Reform vote is worryingly high so far 23:54 - Jul 4 with 3581 views | GavTWTD | We might be pleased we have FPTP by the end |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 23:55 - Jul 4 with 2988 views | J2BLUE | Don't you like democracy Gav? |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 23:55 - Jul 4 with 2978 views | GavTWTD |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 23:55 - Jul 4 by J2BLUE | Don't you like democracy Gav? |
When it suits me. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 23:57 - Jul 4 with 2960 views | J2BLUE |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 23:55 - Jul 4 by GavTWTD | When it suits me. |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:07 - Jul 5 with 2907 views | redrickstuhaart | Very much so. Sunderland central would have been very tight indeed if reform people had voted conservative. The rise of bigotry and the far right across Europe is a very frightening trend. I like to think we are largely better than that. I appear to be wrong. |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:08 - Jul 5 with 2873 views | Bury_St_Edmundson |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:07 - Jul 5 by redrickstuhaart | Very much so. Sunderland central would have been very tight indeed if reform people had voted conservative. The rise of bigotry and the far right across Europe is a very frightening trend. I like to think we are largely better than that. I appear to be wrong. |
Were you not around for Brexit? |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:10 - Jul 5 with 2820 views | redrickstuhaart |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:08 - Jul 5 by Bury_St_Edmundson | Were you not around for Brexit? |
Brexit had some genuine non xenophobic issues attached to it. It also came with a veneer of respectability that does not exist for reform. It seems that given anonymous votes, lots of people are prepared to shout loud and proud "we are bigots"! |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:12 - Jul 5 with 2761 views | positivity |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:07 - Jul 5 by redrickstuhaart | Very much so. Sunderland central would have been very tight indeed if reform people had voted conservative. The rise of bigotry and the far right across Europe is a very frightening trend. I like to think we are largely better than that. I appear to be wrong. |
however if the brexit party voters had voted conservative last time, the tories would have won easily; the swing is from con to reform rather than lab/ld/green to reform. we'll get a better idea when the votes come in from other(non north east) areas |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:22 - Jul 5 with 2605 views | Bury_St_Edmundson |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:10 - Jul 5 by redrickstuhaart | Brexit had some genuine non xenophobic issues attached to it. It also came with a veneer of respectability that does not exist for reform. It seems that given anonymous votes, lots of people are prepared to shout loud and proud "we are bigots"! |
whilst there were some genuine non xenophobic issues, they were greatly outweighed, especially out loud, by the opposite [Post edited 5 Jul 2024 0:22]
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:24 - Jul 5 with 2576 views | Swansea_Blue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:08 - Jul 5 by Bury_St_Edmundson | Were you not around for Brexit? |
It wasn’t bigotry that made us fear 70 million Turks, it was intense dislike of garlic relish instead of chilli sauce. Or something |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:27 - Jul 5 with 2533 views | Bury_St_Edmundson |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:24 - Jul 5 by Swansea_Blue | It wasn’t bigotry that made us fear 70 million Turks, it was intense dislike of garlic relish instead of chilli sauce. Or something |
The fear of forced hair cuts on the high street |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:32 - Jul 5 with 2456 views | Swansea_Blue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:10 - Jul 5 by redrickstuhaart | Brexit had some genuine non xenophobic issues attached to it. It also came with a veneer of respectability that does not exist for reform. It seems that given anonymous votes, lots of people are prepared to shout loud and proud "we are bigots"! |
“Respectability” is pushing it a bit far. Non-racist but equally deluded ideology is closer to the mark. Their only inarguable point was being able to demonstrate sovereignty, but any of us paying attention knew we had that all along and didn’t see the need to prove it by shooting ourselves in the foot. *Sigh* |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:36 - Jul 5 with 2417 views | redrickstuhaart |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:32 - Jul 5 by Swansea_Blue | “Respectability” is pushing it a bit far. Non-racist but equally deluded ideology is closer to the mark. Their only inarguable point was being able to demonstrate sovereignty, but any of us paying attention knew we had that all along and didn’t see the need to prove it by shooting ourselves in the foot. *Sigh* |
"veneer".... I was not attracted to the drive towards federalism. The EU as a whole appears to have backed away from that of late. |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 00:37 - Jul 5 with 2414 views | reusersfreekicks | Awful news - the fascists are coming. It is very sad that Farage the self publicising liar is conning so many people |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 03:20 - Jul 5 with 2269 views | baxterbasics | I'm surprised more people here aren't thanking Farage. His involvement has ensured what would have been a bad night for the Conservatives is a instead a disaster. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 03:23 - Jul 5 with 2258 views | wkj |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 03:20 - Jul 5 by baxterbasics | I'm surprised more people here aren't thanking Farage. His involvement has ensured what would have been a bad night for the Conservatives is a instead a disaster. |
Not to much good will towards someone that wants to deliver the coup de grace to the NHS |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 03:41 - Jul 5 with 2232 views | reusersfreekicks |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 03:20 - Jul 5 by baxterbasics | I'm surprised more people here aren't thanking Farage. His involvement has ensured what would have been a bad night for the Conservatives is a instead a disaster. |
Misses the point that he is even worse |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 05:41 - Jul 5 with 2039 views | Zapers |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 03:41 - Jul 5 by reusersfreekicks | Misses the point that he is even worse |
One man’s meat is another man’s poison. Get used to it, Farage will be your biggest nightmare soon enough. |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 05:45 - Jul 5 with 2014 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 05:41 - Jul 5 by Zapers | One man’s meat is another man’s poison. Get used to it, Farage will be your biggest nightmare soon enough. |
Why will he be? If he continues to drive the Conservative Party into division and turmoil, it opens the way for governments that are far less extreme right than we have had for the past 14 years. It will be interesting to see whether it can even be used to drive some decent electoral reform. If you are suggesting the popularisation of division and extreme right ideologies, I think that has happened already. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:02 - Jul 5 with 1966 views | Illinoisblue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 05:41 - Jul 5 by Zapers | One man’s meat is another man’s poison. Get used to it, Farage will be your biggest nightmare soon enough. |
Well done to the folks in Clacton who think a privately educated millionaire who banks at Coutts will make their lives better. Well done. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:11 - Jul 5 with 1931 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:02 - Jul 5 by Illinoisblue | Well done to the folks in Clacton who think a privately educated millionaire who banks at Coutts will make their lives better. Well done. |
But he will really stop the foreigners coming over and stealing everything from them. Just like voting Brexit did ... and his low-tax low-regulation policies will serve them all so well ... until they want any public services or legal rights. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:23 - Jul 5 with 1892 views | tcblue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:02 - Jul 5 by Illinoisblue | Well done to the folks in Clacton who think a privately educated millionaire who banks at Coutts will make their lives better. Well done. |
This is the point, up until now Fartrage has been at the sidelines braying. The best thing to expose him as the lazy grifter he is has happened - now he has to be an MP and he can't hide |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:49 - Jul 5 with 1820 views | cressi | The same clueless fools who voted for Brexit believing all thr Eastern Europeans would go back and the borders would close. Those rich people who now pay double for most things and can only do 90 days in Europe at any one time |  | |  |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:56 - Jul 5 with 1794 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:23 - Jul 5 by tcblue | This is the point, up until now Fartrage has been at the sidelines braying. The best thing to expose him as the lazy grifter he is has happened - now he has to be an MP and he can't hide |
It could give him a platform too ... although the media already have so I am not sure how much more of one he could get. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 07:02 - Jul 5 with 1741 views | GeoffSentence | Not really, if we had PR it is likely the government would be made up of Labour, Lib Dems and Greens. That would be a better outcome. |  |
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Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 07:09 - Jul 5 with 1697 views | tcblue |
Reform vote is worryingly high so far on 06:56 - Jul 5 by Nthsuffolkblue | It could give him a platform too ... although the media already have so I am not sure how much more of one he could get. |
Exactly. He's had a platform without any accountability. What's changed overnight is the latter. Looking forward to seeing his attendance records. |  | |  |
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