| Someone please explain this Lineker 12:28 - Mar 13 with 2050 views | TalkingBlues |
thing to me.
Tell me if I have this wrong, but didn't the BBC, alongside Amnesty Intl etc etc etc actually encourage anybody and everybody getting air time on TV to speak out about migrant worker rights abuses in Qatar? Wasn't it the BBC who didn't air the opening ceremony, in favour of, errrrrrm, Gary Lineker doing a monologue about the abuses?
Forward wind a few months, our Government gives rise to another medieval approach to migrants/immigrants to the UK and, errrrrrm, Gary Lineker speaks out, but this time is condemned by the BBC and pulled off air.
Is that about right, or have I got this wrong? If it's right, then I'm struggling to see how the BBC cannot appreciate the perception to the public here, or indeed how they decided this was so different to other migrants rights that Lineker deserved to be hauled over the coals. Seems pretty clear to me (and probably many others) that the Govt are pulling the BBC strings on this one, which is INCREDIBLY damaging to an alleged independent organisation and of course, a breach of its Charter.
Is it time for the Beeb to go? Or does it need a massive overhaul? |  |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:31 - Mar 13 with 1989 views | dickie |
Or does it just need less influence/interference from the government? |  | | |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:32 - Mar 13 with 1983 views | Zx1988 |
The difference is that we (the UK) aren't friends with Qatar. Hence why you'll also see no negative coverage of Saudi human rights abuses. | |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:42 - Mar 13 with 1908 views | BlueBadger |
Nobody in the UK government has lucrative business arrangements with Qatar. |  |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:42 - Mar 13 with 1912 views | SmithersJones |
Your last sentence is one we might start to hear a lot more of as this unwinds. There was a Tory MP on 5Live this morning making some (on the surface) reasonable points about the difficulty and possibly undesirability of insisting on "impartiality" amongst freelancers, non news journalists etc. BUT he then went on to say the answer was for the BBC to lose its status as a state funded broadcaster. Worrying times ahead. | | | |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:44 - Mar 13 with 1894 views | TalkingBlues |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:31 - Mar 13 by dickie |
Or does it just need less influence/interference from the government? |
From what I can gather, the Director General and Chairman would appear to be rampant tories (the Chairman also being the PM's old boss from his Banker days) so there would appear to be rather an obvious trend amongst senior management which one could infer, might make it a little tricky to maintain "impartiality". | |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:46 - Mar 13 with 1867 views | Zx1988 |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:42 - Mar 13 by SmithersJones |
Your last sentence is one we might start to hear a lot more of as this unwinds. There was a Tory MP on 5Live this morning making some (on the surface) reasonable points about the difficulty and possibly undesirability of insisting on "impartiality" amongst freelancers, non news journalists etc. BUT he then went on to say the answer was for the BBC to lose its status as a state funded broadcaster. Worrying times ahead. |
Exactly.
This has played right into the Tories' hands. Given that those making the big decisions throughout will have been those with the demonstrable links to the Tory Party, one has to question the motivation behind this utter debacle. | |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:47 - Mar 13 with 1854 views | TalkingBlues |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:42 - Mar 13 by SmithersJones |
Your last sentence is one we might start to hear a lot more of as this unwinds. There was a Tory MP on 5Live this morning making some (on the surface) reasonable points about the difficulty and possibly undesirability of insisting on "impartiality" amongst freelancers, non news journalists etc. BUT he then went on to say the answer was for the BBC to lose its status as a state funded broadcaster. Worrying times ahead. |
Indeed and as per a post I just made below, it would probably make it rather tricky to maintain an organisation of impartiality, when those positioned at the very top appear to all come from the same background and viewpoints and who have strong ties and relationships with those currently running our Government. | |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:55 - Mar 13 with 1801 views | TalkingBlues |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:46 - Mar 13 by Zx1988 |
Exactly.
This has played right into the Tories' hands. Given that those making the big decisions throughout will have been those with the demonstrable links to the Tory Party, one has to question the motivation behind this utter debacle. |
This was in part what I was thinking too, I mean, surely they must have known how this would be received? On the other hand, it's such an obvious sabotage attempt that leads back to so many "tories at the top" that you think it can't possibly be the case, but then I remind myself of the sort of sh1te that the tories have been getting up to and I think "no, no, actually this is bang in line with the rest of the contemptuous actions we've seen over the last few years". | |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 13:12 - Mar 13 with 1745 views | WeWereZombies |
It is most certainly not time for the BBC 'to go', but it is most certainly time for this Conservative government to go. |  |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 13:16 - Mar 13 with 1722 views | brazil1982 |
GL's opening monologue for the Qatar WC was simply him listing some "controversies", almost as if someone else had written it for him. He didn't criticise the Qatar government, who were an employer of his ten years ago.
"‘From accusations of corruption in the bidding process to the treatment of migrant workers who built the stadiums where many lost their lives.
‘Homosexuality is illegal here, women’s rights and freedom of expression are in the spotlight. Also the decision six years ago to switch the World Cup from summer to winter."
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 13:18 - Mar 13 with 1714 views | brazil1982 |
GL's opening monologue for the Qatar WC was simply him listing some "controversies", almost as if someone else had written it for him. He didn't criticise the Qatar government, who were an employer of his ten years ago. Did he tweet much about this during the tournament?
"‘From accusations of corruption in the bidding process to the treatment of migrant workers who built the stadiums where many lost their lives.
‘Homosexuality is illegal here, women’s rights and freedom of expression are in the spotlight. Also the decision six years ago to switch the World Cup from summer to winter."
FWIW he should be free to communicate what he likes, by whatever means he feels appropriate. | | | |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 14:51 - Mar 13 with 1499 views | BlueBadger |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 13:16 - Mar 13 by brazil1982 |
GL's opening monologue for the Qatar WC was simply him listing some "controversies", almost as if someone else had written it for him. He didn't criticise the Qatar government, who were an employer of his ten years ago.
"‘From accusations of corruption in the bidding process to the treatment of migrant workers who built the stadiums where many lost their lives.
‘Homosexuality is illegal here, women’s rights and freedom of expression are in the spotlight. Also the decision six years ago to switch the World Cup from summer to winter."
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 18:29 - Mar 13 with 1225 views | Mullet |
Tories are hypocritical, lying, corrupt manbaby bastards who should be destroyed and never allowed a foothold in public life again.
Lineker isn't, so was used by them to illustrate this. |  |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 18:56 - Mar 13 with 1087 views | factual_blue |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 12:44 - Mar 13 by TalkingBlues |
From what I can gather, the Director General and Chairman would appear to be rampant tories (the Chairman also being the PM's old boss from his Banker days) so there would appear to be rather an obvious trend amongst senior management which one could infer, might make it a little tricky to maintain "impartiality". |
Do either of them know anything about broadcasting? |  |
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| Someone please explain this Lineker on 19:28 - Mar 13 with 981 views | Ryorry |
| Someone please explain this Lineker on 18:56 - Mar 13 by factual_blue |
Do either of them know anything about broadcasting? |
Bet they didn't read the words on the wall behind the statue of George Orwell that stands outside Broacasting House -
"If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
From Animal Farm. All very apt - "some animals are more equal than others" etc. |  |
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