| My God this is a gamble 😬 23:23 - Sep 1 with 1736 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
On paper, we have one hell of a squad, but we’re a long way from looking like a cohesive team unit. With the core of our back to back side now completely gone, McKenna has one hell of a job on his hands to get this team to click. I’m nervous. |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 23:29 - Sep 1 with 1670 views | gainsboroughblue |
Same.
I really don't want us to go into the next window looking to buy players for positions it turns out we've recruited poorly for already. |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 00:09 - Sep 2 with 1549 views | reusersfreekicks |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 23:29 - Sep 1 by gainsboroughblue |
Same.
I really don't want us to go into the next window looking to buy players for positions it turns out we've recruited poorly for already. |
The Ogbene principle? |  | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 00:21 - Sep 2 with 1508 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You probably should be but it’s a lot more interesting than what happened for over 10 years pre Covid if nothing else.
The short term is crucial as well, 4-5 games and finishing with Norwich. Everyone will be feeling much better or it could be quite toxic if it goes wrong.
I’m not sure today’s moves really change any outlook though, just all seems to be hitting home for some. [Post edited 2 Sep 0:23]
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 01:19 - Sep 2 with 1418 views | charlie1 |
If McKenna is as heavily involved in all this summers transfer decisions as he should be, he's being incredibly brave.
He's basically backing himself to achieve, with the squad he has now, at least the same as he did with his 'first' squad.
Otherwise what's the point in ripping it apart?
Its Ferguson-esque in it's clinicalness, and if he can pull it off then he'll be right up there with the very best to have sat in that chair. |  | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 01:41 - Sep 2 with 1387 views | mutters |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 01:19 - Sep 2 by charlie1 |
If McKenna is as heavily involved in all this summers transfer decisions as he should be, he's being incredibly brave.
He's basically backing himself to achieve, with the squad he has now, at least the same as he did with his 'first' squad.
Otherwise what's the point in ripping it apart?
Its Ferguson-esque in it's clinicalness, and if he can pull it off then he'll be right up there with the very best to have sat in that chair. |
He inherited a lot of his first squad and made it work. Am pretty sure he knows what he's doing and will come good |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 02:08 - Sep 2 with 1365 views | charlie1 |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 01:41 - Sep 2 by mutters |
He inherited a lot of his first squad and made it work. Am pretty sure he knows what he's doing and will come good |
I agree.
I'm just not sure how many on here have the same measured view.
McKenna swings from being the Messiah to the Anti-Christ about 20 times a game depending on the latest excellent pass or piece of poor positioning. | | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 02:38 - Sep 2 with 1335 views | Cafe_Newman |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 00:21 - Sep 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You probably should be but it’s a lot more interesting than what happened for over 10 years pre Covid if nothing else.
The short term is crucial as well, 4-5 games and finishing with Norwich. Everyone will be feeling much better or it could be quite toxic if it goes wrong.
I’m not sure today’s moves really change any outlook though, just all seems to be hitting home for some. [Post edited 2 Sep 0:23]
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Our fans have more of a history of being patient when results don't go our way than becoming "toxic". I hope and expect we'll afford Kieran the same patience and support as we have done in the past as he's already proven himself to be a very impressive coach and I think we'd be bonkers to force him out with any toxicity.
If there's one person currently at the club that looks placed to achieve greater things, it's Kieran McKenna. So, I'd rather we did our best for as long as possible to keep him at Ipswich for as long as possible.
EDIT: I should acknowledge that you Joey-Joe are not calling for KMcK's head, nor are you trying to bring on toxicity at the club while the results are not coming in. [Post edited 2 Sep 2:42]
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 04:56 - Sep 2 with 1250 views | MK1 |
Football is played on grass though. |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 05:23 - Sep 2 with 1215 views | BeachBlue |
With respect, I don't think we should consider ourselves as negative or afraid of change.
I think a lot of us are sad that the established favourites have moved on and an era has ended. I know I am.
... and that's perfectly okay, we just need some time to adjust. |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 06:08 - Sep 2 with 1130 views | RIPbobby |
We have essentially just reduced the age of the squad a lot these past 2 months. There is a lot of potential for us. We just need to find a new way to play as teams are just going to use matches against us as one-off confidence boosters. None will try and beat us. |  | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 06:51 - Sep 2 with 997 views | Vic |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 01:19 - Sep 2 by charlie1 |
If McKenna is as heavily involved in all this summers transfer decisions as he should be, he's being incredibly brave.
He's basically backing himself to achieve, with the squad he has now, at least the same as he did with his 'first' squad.
Otherwise what's the point in ripping it apart?
Its Ferguson-esque in it's clinicalness, and if he can pull it off then he'll be right up there with the very best to have sat in that chair. |
Exactly my thoughts.
He's pretty much dismantled a ream that were 'promotion favourites' and putvtogether a whole new one in one window.
From a footballing aspect that's incredibly brave - or vert stupid. At the same time he's pushed many fans trust to the very, very limit, and on the back of a very, very poor prem season has in both cases legt himself very vulnerzble because I think hes just about used up all his credit in the bank.
The next 2 months are going to be very, very interesting. I really really hope he proves himself to be right - I'm sure he and Ashton do too!! |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 07:03 - Sep 2 with 922 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 02:08 - Sep 2 by charlie1 |
I agree.
I'm just not sure how many on here have the same measured view.
McKenna swings from being the Messiah to the Anti-Christ about 20 times a game depending on the latest excellent pass or piece of poor positioning. |
A point I have made many times. He has achieved great things, albeit with the backing he received in League 1, anything but promotion would have been a failure.
I remain jury out, last season worried me from a managerial point of view. Forget results, more a failure to adapt, a Plan B. I never understand the look where we have come from attitude, having such low ambition isn't how successful clubs or businesses work.
The board have invested heavily, tough decisions ahead if KMK can't turn things around quickly. It's squeaky bum time for us fans. | | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 08:42 - Sep 2 with 709 views | Scuzzer |
And two clear weeks to bring them all together. No probs. |  |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 09:57 - Sep 2 with 586 views | Bluemike31 |
If you are getting paid 5 Million a year you have to do the business, especially when you've been backed to the hilt again, excuses will be running out. We have the quality individuals here, now do your job. | | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:07 - Sep 2 with 534 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Is it though? I'm cacking myself as much as the next fan, but would keeping Woolf and Chappers as mascots really have changed much? It has snowballed a bit as the reality of new signings hit the older guard I suspect, but it was always happening and had a momentum ever since we were promoted to the prem in reality.
Scary, and might go wrong, but inevitable really, and there was potentially more likelihood of it going wrong if we'd clung to the old guard in a vague hope of repeating those glory seasons after the world kept turning. [Post edited 2 Sep 11:44]
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:08 - Sep 2 with 521 views | blueoutlook |
Make or break for KM. I’m not convinced he knows what he is doing anymore. |  | | |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:16 - Sep 2 with 479 views | baxterbasics |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 08:42 - Sep 2 by Scuzzer |
And two clear weeks to bring them all together. No probs. |
Whilst half are away with their national teams
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:17 - Sep 2 with 458 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:08 - Sep 2 by blueoutlook |
Make or break for KM. I’m not convinced he knows what he is doing anymore. |
"The Emperor's New Clothes" springs to mind.
He's been told for so long now that he's the messiah of management, that I wonder if he can no longer see his own faults.
I don't doubt that he is a top quality young manager, and going to the top, but he's getting a bit of a reality check at the moment, and it's time to adapt and prove himself once again. | |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:25 - Sep 2 with 418 views | baxterbasics |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:17 - Sep 2 by ThatMuhrenCross |
"The Emperor's New Clothes" springs to mind.
He's been told for so long now that he's the messiah of management, that I wonder if he can no longer see his own faults.
I don't doubt that he is a top quality young manager, and going to the top, but he's getting a bit of a reality check at the moment, and it's time to adapt and prove himself once again. |
I am not sure he's quite been told that! But he has enjoyed stunning success in his first 2 full seasons as 1st team manager in the game.
Was it a fluke? A one off perfect storm of circumstances? Is his ability forever rooted to Lg 1 / Championship underdog level and he'll never cut it as a Prem hopeful with a big budget?
Am hoping not. Sad to think that 22/23/24 seasons might be the best times some fans will *ever* experience and we could be in for another 20 years of mediocrity. We were spoiled. | |
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| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 11:06 - Sep 2 with 298 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| My God this is a gamble 😬 on 10:25 - Sep 2 by baxterbasics |
I am not sure he's quite been told that! But he has enjoyed stunning success in his first 2 full seasons as 1st team manager in the game.
Was it a fluke? A one off perfect storm of circumstances? Is his ability forever rooted to Lg 1 / Championship underdog level and he'll never cut it as a Prem hopeful with a big budget?
Am hoping not. Sad to think that 22/23/24 seasons might be the best times some fans will *ever* experience and we could be in for another 20 years of mediocrity. We were spoiled. |
OK, I tend to be a glass half-full guy, with a dose of realism added. That may influence this opinion, but I think it's unlikely that the club will return to mediocrity in the short to medium term.
Why?
The owners are ambitious, and have a clear goal in mind. To become an established PL club by the next decade. That's an 8-10 year strategy (if you count from when ownership changed). We've often heard that we're ahead of schedule - and that it very believable with promotion to the PL within 3 years, from being a mediocre L1 club at the time. I'm certain they would have expected it to take 5-6 years to reach the PL from that starting position, given the very poor state the club was in.
The investors involved will shift as you progress along that timeline - it's the nature of many investors. Depending on what type of risk you are looking for, you will join and leave an investment at different points in the cycle. As long as Gamechanger remain a constant (which we have no reason to believe they won't), since they 'own' the strategy then changes in investor profile will have little impact.
The next 2 years are critical IMO - you can imagine that the goal was to be stable (not necessarily established) in the PL by 2027/28, with the following 5 years to become established. I surmise that this is what they are trying to build right now - the foundations for a club that re-enters the PL in 1-2 seasons with a high chance of survival, and then build from that. Acquiring many young players with potential is part of this - some of which are academy players, so will not benefit us for a few years. That benefit would be a combination of a funding injection (player trading) and players for the 1st team.
The result's from this won't be instant, but does build the foundations for sustainable long term success. Unfortunately it doesn't necessarily provide instant gratification for those that expect it, but for those that want our club to once again be seen as an elite, successful club, it seems like the correct approach. | | | |
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