| I'd go 4-3-3 11:18 - Dec 9 with 1073 views | iamipswich |
Gives us more numbers in midfield and allows our wingers to receive the ball higher up the pitch. With Morsy and El Miz providing cover to the Full backs and Fraser allowed to be more forward looking.
It's not a huge change from 4-2-3-1 but think it will give a better balance to the team, releasing our attacking players a little more, while not getting overrun in midfield as has been the case lately.
Walton
KVY Woolfenden Edmundson Penney
El Miz Fraser Morsy
Burns (Plz!)/Aluko Edwards
Bonne
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:24 - Dec 9 with 1035 views | SomethingBlue |
Could work for us but we should try and find a role for Celina, who remains weirdly underrated by many despite all the pretty obvious evidence to the contrary. |  |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:24 - Dec 9 with 1030 views | StokieBlue |
No Celina?
If he's fit he has to play.
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:26 - Dec 9 with 1018 views | gordon |
Nah, if we played wing-backs with Burns on one side and Coulson/Penney on the other, El Miz, Fraser and Morsy in the middle, Chappers and the Pig up top we could still pull off the 100 points 100 goals. |  | | |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:28 - Dec 9 with 1002 views | iamipswich |
I'll be honest, I had forgotten about Celina but was thinking ahead mainly to Wigan where he may still be injured.
I'm actually very pro-Celina and think he was harshly singled out after Rotherham. He would change the balance of the team unless he plays instead of Fraser (who I'm not convinced by) and really puts in a shift. | |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:29 - Dec 9 with 995 views | itfcsuth |
My preference with this squad would be a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-2-1.
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Pigott - Chaplin
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Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Chaplin - Celina
Pigott |  | | |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:55 - Dec 9 with 931 views | Illinoisblue |
4-4-2 for me, if that makes me a dinosaur so be it. No way this team/formation wouldn’t do better than what we are currently doing.
Walton
KVY. Burgess Edmundson Penny/Coulson
Burns (if fit) Morsy El Miz. Celina
Bonne Pig/Norwood |  |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:09 - Dec 9 with 888 views | billlm |
That's 12 players good thinking gives us a chance, |  | | |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:10 - Dec 9 with 871 views | iamipswich |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:09 - Dec 9 by billlm |
That's 12 players good thinking gives us a chance, |
Burns/Aluko
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:10 - Dec 9 with 871 views | billlm |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:09 - Dec 9 by billlm |
That's 12 players good thinking gives us a chance, |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:41 - Dec 9 with 760 views | NthQldITFC |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:29 - Dec 9 by itfcsuth |
My preference with this squad would be a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-2-1.
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Pigott - Chaplin
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Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Chaplin - Celina
Pigott |
I've been thinking along similar lines. The big choices are 2 or 3 centre-backs, and 1 or 2 out-and-out strikers.
On the former, I don't think we have a pair that is solid enough AND good enough on the ball to play with a high base. So we get pushed back, stretched out, lose cohesion and take any pressure off the opposition. Therefore I'd go with 3 as well, but I'd use Woolfenden instead of Burgess. Edmundson generally 'captains' that three from the middle and Donacien and Woolfy are good enough on the ball to provide the passing options.
Wing backs Burns and KVY perfect (Penney and Coulson as cover).
Evidence tends to suggest we're not really making it work with one up top, supported by a three so I'd go big man/little man combo from Bonne/Pigott with Chaplin/Celina and probably get those pairs playing really high tempo by consistently swapping them (subs) after 60 minutes or so.
This can leave a midfield three with energy from Morsy and El Miz, and give Fraser more freedom to play his slower passing game.
3-5-2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Woolfy
Burns - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Bonne - Chaplin (> Pigott - Celina early swap)
Like you, a second similar formation based on the same, solid back three plus wing backs, has Fraser drop out (or maybe push forward) and two dynamic number tens behind (but not too bloody far away from) a lone striker - an easy change to make in-game without disrupting our defensive shape, whilst providing a totally different problem for the opposition defence:
3-4-2-1~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Woolfy
Burns - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Celina - Chaplin
Bonne
Still got a number of other quality subs as well. Aluko could probably play three roles in there with high competence. Toto, Carroll, Burgess on top of the others mentioned above.
EDIT: One 'g' in Pigott, there's only one 'g' in Pigott! [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 16:01]
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 13:33 - Dec 9 with 690 views | 3_5_2 |
352 for me. |  |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 13:33 - Dec 9 with 685 views | NthQldITFC |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 13:33 - Dec 9 by 3_5_2 |
352 for me. |
Nominative determinism at work. | |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 13:41 - Dec 9 with 673 views | CrockerITFC |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:29 - Dec 9 by itfcsuth |
My preference with this squad would be a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-2-1.
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Pigott - Chaplin
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Chaplin - Celina
Pigott |
I'd go with your 352 but I think Penny would be a better fit than KVY. A 352 is made for someone like Penny to play left wing |  | | |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 13:43 - Dec 9 with 670 views | StokieBlue |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 11:29 - Dec 9 by itfcsuth |
My preference with this squad would be a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-2-1.
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Pigott - Chaplin
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Burgess
Burns - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Chaplin - Celina
Pigott |
Chaplin shouldn't be playing ahead of Celina, the performances just don't back that up.
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 15:07 - Dec 9 with 606 views | DavoIPB |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 13:41 - Dec 9 by CrockerITFC |
I'd go with your 352 but I think Penny would be a better fit than KVY. A 352 is made for someone like Penny to play left wing |
Yeah but penny can't cross or pass the ball. | | | |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 15:16 - Dec 9 with 582 views | Metal_Hacker |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 12:41 - Dec 9 by NthQldITFC |
I've been thinking along similar lines. The big choices are 2 or 3 centre-backs, and 1 or 2 out-and-out strikers.
On the former, I don't think we have a pair that is solid enough AND good enough on the ball to play with a high base. So we get pushed back, stretched out, lose cohesion and take any pressure off the opposition. Therefore I'd go with 3 as well, but I'd use Woolfenden instead of Burgess. Edmundson generally 'captains' that three from the middle and Donacien and Woolfy are good enough on the ball to provide the passing options.
Wing backs Burns and KVY perfect (Penney and Coulson as cover).
Evidence tends to suggest we're not really making it work with one up top, supported by a three so I'd go big man/little man combo from Bonne/Pigott with Chaplin/Celina and probably get those pairs playing really high tempo by consistently swapping them (subs) after 60 minutes or so.
This can leave a midfield three with energy from Morsy and El Miz, and give Fraser more freedom to play his slower passing game.
3-5-2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Woolfy
Burns - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Bonne - Chaplin (> Pigott - Celina early swap)
Like you, a second similar formation based on the same, solid back three plus wing backs, has Fraser drop out (or maybe push forward) and two dynamic number tens behind (but not too bloody far away from) a lone striker - an easy change to make in-game without disrupting our defensive shape, whilst providing a totally different problem for the opposition defence:
3-4-2-1~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Woolfy
Burns - Morsy - El Miz - KVY
Celina - Chaplin
Bonne
Still got a number of other quality subs as well. Aluko could probably play three roles in there with high competence. Toto, Carroll, Burgess on top of the others mentioned above.
EDIT: One 'g' in Pigott, there's only one 'g' in Pigott! [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 16:01]
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3-5-2 - 100% this team for me
Great minds and all that
Fits everyone perfectly , nice balance , Fraser has support of a little steel with both El Miz and Morsy ,we've got two up top with Chaplin dropping a little deeper if need be ,The Fridge directing defensively from the back ,ball playing Wolfy helping out
Definitely works for me
Only concern is not starting Celina |  |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 15:34 - Dec 9 with 544 views | NthQldITFC |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 15:16 - Dec 9 by Metal_Hacker |
3-5-2 - 100% this team for me
Great minds and all that
Fits everyone perfectly , nice balance , Fraser has support of a little steel with both El Miz and Morsy ,we've got two up top with Chaplin dropping a little deeper if need be ,The Fridge directing defensively from the back ,ball playing Wolfy helping out
Definitely works for me
Only concern is not starting Celina |
I'd see Chaplin and Celina as interchangeable, similarly Bonne and Piggott, so could just as well be Bonne and Celina to start, or Piggott and Celina depending on the subtleties of the oppositions defence, perhaps.
Main thing for me with that is that the starting two pretty much know that they are going to come off (not always but more often than not, depending on the game) after 60 minutes or so, so hit it really hard for those 60 minutes. Then the other two hit it hard for 30 minutes , trying to get the 60 minute slot next week.
I think it works for us, because they are all players of very high quality for this division, and it also avoids the situation of poor old Piggy not being able to get a game. It's the sort of idea that I think could really put the team on the front foot. | |
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| I'd go 4-3-3 on 15:36 - Dec 9 with 533 views | Metal_Hacker |
| I'd go 4-3-3 on 15:34 - Dec 9 by NthQldITFC |
I'd see Chaplin and Celina as interchangeable, similarly Bonne and Piggott, so could just as well be Bonne and Celina to start, or Piggott and Celina depending on the subtleties of the oppositions defence, perhaps.
Main thing for me with that is that the starting two pretty much know that they are going to come off (not always but more often than not, depending on the game) after 60 minutes or so, so hit it really hard for those 60 minutes. Then the other two hit it hard for 30 minutes , trying to get the 60 minute slot next week.
I think it works for us, because they are all players of very high quality for this division, and it also avoids the situation of poor old Piggy not being able to get a game. It's the sort of idea that I think could really put the team on the front foot. |
I've no issue with any of that - same mindset
Would love to see it but not sure we will , we can hope !!! | |
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