| Therese Coffey 09:14 - Feb 6 with 1833 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
Says the government is dropping its ban on importing fur and foie gras, and that she wants to be 'the voice of the countryside'.
Admits 'animal welfare is very important' but 'right now... we need to think through priorities'.
Does she mean the priority of pleasing a few rich Tory voters who live in the countryside?
The cynic in me thinks that maybe they don't actually consider animal welfare to be as important as they say they do.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/02/04/therese-coffey-drops-import-ban- [Post edited 6 Feb 2023 9:43]
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| Therese Coffey on 09:18 - Feb 6 with 1789 views | DJR |
Carrie won't be pleased as I think this was one of her hobby horses. |  | | |
| Therese Coffey on 09:19 - Feb 6 with 1787 views | J2BLUE |
Feels like they know they are done and are just openly doing everything they can for themselves and their friends. |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:19 - Feb 6 with 1784 views | DanTheMan |
What I don't get with this is that it's all well and good having the strong animal welfare standards here, but if you ban something and then allow imports, all you've done is shift where the damage is being done. |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:23 - Feb 6 with 1765 views | GeoffSentence |
To be generous to her, and that does go against the grain, the article suggests that she thinks there is not enough time to get all the proposed legislation through so there are some things that won't get done.
Given that this ramshackle mob of charlatans, liars and crooks has less than two years before they are ejected from office, she's probably right. |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:28 - Feb 6 with 1722 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Therese Coffey on 09:19 - Feb 6 by J2BLUE |
Feels like they know they are done and are just openly doing everything they can for themselves and their friends. |
I can't understand how people can be so morally depraved.
Just absolutely zero decency, empathy or concern.
What's scariest is that there are swarms of them out there. IMO someone being a Tory has become a true red flag. I'm not sure if there are any redeeming qualities. | |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:30 - Feb 6 with 1718 views | Guthrum |
Is there much (any) fur and foie gras farming in the British countryside*? Is there much of a market for it nowadays, either?
It's as obsolescent as trying to revive coal mining ... oh.
* Especially since the demise of mink farms. [Post edited 6 Feb 2023 9:33]
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| Therese Coffey on 09:30 - Feb 6 with 1709 views | GeoffSentence |
| Therese Coffey on 09:28 - Feb 6 by ThisIsMyUsername |
I can't understand how people can be so morally depraved.
Just absolutely zero decency, empathy or concern.
What's scariest is that there are swarms of them out there. IMO someone being a Tory has become a true red flag. I'm not sure if there are any redeeming qualities. |
swarms? tut-tut, that's dehumanising. | |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:45 - Feb 6 with 1624 views | DJR |
Maybe some of their base are leave-voters living in France who own foie gras businesses.
After all, the wealthy haven't really been affected by the limitations of Brexit when it comes to living or working there. | | | |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:48 - Feb 6 with 1605 views | chicoazul |
I’m conflicted about fur. On the one hand poor animals. On the other hand the alternatives for coats blankets etc are largely very bad for the planet and animals are the ultimate renewable resource. |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:49 - Feb 6 with 1598 views | chicoazul |
| Therese Coffey on 09:19 - Feb 6 by DanTheMan |
What I don't get with this is that it's all well and good having the strong animal welfare standards here, but if you ban something and then allow imports, all you've done is shift where the damage is being done. |
Very good point. | |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:50 - Feb 6 with 1589 views | Basuco |
| Therese Coffey on 09:45 - Feb 6 by DJR |
Maybe some of their base are leave-voters living in France who own foie gras businesses.
After all, the wealthy haven't really been affected by the limitations of Brexit when it comes to living or working there. |
More likely both her and the conservative party have received a large donation from vested interests to oil the wheels to make this happen. |  | | |
| Therese Coffey on 09:53 - Feb 6 with 1570 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Therese Coffey on 09:48 - Feb 6 by chicoazul |
I’m conflicted about fur. On the one hand poor animals. On the other hand the alternatives for coats blankets etc are largely very bad for the planet and animals are the ultimate renewable resource. |
Well if we focus more on the alternatives then due to climate change we won't need as many coats or blankets anyway in the future so it's a win-win for everyone. [Post edited 6 Feb 2023 9:53]
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| Therese Coffey on 09:54 - Feb 6 with 1558 views | NthQldITFC |
Scum. |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:58 - Feb 6 with 1539 views | BlueBadger |
| Therese Coffey on 09:54 - Feb 6 by NthQldITFC |
Scum. |
And what about Therese Coffey? |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 16:41 - Feb 6 with 1340 views | HARRY10 |
| Therese Coffey on 09:23 - Feb 6 by GeoffSentence |
To be generous to her, and that does go against the grain, the article suggests that she thinks there is not enough time to get all the proposed legislation through so there are some things that won't get done.
Given that this ramshackle mob of charlatans, liars and crooks has less than two years before they are ejected from office, she's probably right. |
Bills can be passed very quickly, see the anti strike stuff
And I doubt there would be any dissent, those against would be well aware that to object would not fit well, barring upskirt Chope and his creepy sidekick Peter Bonehead. It would go through 'on the nod' |  | | |
| Therese Coffey on 22:35 - Feb 6 with 1176 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Therese Coffey on 09:18 - Feb 6 by DJR |
Carrie won't be pleased as I think this was one of her hobby horses. |
One of her horses is being made into furs? I can understand why she won't be pleased.
This is just one small spark of the bonfire of regulations.
As someone said to me earlier, if you are planning something that requires you to leave the ECHR, whatever it is you are planning it isn't good. |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 07:54 - Feb 7 with 1036 views | DanTheMan |
| Therese Coffey on 22:35 - Feb 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
One of her horses is being made into furs? I can understand why she won't be pleased.
This is just one small spark of the bonfire of regulations.
As someone said to me earlier, if you are planning something that requires you to leave the ECHR, whatever it is you are planning it isn't good. |
Nonsense, by leaving the ECHR we'll be in excellent company with Russia, Belarus and... well just them but they are excellent company nonetheless. | |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:28 - Feb 7 with 956 views | DJR |
| Therese Coffey on 07:54 - Feb 7 by DanTheMan |
Nonsense, by leaving the ECHR we'll be in excellent company with Russia, Belarus and... well just them but they are excellent company nonetheless. |
Sadly many people confuse the ECHR with the EU and the ECJ, and were hoodwinked into believing that if we left the EU we would leave the ECHR.
The ECHR sets out rights that are fundamental in western liberal democracies, and draws on the post-war Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
The fact that first Johnson, then Truss and now Sunak are even contemplating limiting, or withdrawing from, the Convention is an absolute disgrace for a party that is supposed to support the rule of law. In my view, it makes completely hypocritical our condemnation of the Chinese for what they are doing in Hong Kong, as does the anti-protest and anti-strike legislation they are bringing forward. [Post edited 7 Feb 2023 9:35]
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| Therese Coffey on 09:33 - Feb 7 with 947 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Therese Coffey on 09:18 - Feb 6 by DJR |
Carrie won't be pleased as I think this was one of her hobby horses. |
Oh well, she'll now be able to skin that horse and wear it as a coat! |  |
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| Therese Coffey on 09:49 - Feb 7 with 932 views | Whos_blue |
| Therese Coffey on 09:28 - Feb 7 by DJR |
Sadly many people confuse the ECHR with the EU and the ECJ, and were hoodwinked into believing that if we left the EU we would leave the ECHR.
The ECHR sets out rights that are fundamental in western liberal democracies, and draws on the post-war Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
The fact that first Johnson, then Truss and now Sunak are even contemplating limiting, or withdrawing from, the Convention is an absolute disgrace for a party that is supposed to support the rule of law. In my view, it makes completely hypocritical our condemnation of the Chinese for what they are doing in Hong Kong, as does the anti-protest and anti-strike legislation they are bringing forward. [Post edited 7 Feb 2023 9:35]
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Great post.
Sums up my thoughts entirely. |  |
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