| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) 08:55 - Nov 22 with 1235 views | Woolfenthen |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 09:59 - Nov 22 with 1117 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
With the recent Oldham game, it got me thinking about how good Joe Royle was.
Strange to say, but there's an argument that he's our best manager of the past two decades!! |  |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:09 - Nov 22 with 1068 views | clive_baker |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 09:59 - Nov 22 by Marshalls_Mullet |
With the recent Oldham game, it got me thinking about how good Joe Royle was.
Strange to say, but there's an argument that he's our best manager of the past two decades!! |
Agree, absolutey top class. He would have this squad feeling 10ft tall. |  |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:14 - Nov 22 with 1053 views | timothyeo |
To be fair, Mick would probably have this squad challenging for the title right now. |  | | |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:18 - Nov 22 with 1031 views | Pinewoodblue |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:14 - Nov 22 by timothyeo |
To be fair, Mick would probably have this squad challenging for the title right now. |
No way would Mick have put this squad together. |  |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:22 - Nov 22 with 1021 views | Herbivore |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:18 - Nov 22 by Pinewoodblue |
No way would Mick have put this squad together. |
Agreed, there's no way he'd loan in a flair player like Celina. |  |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 11:23 - Nov 22 with 902 views | MattinLondon |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:22 - Nov 22 by Herbivore |
Agreed, there's no way he'd loan in a flair player like Celina. |
On a side note it will be interesting to see where, if anywhere, Mick ends up next. Wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up on a short term contract at a Barnsley, Hull or even Reading with the task of avoiding relegation. Not sure any club with promotion ambitions in the championship or L1 will employ him. |  | | |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:27 - Nov 22 with 796 views | borge |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 09:59 - Nov 22 by Marshalls_Mullet |
With the recent Oldham game, it got me thinking about how good Joe Royle was.
Strange to say, but there's an argument that he's our best manager of the past two decades!! |
There isn't an argument, he IS the best manager we have had in the past two decades. Achieved as much as Mick, arguably on a lower budget (relative to the period in question) whilst playing very attractive football. | | | |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:51 - Nov 22 with 740 views | HighgateBlue |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:27 - Nov 22 by borge |
There isn't an argument, he IS the best manager we have had in the past two decades. Achieved as much as Mick, arguably on a lower budget (relative to the period in question) whilst playing very attractive football. |
I have no bad words to say about Royle at all, but to be fair he inherited a few players of a much higher calibre than Mick did.
His inherited squad, from memory would've included:
Wilnis, McGreal, Venus, Hermann, Clapham, Magilton, Holland, Reuser(?), Ambrose, both Bents, Pablo.
I know we were heading downwards, in a bad way financially, and a few of the above had to be sold fairly sharpish, but Mick's inherited squad was not of the same quality. |  | | |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:52 - Nov 22 with 731 views | Zx1988 |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:27 - Nov 22 by borge |
There isn't an argument, he IS the best manager we have had in the past two decades. Achieved as much as Mick, arguably on a lower budget (relative to the period in question) whilst playing very attractive football. |
What was it that JR used to say? That you could win the Championship with a transfer budget of £2m? | |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 13:13 - Nov 22 with 680 views | Herbivore |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:51 - Nov 22 by HighgateBlue |
I have no bad words to say about Royle at all, but to be fair he inherited a few players of a much higher calibre than Mick did.
His inherited squad, from memory would've included:
Wilnis, McGreal, Venus, Hermann, Clapham, Magilton, Holland, Reuser(?), Ambrose, both Bents, Pablo.
I know we were heading downwards, in a bad way financially, and a few of the above had to be sold fairly sharpish, but Mick's inherited squad was not of the same quality. |
Indeed. And although we didn't spend on fees under Royle, we could compete on wages. That's how we managed to sign the likes of Kelvin Davis and Jason de Vos who were pretty top drawer quality at that level. By the time of Mick's tenure the playing field in the Championship was a lot more unequal, parachute payments had skyrocketed and several other sides were risking their financial futures to compete, and we got left behind. | |
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| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 13:47 - Nov 22 with 623 views | timothyeo |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 10:18 - Nov 22 by Pinewoodblue |
No way would Mick have put this squad together. |
He wouldn't have needed to as we'd still be in the Championship, but neither are the point i'm making.
Put Mick in charge of this lot at the start of the season and we're serious title contenders. | | | |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 14:14 - Nov 22 with 579 views | Churchman |
| 20 years ago today, how bloody depressing! (n/t) on 12:27 - Nov 22 by borge |
There isn't an argument, he IS the best manager we have had in the past two decades. Achieved as much as Mick, arguably on a lower budget (relative to the period in question) whilst playing very attractive football. |
I agree. I think Joe Royle is the best manager of the last two decades by a distance. He basically produced two play off teams, one of which was very unlucky not be promoted, in a time of huge uncertainty for the club and players sold from under him.
Royle produced exciting teams mixing experience with yoof (thinking of Darren Bent here). To use a terrible cliche, the club felt safe in his hands. He stabilised it. He was a flippin good manager who had done it in the Premier League with Oldham and would have done it with us.
Another underrated manager for us was John Lyall. He was excellent in turning a bunch of strangers into a Team that won Div 2 with ease. Such a shame he didn’t come to us a couple of years earlier instead of the nice-bloke-but-abject John Duncan. [Post edited 22 Nov 2021 14:16]
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