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Bit annoyed, bit relieved 16:41 - Jul 12 with 2842 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Thought JP was the sort of creative player we might need to turn a game, on the other hand, his agent would have been a nightmare in every single window and in turn destabilising to the squad.

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:43 - Jul 12 with 2787 viewscressi

Thank god its over move on
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:44 - Jul 12 with 2783 viewsbilllm

Pretty much agree with that, we have a close squad, JP is probably a sound young man but his agent what a plonker would cause issues long term,
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:44 - Jul 12 with 2757 viewsFrimleyBlue

There's something very strange with this whole situation tbh, I'm not sure what benefits there are to villa in all of this, but I find it odd how they sold him last summer yet agreed what personal terms he would be on when he came back...

Either way, i'd be more gutted if we didn't get greaves as we need a cb, but a flair player imo can be found out there easier than most other positions imo.

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:45 - Jul 12 with 2750 viewsSE1blue

Has reminded me of the desperation to sign Celina a while back.

We didn't suffer without him and it'll probably be the same here.

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:46 - Jul 12 with 2723 viewsBellevue_Blue

Agree with this, naive of Philogene to see this for what it is. An opportunity to stock talent and get around PSR. Villa will keep him for a year, he will have a load of sub appearances and then they will sell him for 20/ 25M next summer for another 7M profit.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:47 - Jul 12 with 2710 views_clive_baker_

I'm disappointed, not annoyed. Hell of a player who I've absolutely loved the look of since his Cardiff loan. Was desperate for us to do that deal last summer and was the 1 I wanted this summer too. Really frustrating, but there's plenty more candidates out there and we move on.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:17 - Jul 12 with 2543 viewsLankHenners

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:47 - Jul 12 by _clive_baker_

I'm disappointed, not annoyed. Hell of a player who I've absolutely loved the look of since his Cardiff loan. Was desperate for us to do that deal last summer and was the 1 I wanted this summer too. Really frustrating, but there's plenty more candidates out there and we move on.


Yeah, imagine Ashton will take a few minutes to beat the crap out of a cushion or something. All that hard work to get him on the brink of joining then Villa swoop in last minute with pre-agreed terms and he changes his mind.

Clearly our first choice and disappointing to miss out but mindset has to be move on and crack on with getting an alternative target.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:41 - Jul 12 with 2409 viewsStewart27

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:44 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue

There's something very strange with this whole situation tbh, I'm not sure what benefits there are to villa in all of this, but I find it odd how they sold him last summer yet agreed what personal terms he would be on when he came back...

Either way, i'd be more gutted if we didn't get greaves as we need a cb, but a flair player imo can be found out there easier than most other positions imo.


If I’m the Villa owners I’m questioning why I’m buying a player back for significantly more money than they were sold for one year prior.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:42 - Jul 12 with 2413 viewsGavTWTD

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 16:47 - Jul 12 by _clive_baker_

I'm disappointed, not annoyed. Hell of a player who I've absolutely loved the look of since his Cardiff loan. Was desperate for us to do that deal last summer and was the 1 I wanted this summer too. Really frustrating, but there's plenty more candidates out there and we move on.


I'll be disappointed when he's announced as a Villa player. I've been invested in his signature and thought he'd be so good for us. I do think it's his loss but it's up to him to be indispensable to his "new" club. Ah well, we move on. I mustn't get excited to.soon!

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:43 - Jul 12 with 2381 viewsFrimleyBlue

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:41 - Jul 12 by Stewart27

If I’m the Villa owners I’m questioning why I’m buying a player back for significantly more money than they were sold for one year prior.


But to have pre agreed terms means It's a plan to take him back.. I don't get that whole business why not just loan out?

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:49 - Jul 12 with 2340 viewsFrimleyBlue


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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:51 - Jul 12 with 2326 viewsBloomBlue

I thought he had potential, but I can only base my opinion on the 2 games I watched him play last season, home and away to Town, and I didn't see anything amazing in those games. Appreciate 2 games isn't a fair judgement.
But I'm not convinced he would be an automatic stater ahead of a Chaplin or Broadhead, all 3 had similar stats last season.
But anyway he's decided Villa is the better option for him, good luck to him.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 21:48 - Jul 12 with 2017 viewsibbleobble

…as opposed to KM’s agent you mean?
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 03:07 - Jul 13 with 1751 viewsZapers

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 17:49 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue



Philogene to Ipswich on loan?

I have no knowledge, but it would not surprise me.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 06:55 - Jul 13 with 1602 viewsWakh

Clearly his agent has worked hard for him, as he should.l, but I don’t see he has done much wrong. The Villa clause is what it is if they trigger it, but the way this is panning out suggest to me there may be a third player involved.
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 07:08 - Jul 13 with 1549 viewsArchiRob

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 06:55 - Jul 13 by Wakh

Clearly his agent has worked hard for him, as he should.l, but I don’t see he has done much wrong. The Villa clause is what it is if they trigger it, but the way this is panning out suggest to me there may be a third player involved.


His agent has probably destroyed any credibility in future negotiations. He has gone between Everton Palice , Wham and Town telling each that he desperately wants to go to each. Wonder how long Villa wait before they sell him on?

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 07:23 - Jul 13 with 1464 viewshoppy

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 03:07 - Jul 13 by Zapers

Philogene to Ipswich on loan?

I have no knowledge, but it would not surprise me.


Wouldn’t be possible until the January window for that to happen.

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 08:31 - Jul 13 with 1317 viewsNutkins_Return

It's a good point on the agent but make no mistakes that would have been a huge signing for us. Think he will triple in value. Hope I'm wrong now!

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 08:37 - Jul 13 with 1297 viewsMK1

Would have been a good signing, but every player has his price and I feel his price had gone to high. Wouldn't have said no, but now we move on to others that are needed. (DCM/CF)

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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 08:56 - Jul 13 with 1233 viewsZapers

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 07:23 - Jul 13 by hoppy

Wouldn’t be possible until the January window for that to happen.


Fair enough, thanks
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Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 13:44 - Jul 13 with 1066 viewsWakh

Bit annoyed, bit relieved on 07:08 - Jul 13 by ArchiRob

His agent has probably destroyed any credibility in future negotiations. He has gone between Everton Palice , Wham and Town telling each that he desperately wants to go to each. Wonder how long Villa wait before they sell him on?


That’s not quite how it works and not as I see it. There is another force at play here.
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