| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 07:55 - Jul 30 with 3534 views | Herbivore |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66351785
No interest in doing what is right, only concerned with trying to bag a couple of extra seats at the next GE. Never mind that the world is on fire, let's row back on things that tackle emissions and roll it into the culture wars to try and pick up a few more votes. What an abject little turd he is. |  |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 08:14 - Jul 30 with 2484 views | DJR |
As always with the Tories, they tap into things which resonate emotionally with many people.
You end up with people who don't even live in London feeling very angry over ULEZ. Indeed so angry that the issue completely overrides any other issues, such as the fact that they might be waiting months for an operation.
Inheritance tax is another issue which gets people going, and according to a recent poll is the most unpopular tax. There has been talk of the Tories getting rid of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do something radical about it nearer the election. This could prove immensely popular, but the irony is that very few people who would support such a policy are anywhere near inheritance tax limits. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 8:18]
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 08:43 - Jul 30 with 2410 views | Herbivore |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 08:14 - Jul 30 by DJR |
As always with the Tories, they tap into things which resonate emotionally with many people.
You end up with people who don't even live in London feeling very angry over ULEZ. Indeed so angry that the issue completely overrides any other issues, such as the fact that they might be waiting months for an operation.
Inheritance tax is another issue which gets people going, and according to a recent poll is the most unpopular tax. There has been talk of the Tories getting rid of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do something radical about it nearer the election. This could prove immensely popular, but the irony is that very few people who would support such a policy are anywhere near inheritance tax limits. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 8:18]
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Inheritance tax over a certain level should be significantly higher, imo, but I recognise that puts me in the minority. This is yet another example of why winner takes all FPTP democracy is bad for the country. It creates a situation where political parties are willing to do things they know will be actively bad for the country (indeed, for the planet in some instances) in order to win a large enough minority share of the vote to stay in power. It's toxic and makes it almost impossible to achieve any kind of long term goal as a country. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 08:47 - Jul 30 with 2394 views | DJR |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 08:43 - Jul 30 by Herbivore |
Inheritance tax over a certain level should be significantly higher, imo, but I recognise that puts me in the minority. This is yet another example of why winner takes all FPTP democracy is bad for the country. It creates a situation where political parties are willing to do things they know will be actively bad for the country (indeed, for the planet in some instances) in order to win a large enough minority share of the vote to stay in power. It's toxic and makes it almost impossible to achieve any kind of long term goal as a country. |
Too true.
Incidentally, Thorsten Bell in today's Observer calls what I was describing the distraction disease.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/23/distraction-disease-we-do- | | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:11 - Jul 30 with 2328 views | Herbivore |
The Tories have been doing it with immigration and the EU for years but I think the public is getting desensitized to it now to some extent, they've over done it. Whenever you ask anyone to explain how it is that migrants or the EU have directly negatively impacted them or the many issues facing the country (low productivity, crumbling public services) I find they aren't really able to give any kind of answer. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:11 - Jul 30 with 2331 views | NthQldITFC |
I was going to post the same thing earlier, but let myself get temporarily disheartened.
Sunak (and his ilk) are what in earlier times would have been described as evil.
What else would you call someone elected to power who is not trying to save the lives of the people he represents in the face of an imminent and existential threat? |  |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:18 - Jul 30 with 2297 views | Herbivore |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:11 - Jul 30 by NthQldITFC |
I was going to post the same thing earlier, but let myself get temporarily disheartened.
Sunak (and his ilk) are what in earlier times would have been described as evil.
What else would you call someone elected to power who is not trying to save the lives of the people he represents in the face of an imminent and existential threat? |
The current Tory Party is clogged up with scum, utter scum. We should be able to say it, because it is patently true. The only reason we're not allowed to say it publicly is because it upsets their scum client journalist friends who represent the majority of our press. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:24 - Jul 30 with 2274 views | Dubtractor |
In my line of work, we've been waiting for the government to actually implement the relevant bits of the Environment Act for a few years now, and tbh its never going to happen with Sunak at the tiller. Years of work by hundreds/thousands of people, to prepare for implementation of some genuinely positive measures for the environment, and it'll all count for nothing because Sunak doesn't give a toss.
Our industry has grudging, through gritted teeth, respect for Gove as he was the one that was pushing it all forward, but that drive and ambition evaporated as he was moved around government. |  |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:33 - Jul 30 with 2252 views | USA |
I welcome a review of the LTN policy though. Absolutely absurd that they just start closing roads. Just waiting for Borrowdale Avenue to be next. |  |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:33 - Jul 30 with 2243 views | DJR |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:11 - Jul 30 by Herbivore |
The Tories have been doing it with immigration and the EU for years but I think the public is getting desensitized to it now to some extent, they've over done it. Whenever you ask anyone to explain how it is that migrants or the EU have directly negatively impacted them or the many issues facing the country (low productivity, crumbling public services) I find they aren't really able to give any kind of answer. |
The problem though is that if they find something isn't working, they merely move on to something else. And going into the next election the Tories will have lots of emotional issues to tap into, including the whole gamut of the culture wars. | | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:37 - Jul 30 with 2223 views | DJR |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:33 - Jul 30 by USA |
I welcome a review of the LTN policy though. Absolutely absurd that they just start closing roads. Just waiting for Borrowdale Avenue to be next. |
I would have thought that residents in LTNs are favourable towards them unless they prefer their roads being used as rat runs, and their children being scared to step outside their front door.
But the whole point of what Sunak is saying is really designed to fire up people throughout the country who are not in areas where LTNs are even an issue.
For reasons I can't fathom (and I am a motorist myself), so-called attacks on the motorist really get a lot of people going. [Post edited 30 Jul 2023 16:40]
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:38 - Jul 30 with 2211 views | eireblue |
Well this is easy to clear up, there have been quite a few reports on LTN’s.
Rishi could just be sent a couple to read.
Surely a PM that is all for efficiency and small Government won’t use tax payer money to repeat an exercise that has already be done in the private sector. |  | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:38 - Jul 30 with 2211 views | lowhouseblue |
i don't believe this one actually plays all that strongly with voters. people who live in the areas affected by these schemes on average like them. it's people who live in neighbouring areas who tend to complain and they're not a cohesive group. it's more about sunak trying to generate some positive headlines and trying to look active with practical stuff. we may not hear about this one again? it's mood music rather than anything that will change.
the bigger issue is that we still have people who think that driving your car(s) where you want and how you want is a fundamental human right. ditto with flying. the right to consume lots of petrol, and for it to be cheap enough that you can burn lots of it, is still huge for lots of people. which is very depressing in terms of climate policy. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:39 - Jul 30 with 2200 views | Churchman |
Interesting article. Thanks for posting the link.
Sunak? A weak little man whose incompetence shone through as Chancellor yet here he is, fiddling about in No 10 hoping, like Mr Micawber that something will turn up. |  | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:40 - Jul 30 with 2179 views | Herbivore |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:38 - Jul 30 by lowhouseblue |
i don't believe this one actually plays all that strongly with voters. people who live in the areas affected by these schemes on average like them. it's people who live in neighbouring areas who tend to complain and they're not a cohesive group. it's more about sunak trying to generate some positive headlines and trying to look active with practical stuff. we may not hear about this one again? it's mood music rather than anything that will change.
the bigger issue is that we still have people who think that driving your car(s) where you want and how you want is a fundamental human right. ditto with flying. the right to consume lots of petrol, and for it to be cheap enough that you can burn lots of it, is still huge for lots of people. which is very depressing in terms of climate policy. |
Agree on that final point in particular. We need a fundamental change in mindset away from private car ownership being the norm. Unfortunately, years of under investment in public transport in this country has reinforced the view that driving is essential when really it isn't, and certainty shouldn't be for most people. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:40 - Jul 30 with 2185 views | CBBlue |
Thoroughly depressing. It's just lucky that we haven't just been witnessing the effects of global warming and everything is just fine 
So transparent too - they managed to cling onto Uxbridge due to the Ulez issue so think this could be a big vote winner. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:10 - Jul 30 with 2106 views | eireblue |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:33 - Jul 30 by USA |
I welcome a review of the LTN policy though. Absolutely absurd that they just start closing roads. Just waiting for Borrowdale Avenue to be next. |
You are going to enjoy the Internet, you can search for existing reviews already done.
Here is one for you!
https://www.wearepossible.org/latest-news/ltns
Not only that, you will like this, the Government have already done some research.
Crikey, Rishi doesn’t know how to use Google.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attac
61% of residents approved! And 3/4 of people wanted reduction in traffic. | | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:13 - Jul 30 with 2087 views | Guthrum |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 09:40 - Jul 30 by Herbivore |
Agree on that final point in particular. We need a fundamental change in mindset away from private car ownership being the norm. Unfortunately, years of under investment in public transport in this country has reinforced the view that driving is essential when really it isn't, and certainty shouldn't be for most people. |
Unfortunately, it is still fairly essential for many people. In rural areas where public transport is sparse and infrequent (if it exists at all). For tradespeople and delivery drivers (not all of whom use identifiable "vans"). Those providing care services, both formal and voluntary. Families with children.
I'm certainly no opponent of LTZs, but things need to be carefully thought through. In a non urban-centric, office/WFH sense. And it might require some road building or widening to take traffic away from bottlenecks and rat-runs.
Perhaps it's just that I don't trust governments to do things in a careful, well-considered fashion, rather than rushing out half-baked legislation to grab a few headlines. |  |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:27 - Jul 30 with 2049 views | Herbivore |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:13 - Jul 30 by Guthrum |
Unfortunately, it is still fairly essential for many people. In rural areas where public transport is sparse and infrequent (if it exists at all). For tradespeople and delivery drivers (not all of whom use identifiable "vans"). Those providing care services, both formal and voluntary. Families with children.
I'm certainly no opponent of LTZs, but things need to be carefully thought through. In a non urban-centric, office/WFH sense. And it might require some road building or widening to take traffic away from bottlenecks and rat-runs.
Perhaps it's just that I don't trust governments to do things in a careful, well-considered fashion, rather than rushing out half-baked legislation to grab a few headlines. |
Of course there are people who will need to drive for work purposes, but it would be interesting to know what proportion of journeys that actually accounts for. And of course people in rural areas need far, far, far better public transport to prevent the need to drive everywhere and that needs to be part of it. That said, for many driving is a convenience rather than a necessity and we do need to start shifting the mindset that car ownership is inevitable and a fundamental aspect of our social lives, when for many people they could very easily get by without driving, albeit there may be times it is less convenient for them. If we are serious about addressing climate change and pollution more generally though, these are the kinds of changes we are going to have to seriously talk about and consider. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:38 - Jul 30 with 2001 views | lowhouseblue |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:13 - Jul 30 by Guthrum |
Unfortunately, it is still fairly essential for many people. In rural areas where public transport is sparse and infrequent (if it exists at all). For tradespeople and delivery drivers (not all of whom use identifiable "vans"). Those providing care services, both formal and voluntary. Families with children.
I'm certainly no opponent of LTZs, but things need to be carefully thought through. In a non urban-centric, office/WFH sense. And it might require some road building or widening to take traffic away from bottlenecks and rat-runs.
Perhaps it's just that I don't trust governments to do things in a careful, well-considered fashion, rather than rushing out half-baked legislation to grab a few headlines. |
ltzs need to be cleverly designed - and i agree they may be one part of a package involving road redesign. it also needs to be linked to public transport improvements such as park and ride. there need to be exceptions for deliveries etc, and there needs to be real concern for the distributional impact. but overall they tend to work very well.
while there are some journeys that realistically are always best done by car (rural where public transport isn't a substitute) we drive too much. we have had the luxury of being able to make journeys on the spur of the moment, with complete flexibility and convenience, and at (in absolute terms) low cost. that isn't sustainable and even electric cars can't preserve what we currently do. a whole pattern of life has evolved around cheap flexible car use - commuting, driving for shopping, driving for away games etc which does need to change quite radically. it's a very brave politician who will say that. sunak is sounding out ways to say the opposite and to build that into the coming election. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:39 - Jul 30 with 1996 views | Guthrum |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:27 - Jul 30 by Herbivore |
Of course there are people who will need to drive for work purposes, but it would be interesting to know what proportion of journeys that actually accounts for. And of course people in rural areas need far, far, far better public transport to prevent the need to drive everywhere and that needs to be part of it. That said, for many driving is a convenience rather than a necessity and we do need to start shifting the mindset that car ownership is inevitable and a fundamental aspect of our social lives, when for many people they could very easily get by without driving, albeit there may be times it is less convenient for them. If we are serious about addressing climate change and pollution more generally though, these are the kinds of changes we are going to have to seriously talk about and consider. |
A better approach might be a big push to improve (working) electric vehicle charging facilities in the UK, making electric car useage more feasible. Particularly on longer journeys where assurance of the ability to recharge (without having to wait literally hours for just one or two charging points) is vital, or for all the people who cannot park - and therefore charge - at home.
That would do more to drive petrol/diesel vehicles off the road than anything else. | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:53 - Jul 30 with 1902 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:39 - Jul 30 by Guthrum |
A better approach might be a big push to improve (working) electric vehicle charging facilities in the UK, making electric car useage more feasible. Particularly on longer journeys where assurance of the ability to recharge (without having to wait literally hours for just one or two charging points) is vital, or for all the people who cannot park - and therefore charge - at home.
That would do more to drive petrol/diesel vehicles off the road than anything else. |
This. It’s all very easy to attack car ownership from a London-centric view but in areas like mine there is no alternative. More frequent buses would just be driving round empty burning fuel. Electric cars whilst they still have a lifecycle carbon impact will greatly improve things (and I say that as a petrol head) but the infrastructure needs much improvement.
Things like shipping have a huge carbon impact but no near term replacement, so essentially we need to buy less Sh1t. When you see vegetables in the supermarket that have been imported as far as Thailand, that’s frankly ridiculous. | | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:58 - Jul 30 with 1879 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:27 - Jul 30 by Herbivore |
Of course there are people who will need to drive for work purposes, but it would be interesting to know what proportion of journeys that actually accounts for. And of course people in rural areas need far, far, far better public transport to prevent the need to drive everywhere and that needs to be part of it. That said, for many driving is a convenience rather than a necessity and we do need to start shifting the mindset that car ownership is inevitable and a fundamental aspect of our social lives, when for many people they could very easily get by without driving, albeit there may be times it is less convenient for them. If we are serious about addressing climate change and pollution more generally though, these are the kinds of changes we are going to have to seriously talk about and consider. |
Shifting the mindset and attacking the problem from the voter end 'upwards' has to be the focus of those who care about the future.
So many people talk a good game, but still do endless unnecessary journeys in over-sized vehicles, occupied by one or two people only. That is shameful.
Are we, as individuals, going to wait until the UK is unable to import enough food to feed us, or has actually become unmanageably overcrowded with climate refugees before we realise that the situation we are in is the consequence of our own flaccid inaction? | |
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| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 11:00 - Jul 30 with 1863 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 10:53 - Jul 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
This. It’s all very easy to attack car ownership from a London-centric view but in areas like mine there is no alternative. More frequent buses would just be driving round empty burning fuel. Electric cars whilst they still have a lifecycle carbon impact will greatly improve things (and I say that as a petrol head) but the infrastructure needs much improvement.
Things like shipping have a huge carbon impact but no near term replacement, so essentially we need to buy less Sh1t. When you see vegetables in the supermarket that have been imported as far as Thailand, that’s frankly ridiculous. |
I’m interested in people's experience of work travel. I’ve been slightly surprised that it seems to be back to pre pandemic levels (in terms of my experience), has anyone seen a reduction in flying? Has anyone refused to fly for work? | | | |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 11:22 - Jul 30 with 1807 views | DJR |
| Sunak is a spineless sh!t weasel #6374883 on 11:00 - Jul 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m interested in people's experience of work travel. I’ve been slightly surprised that it seems to be back to pre pandemic levels (in terms of my experience), has anyone seen a reduction in flying? Has anyone refused to fly for work? |
It's certainly difficult to notice any improvement on my occasional journeys northward through the Dartford Tunnel, whether midweek or at weekends. Perhaps WFH has mainly had an effect on people commuting by train, or merely shifted car journeys nearer to home. And there appears to be no fall in flying if the headlines from this are anything to go by: the article itself may be paywalled.
https://www.ft.com/content/bf5d9815-2251-4739-b9f1-1838e30fc981
And this from the article is interesting.
IAG said “very strong leisure demand” across all its airlines and cabins had offset a slower recovery for corporate travel and that it believed customers had “prioritised holidays and visiting friends and relatives”.
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