| Gonna be Tuchel. (n/t) on 20:13 - Oct 11 with 3785 views | Bloots |
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| Mckenna for England? on 20:22 - Oct 11 with 3755 views | farkenhell |
A thought provoking article. Until the final bit of the last sentence. |  | | |
| Gonna be Tuchel. (n/t) on 21:10 - Oct 11 with 3601 views | Guthrum |
| Gonna be Tuchel. (n/t) on 20:13 - Oct 11 by Bloots |
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Thought he was lined up for ManU? |  |
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| Gonna be Tuchel. (n/t) on 21:14 - Oct 11 with 3584 views | ibbleobble |
| Gonna be Tuchel. (n/t) on 21:10 - Oct 11 by Guthrum |
Thought he was lined up for ManU? |
…and Brighton and Chelsea. | | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:00 - Oct 11 with 3445 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Mckenna for England? on 20:22 - Oct 11 by farkenhell |
A thought provoking article. Until the final bit of the last sentence. |
It's true though, Frank Lampard does remain out of work. They could have easily put Huw Edwards, Max Clifford or Henry VIII as well, for all the difference it makes. |  |
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| Mckenna for England? on 22:17 - Oct 11 with 3392 views | Deano69 |
Not a chance. |  |
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| Mckenna for England? on 11:57 - Oct 12 with 2980 views | franz_tyson |
Isn't McKenna's strength his coaching? How can you bring a bunch of players from all different clubs together ( all being coached differently) for a few weeks per year and coach them in your style?
I think you just need a manager/ coach who's not necessarily a good coach, but a talisman kind of manager who can pick and mould a certain group of players together quickly and be a first-rate tactician. Kieran's no mug, but I wouldn't say he's a brilliant tactician ( or its his strength). Too early for him and maybe not the type of job he wants. | | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 17:00 - Oct 12 with 2847 views | MK1 |
Not a popular view, but for me, the England manager has to be English. No way is Pep or Klopp taking the job anyway. |  |
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| Mckenna for England? on 19:48 - Oct 12 with 2755 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Mckenna for England? on 17:00 - Oct 12 by MK1 |
Not a popular view, but for me, the England manager has to be English. No way is Pep or Klopp taking the job anyway. |
Normally I'd agree but if Pep wad willing I'd pay him what he wants and wait until the summer to appoint him.
If he can't get a tune out of the attacking talent we have no one can in which case we can all then forget a our England and maintain club focus |  |
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| Mckenna for England? on 20:56 - Oct 12 with 2667 views | DJR |
| Mckenna for England? on 17:00 - Oct 12 by MK1 |
Not a popular view, but for me, the England manager has to be English. No way is Pep or Klopp taking the job anyway. |
Or more likely in my view, McKenna, because of his heritage, wouldn't want the England job |  | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:08 - Oct 12 with 2584 views | Oldsmoker |
| Mckenna for England? on 20:56 - Oct 12 by DJR |
Or more likely in my view, McKenna, because of his heritage, wouldn't want the England job |
Why would anyone want the England job?
A great honour is always thrown out there.
The down side is the social media deluge of hate and the constant bickering from the press 'cos he hasn't picked the right team.
If it hasn't sunk in after that, then the first below-par performance will bring home the suffering that he and his family will endure until the day he leaves the job. |  |
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| Mckenna for England? on 22:34 - Oct 12 with 2536 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Mckenna for England? on 20:56 - Oct 12 by DJR |
Or more likely in my view, McKenna, because of his heritage, wouldn't want the England job |
Do we know which side of the divide he is on? | | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:45 - Oct 12 with 2523 views | Oldsmoker |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:34 - Oct 12 by redrickstuhaart |
Do we know which side of the divide he is on? |
It's OK to post about Israel and Palestine.
It's not OK to mention Brexit. | |
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| Mckenna for England? on 22:51 - Oct 12 with 2507 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:45 - Oct 12 by Oldsmoker |
It's OK to post about Israel and Palestine.
It's not OK to mention Brexit. |
What? | | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:56 - Oct 12 with 2494 views | Oldsmoker |
Just having fun - looking for a reaction.
But the divide in England is Leave/Remain.
The divide in NI is about religion and that's a subject I don't go near and why I also never post on the Israel/Palestinian threads. | |
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| Mckenna for England? on 23:00 - Oct 12 with 2474 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:56 - Oct 12 by Oldsmoker |
Just having fun - looking for a reaction.
But the divide in England is Leave/Remain.
The divide in NI is about religion and that's a subject I don't go near and why I also never post on the Israel/Palestinian threads. |
The point being that an NI catholic is much less likely to find the England job attractive. | | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 07:59 - Oct 13 with 2170 views | DJR |
| Mckenna for England? on 22:34 - Oct 12 by redrickstuhaart |
Do we know which side of the divide he is on? |
It's normally the surname (and sometimes the first name) which is a strong indicator (on both sides of the divide), although it didn't work for Danny McGrain who was assumed to be a Catholic and so wasn't considered by Rangers.
And according to Wikipedia, McKenna played Gaelic football which I would have thought put the matter beyond doubt, although interestingly he was born in London.
I also have a feeling he touched on the rivalry in his family with England in one of his interviews a couple of years ago. | | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 15:57 - Oct 13 with 1964 views | HighgateBlue |
| Mckenna for England? on 20:56 - Oct 12 by DJR |
Or more likely in my view, McKenna, because of his heritage, wouldn't want the England job |
I think that's a big assumption. He's a very level-headed guy, who has never spoken out about religion or politics or linked either religion or politics to football. His parents were clearly content to have a child in England. He himself has spent a long long time working in England, including as far back as when he was a teenager. His parents have run a successful business with N.Ireland as part of the UK. None of these things are conclusive of course, but there's just no reason to think he has any particular negative view of working with England.
It's possible that he wouldn't want the England job for any number of reasons, but I don't see that there's any evidence that he would turn down the opportunity to manage the country of his birth because some other people think he should based on his heritage.
Similarly, Carsley might not want the England job long-term (not that he'd get it), but there's no reason to think that's because his Irish gran has had a word in his ear. |  | | |
| Mckenna for England? on 16:42 - Oct 13 with 1919 views | Radlett_blue |
| Mckenna for England? on 11:57 - Oct 12 by franz_tyson |
Isn't McKenna's strength his coaching? How can you bring a bunch of players from all different clubs together ( all being coached differently) for a few weeks per year and coach them in your style?
I think you just need a manager/ coach who's not necessarily a good coach, but a talisman kind of manager who can pick and mould a certain group of players together quickly and be a first-rate tactician. Kieran's no mug, but I wouldn't say he's a brilliant tactician ( or its his strength). Too early for him and maybe not the type of job he wants. |
Bearing in mind Carsley is now getting pelters for England's display against Greece, largely on the grounds he hasn't managed at anywhere near the top level, the FA are very unlikely to replace him with another relatively inexperienced coach. They will play safe with Eddie Howe or Potter, or maybe down the foreign mercenary route (hopefully not the latter). |  |
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| Mckenna for England? on 17:46 - Oct 13 with 1853 views | DJR |
| Mckenna for England? on 15:57 - Oct 13 by HighgateBlue |
I think that's a big assumption. He's a very level-headed guy, who has never spoken out about religion or politics or linked either religion or politics to football. His parents were clearly content to have a child in England. He himself has spent a long long time working in England, including as far back as when he was a teenager. His parents have run a successful business with N.Ireland as part of the UK. None of these things are conclusive of course, but there's just no reason to think he has any particular negative view of working with England.
It's possible that he wouldn't want the England job for any number of reasons, but I don't see that there's any evidence that he would turn down the opportunity to manage the country of his birth because some other people think he should based on his heritage.
Similarly, Carsley might not want the England job long-term (not that he'd get it), but there's no reason to think that's because his Irish gran has had a word in his ear. |
Who knows his actual views but I was basing my view on sporting rivalry not suggesting McKenna is a dye-in-the-wool Republican? But as you say he is level-headed so if he thought it was the move for him no doubt he would go ahead because he seems pretty determined and focused. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 17:53]
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