| Brentford know what they're doing 10:00 - Jul 16 with 4859 views | Zx1988 |
I can't imagine that Brentford failing to meet the terms of Omari's clause was an accident or an oversight on their part.
It feels as if their tactic is to unsettle Omari, and then try and get a better deal than the clause would have allowed for. |  |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 with 3117 views | portmanking |
There's no chance of the club accepting a worse deal than the one they could've got at 5pm last night. We're no longer a soft touch. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 with 3108 views | Dennyx4 |
They can always offer over £35m spread over a longer period. |  | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 with 3108 views | le2blue |
That is exactly what they're doing...in tandem with Fabrizo, no coincidence that he started tweeting just before the deadline...and also why Ipswich have been briefing on their expectations. Hardball now, just as Brentford are doing with ManU. |  | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:04 - Jul 16 with 3028 views | thebooks |
Kind of what I’m thinking. It’s alright saying “Ashton can now ask for £300m” but not as simple as that if Omari wants it (not saying he does, but I think it’s fair enough if he wants some from of PL move).
The clause just means we have to sell at £x. That’s gone, so Brentford can now bid £y.
Also depends if there are a few teams in for him. If it’s just Brentford then they’re in a strong position.
I could, of course, be completely wrong. |  | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:05 - Jul 16 with 3026 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 by le2blue |
That is exactly what they're doing...in tandem with Fabrizo, no coincidence that he started tweeting just before the deadline...and also why Ipswich have been briefing on their expectations. Hardball now, just as Brentford are doing with ManU. |
... all whilst Town paid him money to announce the Omari signing for us... |  |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:06 - Jul 16 with 2975 views | StokieBlue |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 by Dennyx4 |
They can always offer over £35m spread over a longer period. |
That is what they offered according to Phil and we turned it down.
Good stuff from Town, no need to be pushovers even if it does happen.
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:09 - Jul 16 with 2888 views | le2blue |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:05 - Jul 16 by Kieran_Knows |
... all whilst Town paid him money to announce the Omari signing for us... |
Yep, it's all part of the game, and he's a gun for hire for sure.
Ipswich will also be briefing on Hackney to apply pressure on Boro to accept our offer. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:10 - Jul 16 with 2843 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:09 - Jul 16 by le2blue |
Yep, it's all part of the game, and he's a gun for hire for sure.
Ipswich will also be briefing on Hackney to apply pressure on Boro to accept our offer. |
Which winds me up when Ashton gets his pants in a twist and blames supporters for 'leaking' info, when the club are happy to brief/pay Fabrizio to get stories/announcements out there.
But hey, what do I know! | |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:10 - Jul 16 with 2838 views | _clive_baker_ |
He's got 4 years left on his contract. Its quite simple they either meet our valuation for him and he goes, or they don't and he doesn't. |  | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:13 - Jul 16 with 2746 views | farkenhell |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:06 - Jul 16 by StokieBlue |
That is what they offered according to Phil and we turned it down.
Good stuff from Town, no need to be pushovers even if it does happen.
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Agree 100%. Such a refreshing change from umpteen times in the past when we've been desperate to sell then to see players go for a fraction of their true value. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:13 - Jul 16 with 2747 views | Zx1988 |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 by le2blue |
That is exactly what they're doing...in tandem with Fabrizo, no coincidence that he started tweeting just before the deadline...and also why Ipswich have been briefing on their expectations. Hardball now, just as Brentford are doing with ManU. |
It'd be interesting to know just how far short they were of the clause's requirements. Say, for instance, offering £14,999,999 up front as opposed to £15m.
Offering the required £35m, but on the wrong terms, seems designed to start a conversation along the lines of "but they offered the £35m you want..." if Omari is keen to explore the potential move.
If that's their tactic, I'd fully expect a clause-compliant bid to be made today. [Post edited 16 Jul 10:15]
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:13 - Jul 16 with 2734 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
If Brentford had met the terms of the release clause before 5pm yesterday, then there's not a lot we could have done.
Not a lot will change, I imagine the fee if he was to leave will be roughly the same, maybe slightly over the £35m mark, but the club have more power and control over the situation. |  |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:14 - Jul 16 with 2712 views | Jon_456 |
Believe Omari was/is set on leaving without any club trying to unsettle him.
Will be a tactic to get more favourable terms on how they pay the fee though. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:14 - Jul 16 with 2700 views | ReusersTown |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:04 - Jul 16 by thebooks |
Kind of what I’m thinking. It’s alright saying “Ashton can now ask for £300m” but not as simple as that if Omari wants it (not saying he does, but I think it’s fair enough if he wants some from of PL move).
The clause just means we have to sell at £x. That’s gone, so Brentford can now bid £y.
Also depends if there are a few teams in for him. If it’s just Brentford then they’re in a strong position.
I could, of course, be completely wrong. |
In what world would we sell for less than a release clause that's just expired. You do know that we could have accepted less than the release clause beforehand if we were going to! Lol | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:15 - Jul 16 with 2679 views | Radlett_blue |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:04 - Jul 16 by thebooks |
Kind of what I’m thinking. It’s alright saying “Ashton can now ask for £300m” but not as simple as that if Omari wants it (not saying he does, but I think it’s fair enough if he wants some from of PL move).
The clause just means we have to sell at £x. That’s gone, so Brentford can now bid £y.
Also depends if there are a few teams in for him. If it’s just Brentford then they’re in a strong position.
I could, of course, be completely wrong. |
Indeed, it works both ways. If no-one else is interested, Brentford might feel they can get Omari for £25m, especially if he is desperate to be in the PL next season. |  |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:17 - Jul 16 with 2588 views | StokieBlue |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:13 - Jul 16 by Zx1988 |
It'd be interesting to know just how far short they were of the clause's requirements. Say, for instance, offering £14,999,999 up front as opposed to £15m.
Offering the required £35m, but on the wrong terms, seems designed to start a conversation along the lines of "but they offered the £35m you want..." if Omari is keen to explore the potential move.
If that's their tactic, I'd fully expect a clause-compliant bid to be made today. [Post edited 16 Jul 10:15]
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Aren't release clauses often specified to be paid all the money upfront?
I think that's usually the case.
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:19 - Jul 16 with 2540 views | Zx1988 |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:17 - Jul 16 by StokieBlue |
Aren't release clauses often specified to be paid all the money upfront?
I think that's usually the case.
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That's my understanding.
More of an illustration of a way in which they could make their bid non-compliant in the most trifling way possible, with a view to causing discord between player and club. | |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:20 - Jul 16 with 2491 views | farkenhell |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:15 - Jul 16 by Radlett_blue |
Indeed, it works both ways. If no-one else is interested, Brentford might feel they can get Omari for £25m, especially if he is desperate to be in the PL next season. |
Having turned down an offer of £35 million, albeit on unacceptable payment terms, there is no way that MA will accept a lower offer from the same club shortly afterwards, however unhappy Omari may be. For no other reason than MA and Ipswich would then become a laughing stock and known as a soft touch throughout the football world. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:21 - Jul 16 with 2462 views | BlueBlood90 |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:15 - Jul 16 by Radlett_blue |
Indeed, it works both ways. If no-one else is interested, Brentford might feel they can get Omari for £25m, especially if he is desperate to be in the PL next season. |
We're not a soft touch these days.
Ashton would happily keep Omari here and expect him to be professional and do his job if a suitable bid doesn't come in on our terms. |  |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:22 - Jul 16 with 2430 views | farkenhell |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:02 - Jul 16 by portmanking |
There's no chance of the club accepting a worse deal than the one they could've got at 5pm last night. We're no longer a soft touch. |
Sorry, I should have read this before my reply above. Yours is much more succinct! | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:22 - Jul 16 with 2426 views | Guthrum |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:14 - Jul 16 by ReusersTown |
In what world would we sell for less than a release clause that's just expired. You do know that we could have accepted less than the release clause beforehand if we were going to! Lol |
It's more that the minimum threshold giving a hard refuse has now gone. If Brentford offer lower and the player is determined to go, then we are somewhat caught.
Do we attempt to hold Hutchinson to his contract against his will? That can get messy and be a source of disruption in the dressing room. Possibly deprive us of his services anyway if he goes on strike. What are we going to do, sack him? |  |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:24 - Jul 16 with 2355 views | Radlett_blue |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:21 - Jul 16 by BlueBlood90 |
We're not a soft touch these days.
Ashton would happily keep Omari here and expect him to be professional and do his job if a suitable bid doesn't come in on our terms. |
Maybe, but the reality these days is usually that if a player wants a move, he usually gets it. Let's go back to Jonathan Walters, for example. We don't know what's in Omari's mind anyway, but I would be surprised if he's at Town next season. If that's going to happen, let's hope we get the biggest fee we can (although he can turn down any club) & get it done before the last minute so that we can reinvest sensibly. | |
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| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:24 - Jul 16 with 2351 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:21 - Jul 16 by BlueBlood90 |
We're not a soft touch these days.
Ashton would happily keep Omari here and expect him to be professional and do his job if a suitable bid doesn't come in on our terms. |
Quite. When you pay £20m+ for a player unproven at Premier League level you're taking a bit of a punt. If he wants out now we're relegated that's up to him, but we own his registration for another 4 years and hold the cards. That's how it works, Brentford will need to put up or shut up. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:26 - Jul 16 with 2306 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:24 - Jul 16 by Radlett_blue |
Maybe, but the reality these days is usually that if a player wants a move, he usually gets it. Let's go back to Jonathan Walters, for example. We don't know what's in Omari's mind anyway, but I would be surprised if he's at Town next season. If that's going to happen, let's hope we get the biggest fee we can (although he can turn down any club) & get it done before the last minute so that we can reinvest sensibly. |
He'll almost certainly get it, and get it in the next week or 2 I imagine. But it won't be for less than the £35m we've already turned down. | | | |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:27 - Jul 16 with 2275 views | Big_Jase |
| Brentford know what they're doing on 10:22 - Jul 16 by Guthrum |
It's more that the minimum threshold giving a hard refuse has now gone. If Brentford offer lower and the player is determined to go, then we are somewhat caught.
Do we attempt to hold Hutchinson to his contract against his will? That can get messy and be a source of disruption in the dressing room. Possibly deprive us of his services anyway if he goes on strike. What are we going to do, sack him? |
Disagree on this, if they offered 35m they aren’t all of a sudden going to offer less.
The clause would have been 35m if paid up front, they obviously didn’t do this. I still think we accept £35m but with more cash up front than they were offering yesterday and perhaps a bigger sell on.
If not Omari has 4 years left on his contract, he might be perturbed for a bit, but ultimately he’s a professional and will give his all and his value only goes up in my opinion. |  |
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