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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? 13:05 - Oct 21 with 1680 viewsElderGrizzly

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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:20 - Oct 21 with 1610 viewsMookamoo

Its like supporters wanting the return of a former manager when 20 pts adrift at the bottom of the league while there is stall a mathematical chance of survival.

He is correct though, Johnson did have the mandate, for whatever that's worth now and he would stand a better chance than any of the candidates with voters.

It's an absolutely absurd idea, but they'll go for Johnson
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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:29 - Oct 21 with 1578 viewsSwansea_Blue

They've got their slogan right on this one. It's hard to counter the mandate claim since they're still standing on his manifesto, and he wasn't replaced through a public vote.

Bat sh*t crazy idea, but I can see it flying in the Tory Party. I think they'll have a shock if they do it though, as his approval levels were rock bottom with the public. There'll be MP resistance too, although I'm sure they could be persuaded to change their principles. In the cold light of day those saying they'd resign the whip probably won't once it's their jobs on the line.

But stranger things have happened; maybe just be being away he'll have regained some public support. We mock and right this off at our peril imo.

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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:34 - Oct 21 with 1513 viewsFixed_It

Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:20 - Oct 21 by Mookamoo

Its like supporters wanting the return of a former manager when 20 pts adrift at the bottom of the league while there is stall a mathematical chance of survival.

He is correct though, Johnson did have the mandate, for whatever that's worth now and he would stand a better chance than any of the candidates with voters.

It's an absolutely absurd idea, but they'll go for Johnson


Absurd, and makes an even bigger mockery of this country on the world stage.
And if that wasn't bad enough it'd probably embolden Trump as well.
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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:35 - Oct 21 with 1515 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:29 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue

They've got their slogan right on this one. It's hard to counter the mandate claim since they're still standing on his manifesto, and he wasn't replaced through a public vote.

Bat sh*t crazy idea, but I can see it flying in the Tory Party. I think they'll have a shock if they do it though, as his approval levels were rock bottom with the public. There'll be MP resistance too, although I'm sure they could be persuaded to change their principles. In the cold light of day those saying they'd resign the whip probably won't once it's their jobs on the line.

But stranger things have happened; maybe just be being away he'll have regained some public support. We mock and right this off at our peril imo.


This is a group of people that thought Truss was competent enough to run one of the worlds biggest economies. They also perceived her to be electable.

They have worse judgment than Marcus Evans.
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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 14:08 - Oct 21 with 1403 viewsMookamoo

Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:29 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue

They've got their slogan right on this one. It's hard to counter the mandate claim since they're still standing on his manifesto, and he wasn't replaced through a public vote.

Bat sh*t crazy idea, but I can see it flying in the Tory Party. I think they'll have a shock if they do it though, as his approval levels were rock bottom with the public. There'll be MP resistance too, although I'm sure they could be persuaded to change their principles. In the cold light of day those saying they'd resign the whip probably won't once it's their jobs on the line.

But stranger things have happened; maybe just be being away he'll have regained some public support. We mock and right this off at our peril imo.


I don't think they've got much to lose. There are about 200 MPs all about to be unemployed*. If Johnson can claw back 10 points in the polls then 80 odd might just survive. They're going to lose the next election, it's now a matter of by how much.

They're going to choose the hail mary and see if Johnson can bluster his way through the next election with minimal damage.

*by unemployed, I mean go and take up a board seat for whatever company that has them in their pocket.
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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 15:04 - Oct 21 with 1305 viewsElephantintheRoom

He’s always been nice but dim in his public persona. Now he’s shown himself to be not very nice and extremely dim

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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 15:33 - Oct 21 with 1227 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

As at late this morning:

Ben Wallace (“leaning towards”)
Simon Clarke
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Paul Bristow
Nadine Dorries
James Duddridge
Brendan Clarke-Smith
Stephen McPartland
Michael Fabricant
Marco Longhi
Andrew Stephenson
Andrea Jenkyns
Lia Nici
Amanda Milling
Christopher Chope
Shaun Bailey
Andrew Rosindell
Karl McCartney
David Morris
Peter Bone
Holly Mumby-Croft
Jane Hunt
Scott Benton

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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 15:37 - Oct 21 with 1214 viewsreusersfreekicks

Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 15:33 - Oct 21 by You_Bloo_Right

As at late this morning:

Ben Wallace (“leaning towards”)
Simon Clarke
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Paul Bristow
Nadine Dorries
James Duddridge
Brendan Clarke-Smith
Stephen McPartland
Michael Fabricant
Marco Longhi
Andrew Stephenson
Andrea Jenkyns
Lia Nici
Amanda Milling
Christopher Chope
Shaun Bailey
Andrew Rosindell
Karl McCartney
David Morris
Peter Bone
Holly Mumby-Croft
Jane Hunt
Scott Benton


A plague on all of them
Such contempt for the British people
f@ck em
May they all lose at the next election and get deported as enemies of the state
Sh1ts
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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 15:46 - Oct 21 with 1145 viewsStokieBlue

Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 15:37 - Oct 21 by reusersfreekicks

A plague on all of them
Such contempt for the British people
f@ck em
May they all lose at the next election and get deported as enemies of the state
Sh1ts


It's like some form of collective Stockholm syndrome.

How anyone can think that Boris is the answer is beyond words.

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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 18:03 - Oct 21 with 1039 viewsfactual_blue

I think he's always been like that, so no.

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Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 18:09 - Oct 21 with 1020 viewstractordownsouth

Has Ben Wallace had a lobotomy? on 13:29 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue

They've got their slogan right on this one. It's hard to counter the mandate claim since they're still standing on his manifesto, and he wasn't replaced through a public vote.

Bat sh*t crazy idea, but I can see it flying in the Tory Party. I think they'll have a shock if they do it though, as his approval levels were rock bottom with the public. There'll be MP resistance too, although I'm sure they could be persuaded to change their principles. In the cold light of day those saying they'd resign the whip probably won't once it's their jobs on the line.

But stranger things have happened; maybe just be being away he'll have regained some public support. We mock and right this off at our peril imo.


Rob Ford (politics professor) made a good point too. Johnson was never popular (his poll ratings in 2019 were lower than May's in 2017) he got lucky that the Brexit issue benefitted the Tories under FPTP and he was running against a Labour leader who was even more disliked than he was.

Now add in the lockdown parties tanking Johnson's personal approval and the Tories' reputation of economic competence being shattered and they won't be able to recreate the magic. It'll be similar to how Corbyn tanked between 2017 and 2019.

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