| Bradford Flare 14:26 - Aug 14 with 5831 views | Swailsey |
“Bradford City 'sickened' by use of pyrotechnics after fan injured at game”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62540778
I dislike them anyway and think they’re pretty selfish and dangerous for those with asthma/COPD etc, but this, especially given Bradford’s history is so, so poor. [Post edited 14 Aug 2022 14:29]
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| Bradford Flare on 14:37 - Aug 14 with 3492 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Even worse than Col U "fans" throwing seats that hit their own supporters.
A rather ironic name for the Chief Exec there. |  |
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| Bradford Flare on 14:38 - Aug 14 with 3486 views | cbower |
Some will maintain a flare or smoke bomb adds to the atmosphere. Not for me. Having witnessed the effects of fire, fireworks and smoke on human beings in the flesh, I think deploying them in a crowd is ridiculous and worthy of a custodial sentence. Many will disagree I'm sure and say I'm a killjoy but let's hope they never witness someone with burned flesh and permanent scars for 5he sake of a better atmosphere. |  |
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| Bradford Flare on 14:41 - Aug 14 with 3458 views | Swailsey |
| Bradford Flare on 14:38 - Aug 14 by cbower |
Some will maintain a flare or smoke bomb adds to the atmosphere. Not for me. Having witnessed the effects of fire, fireworks and smoke on human beings in the flesh, I think deploying them in a crowd is ridiculous and worthy of a custodial sentence. Many will disagree I'm sure and say I'm a killjoy but let's hope they never witness someone with burned flesh and permanent scars for 5he sake of a better atmosphere. |
You’re not alone:
https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/flares.6415/ | |
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| Bradford Flare on 15:30 - Aug 14 with 3251 views | jontysnut |
| Bradford Flare on 14:38 - Aug 14 by cbower |
Some will maintain a flare or smoke bomb adds to the atmosphere. Not for me. Having witnessed the effects of fire, fireworks and smoke on human beings in the flesh, I think deploying them in a crowd is ridiculous and worthy of a custodial sentence. Many will disagree I'm sure and say I'm a killjoy but let's hope they never witness someone with burned flesh and permanent scars for 5he sake of a better atmosphere. |
I was at a Tranmere v Forest Green last season and some kids launched fireworks towards the opposing keeper. They were rightly subject to a full and frank exchange of views from other fans. |  | | |
| Bradford Flare on 15:34 - Aug 14 with 3231 views | Plums |
Lots of justified anger there.
On another point, one visit to that site highlights just how lucky we are with the TWTD platform Gav and Phil have put together for us. |  |
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| Bradford Flare on 15:39 - Aug 14 with 3201 views | Swailsey |
| Bradford Flare on 15:34 - Aug 14 by Plums |
Lots of justified anger there.
On another point, one visit to that site highlights just how lucky we are with the TWTD platform Gav and Phil have put together for us. |
Hahaha I thought that too | |
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| Bradford Flare on 15:44 - Aug 14 with 3186 views | Illinoisblue |
| Bradford Flare on 15:34 - Aug 14 by Plums |
Lots of justified anger there.
On another point, one visit to that site highlights just how lucky we are with the TWTD platform Gav and Phil have put together for us. |
I never realised there was once a serious fire at Forest’s City Ground in 1968:
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| Bradford Flare on 15:49 - Aug 14 with 3155 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bradford Flare on 15:44 - Aug 14 by Illinoisblue |
I never realised there was once a serious fire at Forest’s City Ground in 1968:
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Is the last picture after the fire was out? Are fans back in the stand? Seems remarkable that the fire could have got hold like that and everyone got out fine. Clearly helped by being before the advent of cages, fencing, etc due to hooliganism. | |
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| Bradford Flare on 16:22 - Aug 14 with 3072 views | HighgateBlue |
Absolutely.
I have been consistently criticising the increasing instances of this dangerous and criminal behaviour, and saying that pretty soon there will be injuries amongst innocent fans. Sadly many have been content to laugh it off and say that 'a bit of pyro' is nothing to worry about.
Intentionally committing dangerous crimes should result in hefty bans, regardless of whether an injury is caused. This has got to be stamped out. Who wants to put their kids into this sort of scenario? |  | | |
| Bradford Flare on 16:30 - Aug 14 with 3044 views | dominiciawful |
| Bradford Flare on 15:49 - Aug 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is the last picture after the fire was out? Are fans back in the stand? Seems remarkable that the fire could have got hold like that and everyone got out fine. Clearly helped by being before the advent of cages, fencing, etc due to hooliganism. |
I dread to think what the death toll at Valley Parade would have been if that main stand had fencing along the front of it. |  |
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| Bradford Flare on 16:39 - Aug 14 with 2988 views | MattinLondon |
I do like pyros at matches and I think they add to the colour and atmosphere. |  | | |
| Bradford Flare on 16:42 - Aug 14 with 2977 views | PJH |
| Bradford Flare on 15:44 - Aug 14 by Illinoisblue |
I never realised there was once a serious fire at Forest’s City Ground in 1968:
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We played and beat Notts Forest at Notts County's ground in October after that. They played six 'home' games on neutral grounds. Don't know if they were all at Meadow Lane. |  | | |
| Bradford Flare on 16:42 - Aug 14 with 2974 views | Swailsey |
| Bradford Flare on 16:39 - Aug 14 by MattinLondon |
I do like pyros at matches and I think they add to the colour and atmosphere. |
But do you think it’s good they hit people in the arm? | |
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| Bradford Flare on 16:55 - Aug 14 with 2908 views | MattinLondon |
| Bradford Flare on 16:42 - Aug 14 by Swailsey |
But do you think it’s good they hit people in the arm? |
Of course not. | | | |
| Bradford Flare on 17:31 - Aug 14 with 2783 views | Swailsey |
| Bradford Flare on 16:55 - Aug 14 by MattinLondon |
Of course not. |
Interesting downvote then fella! | |
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| Bradford Flare on 17:54 - Aug 14 with 2717 views | MattinLondon |
| Bradford Flare on 17:31 - Aug 14 by Swailsey |
Interesting downvote then fella! |
I was down voting the ‘selfish’ comment. | | | |
| Bradford Flare on 19:50 - Aug 14 with 2454 views | AlanG296 |
| Bradford Flare on 17:54 - Aug 14 by MattinLondon |
I was down voting the ‘selfish’ comment. |
They Are selfish! |  | | |
| Bradford Flare on 20:35 - Aug 14 with 2393 views | Hipsterectomy |
the usual people who celebrate flares as being part of the banter atmosphere are missing in here |  |
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| Bradford Flare on 20:39 - Aug 14 with 2379 views | MattinLondon |
| Bradford Flare on 19:50 - Aug 14 by AlanG296 |
They Are selfish! |
No they’re not. | | | |
| Bradford Flare on 20:49 - Aug 14 with 2330 views | MattinLondon |
| Bradford Flare on 20:35 - Aug 14 by Hipsterectomy |
the usual people who celebrate flares as being part of the banter atmosphere are missing in here |
Instead there’s simply an abundance of miserable sods. | | | |
| Bradford Flare on 21:03 - Aug 14 with 2295 views | ITFC_Forever |
I personally don’t mind them and see why people think they add to the atmosphere.
But that is outweighed by sympathy for those who for medical reasons aren’t able to be so tolerant, and of course throwing them is wrong.
But on a more general point about them, aren’t there different types? The usual smoke flares, which while letting off the smoke etc, aren’t actually that hot, and the full on fire ones, which clearly are very hot and therefore have that added danger? |  |
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| Bradford Flare on 21:37 - Aug 14 with 2228 views | Swailsey |
| Bradford Flare on 20:49 - Aug 14 by MattinLondon |
Instead there’s simply an abundance of miserable sods. |
Edit: Not worth it. [Post edited 14 Aug 2022 21:41]
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| Bradford Flare on 22:03 - Aug 14 with 2178 views | Slambo |
It's so disappointing reading the comments when a thread on this topic comes up. Many people think pyro augments the atmosphere and ambience at football matches. No-one can fail to be moved at the sight of a packed end in one of Europe's big leagues, with flags and smoke billowing, illuminated by flares. Why can't legislators work with these fans and find a way to safely incorporate pyro into the matchday experience and create something we can ALL enjoy?
As with Prohibition in the US, criminalising an act - particularly a 'victimless' crime that loses legitimacy in the eyes of the populace - just drives it underground into the hands of irresponsible people, makes it more dangerous and harder to control. That lad at Bradford lobbed the flare (or smoke bomb, two very distinct things) because if he'd been caught with it he'd have received a punishment outrageously disproportionate to the offence. How much serious harm (when used sensibly, of course) does pyro actually cause? There must be reams of data from the continent where their use is far more widespread. Surely we should be inundated with stories of stadium fires and horrible burns injuries from the Bundesliga?
I'd have 'pyro zones' at the front of the North lower. Only one person at a time, with buckets of water and sand with a fire marshall nearby. Any fan who enters has to have had some kind of fire safety training/training in handling pyro. They manage it in MLS for crying out loud, in one of the most risk adverse countries in the world... |  |
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