:22 - Aug 2 with 2222 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:35 - Aug 1 by stonojnr |
and Nigel Mansell looked like that after every race, sometimes worse,and it wasnt long covid that did it.
its simply the result of hustling an F1 car through the field for over 2hrs in high humidity heat in Hungary, they, theyll probably announce later he lost 2-3 litres of fluid dropped a kilo in weight just via sweat and had used all his drinks bottle by half distance or something and thats the issue, Bottas has said their black race suits do increase the body temperature the driver has to cope with, and running in the pack for the whole race means he spent alot of time in the exhaust flow from other cars, which makes it even warmer, so he probably expends quite alot of energy having had to race like this at this moment rather than just driving out front, maybe this spec of Mercedes is alot tougher to drive like that,and that puts more emphasis on maintaining energy/fluid intake as well, else you will quickly dehydrate and when you are dehydrated you tend to cough more because you get a dry mouth.
thats all it is, just get some fluids with some salts/electrolyte in it in him, sparkling wine is probably the last thing you should be drinking in that situation, whilst a can of Red Bull would be ideal ;) |
Didn't Mansell smoke like a chiney? If so, that can't have helped!
Edit: no such word as "smole" - actually, there is if you use the urban dictionary a lot... [Post edited 2 Aug 2021 9:27]
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| Esteban Ocon on 15:27 - Aug 2 with 2091 views | solomon |
| Esteban Ocon on 09:22 - Aug 2 by Ewan_Oozami |
Didn't Mansell smoke like a chiney? If so, that can't have helped!
Edit: no such word as "smole" - actually, there is if you use the urban dictionary a lot... [Post edited 2 Aug 2021 9:27]
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No he didn’t, you’re getting confused with Keke Rosberg, who smoked a lot. | | | |
| Esteban Ocon on 15:43 - Aug 2 with 2060 views | RadioOrwell |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:35 - Aug 1 by stonojnr |
and Nigel Mansell looked like that after every race, sometimes worse,and it wasnt long covid that did it.
its simply the result of hustling an F1 car through the field for over 2hrs in high humidity heat in Hungary, they, theyll probably announce later he lost 2-3 litres of fluid dropped a kilo in weight just via sweat and had used all his drinks bottle by half distance or something and thats the issue, Bottas has said their black race suits do increase the body temperature the driver has to cope with, and running in the pack for the whole race means he spent alot of time in the exhaust flow from other cars, which makes it even warmer, so he probably expends quite alot of energy having had to race like this at this moment rather than just driving out front, maybe this spec of Mercedes is alot tougher to drive like that,and that puts more emphasis on maintaining energy/fluid intake as well, else you will quickly dehydrate and when you are dehydrated you tend to cough more because you get a dry mouth.
thats all it is, just get some fluids with some salts/electrolyte in it in him, sparkling wine is probably the last thing you should be drinking in that situation, whilst a can of Red Bull would be ideal ;) |
Even though he has said it's Long Covid. |  | | |
| Esteban Ocon on 15:45 - Aug 2 with 2053 views | RadioOrwell |
| Esteban Ocon on 06:01 - Aug 2 by solomon |
Simple, Lewis is looking a tad overweight to me this season. He’s not a slim as he once was and does seem to be carrying more bulk than before, this may be down to age or a change in training regime? It gets tougher and tougher to keep a level of physical fitness compared to 23 year olds. |
Even though he has said it's Long Covid. | | | |
| Esteban Ocon on 16:04 - Aug 2 with 2032 views | Radlett_blue |
| Esteban Ocon on 18:01 - Aug 1 by chrismakin |
Definately wouldnt have come out first. His pit box is first. Hed have changed tyres then sat waiting for the back markers to go past, .... all whilst those who already went through change their tyres and got back out. We will never know though is how many would have got in and out but I can understand why they went with that decision. Would say tho Lewis could have made his own mind up and come In though
The pain was Alonso. Bloody good defensive moves. |
If Hamilton' pit box was first in line, surely he would have got out first as his tyres should have been changed before anyone else's so he would have been first car out once everyone had the go-ahead to exit?
I believe team radio is silenced during the formation lap these days so most teams would have decided before the formation lap if their cars were coming straight in, although some drivers may have unilaterally made that decision during the formation lap. I wonder how the reams with 2 cars still running coped once their first car was in the pit box. |  |
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| Esteban Ocon on 19:09 - Aug 2 with 1977 views | chrismakin |
| Esteban Ocon on 16:04 - Aug 2 by Radlett_blue |
If Hamilton' pit box was first in line, surely he would have got out first as his tyres should have been changed before anyone else's so he would have been first car out once everyone had the go-ahead to exit?
I believe team radio is silenced during the formation lap these days so most teams would have decided before the formation lap if their cars were coming straight in, although some drivers may have unilaterally made that decision during the formation lap. I wonder how the reams with 2 cars still running coped once their first car was in the pit box. |
Your last part is exactly why lewis would have been held up after his stop hed had been waiting for the pack to move and pit. For example had he pitted altho it would have taken 2.3 seconds... waiting for the other cars before being released would have end up giving him effectively a 10 second stop whilst he waited to be released into a clean pit run off.
2nd place tho coz of Vettel fuel issue so overall not a bad weekend. | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 19:43 - Aug 2 with 1946 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Esteban Ocon on 18:01 - Aug 1 by chrismakin |
Definately wouldnt have come out first. His pit box is first. Hed have changed tyres then sat waiting for the back markers to go past, .... all whilst those who already went through change their tyres and got back out. We will never know though is how many would have got in and out but I can understand why they went with that decision. Would say tho Lewis could have made his own mind up and come In though
The pain was Alonso. Bloody good defensive moves. |
Sorry, thought you meant he would have come out last had nobody else pitted. Yes, had he come in he may have lost a couple of places due to the Mercedes garage placement but it’s incredibly unlikely he’d have come out last, as most teams had multiple cars and there would have been gaps to release anyway - hence no one else moving more than a place or two. Either way it was a horrible shout, as dropping a few spots would clearly have been preferable to dropping to last (and having to catch the tail of the pack) | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 19:43 - Aug 2 with 1944 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Esteban Ocon on 06:01 - Aug 2 by solomon |
Simple, Lewis is looking a tad overweight to me this season. He’s not a slim as he once was and does seem to be carrying more bulk than before, this may be down to age or a change in training regime? It gets tougher and tougher to keep a level of physical fitness compared to 23 year olds. |
Blimey, I’m sure 99.9% of people wish they were that overweight | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 19:46 - Aug 2 with 1938 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Esteban Ocon on 16:04 - Aug 2 by Radlett_blue |
If Hamilton' pit box was first in line, surely he would have got out first as his tyres should have been changed before anyone else's so he would have been first car out once everyone had the go-ahead to exit?
I believe team radio is silenced during the formation lap these days so most teams would have decided before the formation lap if their cars were coming straight in, although some drivers may have unilaterally made that decision during the formation lap. I wonder how the reams with 2 cars still running coped once their first car was in the pit box. |
That radios were silenced is a myth - Hamilton himself has said he was telling the team it was dry and told to stay out, and the Sky coverage included a clip of Russell communicating with the pit wall on the formation lap
Mercedes chose to keep him out because they didn’t dare take the gamble to come in with him leading. Seemingly oblivious that keeping him out was just as much of a gamble in itself - probably more so given inters were obviously the wrong tyre | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 08:52 - Aug 3 with 1821 views | Radlett_blue |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:46 - Aug 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
That radios were silenced is a myth - Hamilton himself has said he was telling the team it was dry and told to stay out, and the Sky coverage included a clip of Russell communicating with the pit wall on the formation lap
Mercedes chose to keep him out because they didn’t dare take the gamble to come in with him leading. Seemingly oblivious that keeping him out was just as much of a gamble in itself - probably more so given inters were obviously the wrong tyre |
What I found particularly odd was Toto Wolf saying afterwards that he still thought keeping Lewis out had been the right call, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Some people just won't admit to having made a mistake. | |
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| Esteban Ocon on 11:35 - Aug 3 with 1757 views | solomon |
| Esteban Ocon on 19:43 - Aug 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Blimey, I’m sure 99.9% of people wish they were that overweight |
For a F1 driver yes he’s possibly getting a tad chunky. If you’ve ever tried to squeeze yourself into a single seater you’ll realise they are predominately suited to jockey sized individuals. | | | |
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