| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' 16:56 - Dec 30 with 3877 views | BlueBadger |
Use your GP and 111 where you can, kids. |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 17:51 - Dec 30 with 2368 views | Edmundo |
The total number of NHS hospital beds in England has more than halved over the past 30 years, from around 299,000 in 1987/88 to 141,000 in 2019/20, while the number of patients treated has increased significantly. (Source: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/nhs-hospital-bed-numbers)
Cheers Tories and New Labour. |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 17:59 - Dec 30 with 2322 views | XYZ |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 17:51 - Dec 30 by Edmundo |
The total number of NHS hospital beds in England has more than halved over the past 30 years, from around 299,000 in 1987/88 to 141,000 in 2019/20, while the number of patients treated has increased significantly. (Source: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/nhs-hospital-bed-numbers)
Cheers Tories and New Labour. |
New Labour, lol. |  | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 18:25 - Dec 30 with 2262 views | Darth_Koont |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 17:59 - Dec 30 by XYZ |
New Labour, lol. |
To be fair, hospital beds have been going down irrespective of who’s in power.
For a nation that isn’t that healthy or switched on about preventive health then that’s not ideal. Some might call it optimization or just-in-time healthcare but doesn’t help us cope with the unexpected. |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 18:27 - Dec 30 with 2246 views | footers |
Yes, but wait until the University of Life graduates clock in and tell you that you're wrong and we should just let it rip because 'football' or something. |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 18:35 - Dec 30 with 2204 views | XYZ |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 18:25 - Dec 30 by Darth_Koont |
To be fair, hospital beds have been going down irrespective of who’s in power.
For a nation that isn’t that healthy or switched on about preventive health then that’s not ideal. Some might call it optimization or just-in-time healthcare but doesn’t help us cope with the unexpected. |
Advances in tech and medicine reduced the need for beds - shorter hospital stays are better for recovery - Labour put a massive investment into the NHS and it was in as decent a state in 2010 as it has been in sixty years. It's a massive shame a lot of it was done through costly PPI schemes.
They also had an active and funded pandemic plan in place.
Then 2010 happened.
Two very different stories. | | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:04 - Dec 30 with 2122 views | Darth_Koont |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 18:35 - Dec 30 by XYZ |
Advances in tech and medicine reduced the need for beds - shorter hospital stays are better for recovery - Labour put a massive investment into the NHS and it was in as decent a state in 2010 as it has been in sixty years. It's a massive shame a lot of it was done through costly PPI schemes.
They also had an active and funded pandemic plan in place.
Then 2010 happened.
Two very different stories. |
There’s degrees certainly – and it’s in the last 10 years that the dropping level will have really hit home.
But even with global advances for decades we’ve had fewer hospital beds (and the staff to man them) than almost all other developed countries. It’s been a choice. | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:09 - Dec 30 with 2091 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 17:51 - Dec 30 by Edmundo |
The total number of NHS hospital beds in England has more than halved over the past 30 years, from around 299,000 in 1987/88 to 141,000 in 2019/20, while the number of patients treated has increased significantly. (Source: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/nhs-hospital-bed-numbers)
Cheers Tories and New Labour. |
Defund, demoralise, privatise.
£350M more per week. Never forget. Do not trust this government. |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:31 - Dec 30 with 2012 views | Freddies_Ears |
Any reason why there has been no update on Covid hospital numbers for over a week? | | | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:45 - Dec 30 with 1975 views | Basuco |
Massive staff shortages due to rampant covid infection in hospitals, combined with no available beds, it looks very much like the Government gamble on herd immunity has gone very horribly wrong, as the science has repeatedly stated, vaccine alone will not be enough. Stay safe everyone and avoid the need for a visit to A&E if at all possible. I wonder what the answer could be? |  | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:47 - Dec 30 with 1960 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:31 - Dec 30 by Freddies_Ears |
Any reason why there has been no update on Covid hospital numbers for over a week? |
Data here up to yesterday.
https://data.spectator.co.uk/category/national |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:01 - Dec 30 with 1925 views | Pinewoodblue |
Clearly states a three day lag in the hospital figures, although other sources indicate lag is 5 days.
The alarming stat, on the link you provided, is number of positive cases showing up 7 days after hospital admission. This figure is just for London hospitals. |  |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:02 - Dec 30 with 1915 views | DublinBlue84 |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:31 - Dec 30 by Freddies_Ears |
Any reason why there has been no update on Covid hospital numbers for over a week? |
There's some very strange stuff going on with the COVID dashboard in terms of updates.
There has been patchy reporting in terms of data because of Christmas and the bank holidays that have followed and NHS England hadn't reported any deaths at all between 24th and 29th December which is why the figures are so low.
However around lunchtime NHS England published a load of data in terms of hospitalisations and deaths which has caught up the backlog yet the COVID dashboard still claims it cannot be updated because of a delay in NHS England releasing the data.
NHS England reported an additional 365 deaths between 4pm on 24th December and 4pm on 29th December. See below for the raw data.
NHS England Deaths (see COVID 19 daily announced deaths 25-30 December 2021 file)
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deat
NHS England Daily Admissions (See Daily Admissions and Beds 30 December 2021 file)
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-a [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 20:06]
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:20 - Dec 30 with 1832 views | MattinLondon |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 18:27 - Dec 30 by footers |
Yes, but wait until the University of Life graduates clock in and tell you that you're wrong and we should just let it rip because 'football' or something. |
The University of Life is now a Higher Education College.
The School of Hard Knocks failed it’s Ofsted and is now an Academy.
Whoever went to both tends to be a tvvat. |  | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:22 - Dec 30 with 1815 views | footers |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 17:59 - Dec 30 by XYZ |
New Labour, lol. |
PFI, lol. | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:33 - Dec 30 with 1752 views | MattinLondon |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:22 - Dec 30 by footers |
PFI, lol. |
PFI is quite a good idea but mismanaged. Both Labour and the Tories like the theory behind it but blame each other for its poor handling. | | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:43 - Dec 30 with 1709 views | boom_boom_boom |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:33 - Dec 30 by MattinLondon |
PFI is quite a good idea but mismanaged. Both Labour and the Tories like the theory behind it but blame each other for its poor handling. |
Please explain how it was a good idea. Thank you. | | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:47 - Dec 30 with 1687 views | footers |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:33 - Dec 30 by MattinLondon |
PFI is quite a good idea but mismanaged. Both Labour and the Tories like the theory behind it but blame each other for its poor handling. |
Did you buy all your stufff from BrightHouse?
In what way is it a good idea? It's an awful idea. | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:51 - Dec 30 with 1660 views | MattinLondon |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:47 - Dec 30 by footers |
Did you buy all your stufff from BrightHouse?
In what way is it a good idea? It's an awful idea. |
No, it’s not. | | | |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:00 - Dec 30 with 1621 views | footers |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:51 - Dec 30 by MattinLondon |
No, it’s not. |
Explain how lumbering a publicly funded health service with massive amounts of private debt is a good idea, please.
Most of these contracts run for a good 50 years, so I'd be interested in the actual benefit of them versus simply paying for the hospitals up front. | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:00 - Dec 30 with 1617 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 20:01 - Dec 30 by Pinewoodblue |
Clearly states a three day lag in the hospital figures, although other sources indicate lag is 5 days.
The alarming stat, on the link you provided, is number of positive cases showing up 7 days after hospital admission. This figure is just for London hospitals. |
From today's official figures. hospital numbers are as at 24th December.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:17 - Dec 30 with 1571 views | BlueBadger |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 19:45 - Dec 30 by Basuco |
Massive staff shortages due to rampant covid infection in hospitals, combined with no available beds, it looks very much like the Government gamble on herd immunity has gone very horribly wrong, as the science has repeatedly stated, vaccine alone will not be enough. Stay safe everyone and avoid the need for a visit to A&E if at all possible. I wonder what the answer could be? |
Not just that but government policy since 2010 in general and 2016, in particular, has resulted in massive numbers of nurses leaving the profession. | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:19 - Dec 30 with 1542 views | DublinBlue84 |
As posted upthread, there are hospital admission figures released by NHS England today,, however they are not showing on the Government dashboard.
It's also strange that the UK death figure is 332 (317 England) on the dashboard, when NHS England alone announced 365 today. It suggests that the dashboard is still lagging in deaths. [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 21:24]
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:24 - Dec 30 with 1517 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:00 - Dec 30 by footers |
Explain how lumbering a publicly funded health service with massive amounts of private debt is a good idea, please.
Most of these contracts run for a good 50 years, so I'd be interested in the actual benefit of them versus simply paying for the hospitals up front. |
PFI would be a good idea if the Government were bankrupt and had no access to capital. Instead, the Government can raise as much as it wants to (when it wants to pay its friends).
The only people to benefit from PFI are the private companies profiting from investing in public services.
It is like saying you are better off taking a 2.5% loan over 20 years for a new car instead of paying up front because you won't have to spend £10K on the car when in fact you have £20K in your bank at 0.25% interest rate. Even before realising you then have to pay a further 2.5% insurance in case you can't pay the loan back. PFI is, was and always will be a dreadful idea for any but a bankrupt Government. | |
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| Hospital bed state in the region is presently bed described as 'very dark black' on 21:27 - Dec 30 with 1499 views | Seablu |
The Spectator.
Lol.
If it quacks like a tory duck moat…. [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 21:31]
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