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Personal terms agreed before fee? 13:27 - Jun 18 with 3635 viewsipswichtillidie

On Phil’s news story, surely the club needs to agree a fee before the player can discuss terms or are things done differently in Greece.
Agent or club definitely pushing for more either way. The Greek journo has been touting him around since April. West Ham, Fulham, Sporting, Us, Bologna. Probably missed a few!!

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:31 - Jun 18 with 3556 viewsKieran_Knows

If you don't think that sort of thing happens, then it's very naive. Like Town making their offer for him ... we must've had some indication - probably via his agent - that he'd be willing to join us, otherwise we'd just be wasting our time making offers.

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:33 - Jun 18 with 3540 viewsipswichtillidie

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:31 - Jun 18 by Kieran_Knows

If you don't think that sort of thing happens, then it's very naive. Like Town making their offer for him ... we must've had some indication - probably via his agent - that he'd be willing to join us, otherwise we'd just be wasting our time making offers.


I’m fully aware figures would get discussed but it’s being reported it’s all agreed. Seems an odd way to report things. I’m not naive. Ty

Gav

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:34 - Jun 18 with 3513 viewsJ2BLUE

This is fairly common.

We used to hear about tapping up. Now it seems perfectly acceptable.

Truly impaired.
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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:38 - Jun 18 with 3471 viewsipswichtillidie

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:34 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE

This is fairly common.

We used to hear about tapping up. Now it seems perfectly acceptable.


Yes it was more around the reporting of it. You naturally would assume that personal terms are done in the background as clubs close in on a fee. But this seems to have been pushed out by someone to gee up others in the race imo. Not often for example we have a news story about a player that we are looking at stating terms have been agreed but the asking club wants XYZ.

Gav

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:40 - Jun 18 with 3438 viewsZx1988

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:38 - Jun 18 by ipswichtillidie

Yes it was more around the reporting of it. You naturally would assume that personal terms are done in the background as clubs close in on a fee. But this seems to have been pushed out by someone to gee up others in the race imo. Not often for example we have a news story about a player that we are looking at stating terms have been agreed but the asking club wants XYZ.


Definitely seems to be designed to put the willies up the other suitors.

"We've agreed terms with Bologna, so unless you get an acceptable offer in before they do, you won't stand a chance."

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:46 - Jun 18 with 3371 viewstractorboy1978

Bologna are another team in the Champions League. As I said yesterday, we are going to do incredibly well to get him if teams of this ilk are in for him.
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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:56 - Jun 18 with 3265 viewsipswichtillidie

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:46 - Jun 18 by tractorboy1978

Bologna are another team in the Champions League. As I said yesterday, we are going to do incredibly well to get him if teams of this ilk are in for him.


I looked up Bologna’s annual salary bill (2023)to make a financial comparison. Few sites have it at around £26 million per annum. If you put them in a salary table last season with the premiership teams only Luton (24m) would be below them. Obviously they now are playing champions league football but shows where we are at in terms of financials in this division compared to other leagues.

Crystal Palace
£69,050,000
13
Fulham
£64,610,000
14
Brighton
£62,400,000
15
Wolves
£53,820,000
16
Bournemouth
£53,794,000
17
Brentford
£39,936,000
18
Burnley
£38,506,000
19
Sheffield United
£28,756,000
20
Luton Town
£24,570,000
[Post edited 18 Jun 2024 13:58]

Gav

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 15:09 - Jun 18 with 2817 viewsTrumptonBlue

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:46 - Jun 18 by tractorboy1978

Bologna are another team in the Champions League. As I said yesterday, we are going to do incredibly well to get him if teams of this ilk are in for him.


Also, they've got a lovely kit.
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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 15:34 - Jun 18 with 2667 viewsMercian

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:46 - Jun 18 by tractorboy1978

Bologna are another team in the Champions League. As I said yesterday, we are going to do incredibly well to get him if teams of this ilk are in for him.


He would not first at Bologna unless they sell Zirkzee.
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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 15:36 - Jun 18 with 2644 viewsbaxterbasics

Even football manager has this built in now - speaking with the agent before making an offer to the club!

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 15:40 - Jun 18 with 2617 viewsportmanking

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 15:34 - Jun 18 by Mercian

He would not first at Bologna unless they sell Zirkzee.


Zirkzee is almost certainly off this summer. Maybe to the PL even.
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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 20:15 - Jun 18 with 2187 viewsArnieM

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:56 - Jun 18 by ipswichtillidie

I looked up Bologna’s annual salary bill (2023)to make a financial comparison. Few sites have it at around £26 million per annum. If you put them in a salary table last season with the premiership teams only Luton (24m) would be below them. Obviously they now are playing champions league football but shows where we are at in terms of financials in this division compared to other leagues.

Crystal Palace
£69,050,000
13
Fulham
£64,610,000
14
Brighton
£62,400,000
15
Wolves
£53,820,000
16
Bournemouth
£53,794,000
17
Brentford
£39,936,000
18
Burnley
£38,506,000
19
Sheffield United
£28,756,000
20
Luton Town
£24,570,000
[Post edited 18 Jun 2024 13:58]


Excuse me for asking , but what is Towns annual salary compared to that list?

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Personal terms agreed before fee? on 00:41 - Jun 19 with 1827 viewsClareBlue

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 13:56 - Jun 18 by ipswichtillidie

I looked up Bologna’s annual salary bill (2023)to make a financial comparison. Few sites have it at around £26 million per annum. If you put them in a salary table last season with the premiership teams only Luton (24m) would be below them. Obviously they now are playing champions league football but shows where we are at in terms of financials in this division compared to other leagues.

Crystal Palace
£69,050,000
13
Fulham
£64,610,000
14
Brighton
£62,400,000
15
Wolves
£53,820,000
16
Bournemouth
£53,794,000
17
Brentford
£39,936,000
18
Burnley
£38,506,000
19
Sheffield United
£28,756,000
20
Luton Town
£24,570,000
[Post edited 18 Jun 2024 13:58]


The correlation between wage bill for a club and position in the league is much more accurate than net transfer expenditure of the club. It's being able to pay inflated wages that gets the player and the Premiership is generally in the strongest position just below the real elite players, which we won't get anyway.
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Last season at the start it was on 04:40 - Jun 19 with 1738 viewskiwiblue

Personal terms agreed before fee? on 20:15 - Jun 18 by ArnieM

Excuse me for asking , but what is Towns annual salary compared to that list?


19.2 m pounds including Williams at 65000 a week and Lee Evans and Dane Scarlett but excluding Keifer Travis and Sarmiento and Al Hamadi. but the bonuses will show in this years figures so maybe 28m to 40m with the leavers plus whatever signings/loans we make
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