| Ref yesterday 14:01 - Sep 21 with 847 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I’ve been fairly vocal about controlling what you can control and stop moaning when we lose about officials. However, I thought yesterday, he was one of the worst I’ve ever seen, giving fouls that were not free kicks which very much encouraged Cantwell to play his “style” even more.
Not sure Hirsts booking was a free kick and that’s not being a 90s kid, it was just a decent tackle wasn’t it? He gave a foul against Matisuwa looking right at it when there was basically no contact. Could not wait to flash the cards. I’m sure we got the odd one for minimal contact on Philogene as well but overall we got the worst of it. Would have to see the Pen again. Greaves was a clear red so not annoyed with that just the general way we went about the game.
I give credit for some refs at least trying to allow the game to flow even if they make some errors but this guy was an utter joke. Even though Sheffield United at home was and easy game to referee you could tell that guy had actually played professional football, he was decent. Yesterday not so much. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:02 - Sep 21 with 808 views | Herbivore |
Mate, we can't keep blaming the refs all the time.
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| Ref yesterday on 14:04 - Sep 21 with 783 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Ref yesterday on 14:02 - Sep 21 by Herbivore |
Mate, we can't keep blaming the refs all the time.
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lol, fair from you but yesterday I hit my limit and as we didn’t technically lose I couldn’t hold it in. Shocking! | |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:04 - Sep 21 with 781 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
He was awful. From start to 11 minutes before the finish.
Seemed intent on making it about him.
I struggle to understand why so many referees now don't seem to have any real love for football. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:05 - Sep 21 with 754 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Ref yesterday on 14:04 - Sep 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
He was awful. From start to 11 minutes before the finish.
Seemed intent on making it about him.
I struggle to understand why so many referees now don't seem to have any real love for football. |
Sometimes on here people exaggerate but I could not get over that show yesterday, he was a joke. | |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:06 - Sep 21 with 749 views | FrimleyBlue |
You can't have games without refs
but the FA must seriously look into the standard.
From non league to Prem, and even in prem now, the standard of officiating is shocking. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:06 - Sep 21 with 745 views | Herbivore |
| Ref yesterday on 14:04 - Sep 21 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
lol, fair from you but yesterday I hit my limit and as we didn’t technically lose I couldn’t hold it in. Shocking! |
I was only listening but it did sound like he had a poor game. No complaints on the two big decisions but sounded like he was consistently poor outside of those calls. | |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:07 - Sep 21 with 739 views | _clive_baker_ |
He got most the big stuff right, I don’t think Greaves can have any complaints and the penalty was stone wall.
Biggest mistake he made was not calling a stop to it well before he eventually did. It wasn’t a football match, it was quite fun to watch but only because of how ridiculous it was. |  | | |
| Ref yesterday on 14:09 - Sep 21 with 699 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Ref yesterday on 14:07 - Sep 21 by _clive_baker_ |
He got most the big stuff right, I don’t think Greaves can have any complaints and the penalty was stone wall.
Biggest mistake he made was not calling a stop to it well before he eventually did. It wasn’t a football match, it was quite fun to watch but only because of how ridiculous it was. |
Again it wasn’t the game changing decisions I had a problem with, more the first half, he was just ruining any attempt at an already uphill battle we were having to try and engage in a game of football. | |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:10 - Sep 21 with 687 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Ref yesterday on 14:06 - Sep 21 by Herbivore |
I was only listening but it did sound like he had a poor game. No complaints on the two big decisions but sounded like he was consistently poor outside of those calls. |
I do have a question about the pen though
In the prem this season there was an occasion where there was an accidental clash and after var, no pen was given
as furlong hadn't attempted a tackle but it was an accidental clash it appears, then perhaps it shouldnt have been a pen? Not one i'd call a ref error, but curious about the accidental clash argument | |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:12 - Sep 21 with 650 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Ref yesterday on 14:06 - Sep 21 by FrimleyBlue |
You can't have games without refs
but the FA must seriously look into the standard.
From non league to Prem, and even in prem now, the standard of officiating is shocking. |
I would say it’s a ridiculously hard job, especially with the level fitness of these players have these days and the obvious cheating some teams engage in. However, to me it appears that the European standard is better from what I’ve seen. | |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:15 - Sep 21 with 619 views | Garv |
I was only watching a stream so didn't exactly have a great view but in terms of which way he was giving things I thought it was fairly even, I thought we did get a few cheap ones too. You're spot on about Hirst, though.
Either way, you don't need to be biased (not saying you are) to point out when a referee is managing a game badly. He was just blowing up far too often and not letting the game flow.
I do sometimes think players are to blame for whistle happy referees because they are constantly diving and wanting fouls, so the official is often duped into thinking everything needs to be given one way or the other, but it just needs a simple "50/50 - play on" shout sometimes. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:22 - Sep 21 with 540 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Ref yesterday on 14:15 - Sep 21 by Garv |
I was only watching a stream so didn't exactly have a great view but in terms of which way he was giving things I thought it was fairly even, I thought we did get a few cheap ones too. You're spot on about Hirst, though.
Either way, you don't need to be biased (not saying you are) to point out when a referee is managing a game badly. He was just blowing up far too often and not letting the game flow.
I do sometimes think players are to blame for whistle happy referees because they are constantly diving and wanting fouls, so the official is often duped into thinking everything needs to be given one way or the other, but it just needs a simple "50/50 - play on" shout sometimes. |
I’m usually the opposite, I can’t stand blaming refs for losing games. There’s been some ridiculous desperate threads on here over the years when we needed to be looking at ourselves. Swear there was a 5 pager about that Brentford corner where people wouldn’t let it go, didn’t know the laws of the game and wouldn’t call out our defending either.
It was more job as observation on yesterday and I do think we got the worse of it. As I noted Philogene got awarded a couple for a very minimal contact as well so you’re right about a few cheap ones. It’s refs like this that annoy me the most. If you get one big call wrong the other team will lose it on you but that’s just a potentially a tough one off call you have to make in real time. It’s more style and almost conscious effort to continuously stop the game that got to me yesterday. This type of officiating ruins any flow.
Main character syndrome. [Post edited 21 Sep 14:26]
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| Ref yesterday on 14:31 - Sep 21 with 464 views | Dubtractor |
We've had him a number of times and he has been crap every time.
He was the ref for the disallowed goal at home to Barnsley a couple of years back. One of those refs where it becomes all about him, rather than letting the game flow.
That Hirst tackle was forceful, but fair, and to book him fir it was a joke. All first half, if Blackburn appealed for long enough, they got the decision.
Red was as clear cut as it gets, so no complaints on that. Still not seen a brilliant view of the penalty tbh, so not sure to what extent Furlong caught him as Furlong himself looked like he slipped and lost balance. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:32 - Sep 21 with 450 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ref yesterday on 14:09 - Sep 21 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Again it wasn’t the game changing decisions I had a problem with, more the first half, he was just ruining any attempt at an already uphill battle we were having to try and engage in a game of football. |
Yeah he was certainly toss, but they all are. | | | |
| Ref yesterday on 14:39 - Sep 21 with 386 views | Dyland |
| Ref yesterday on 14:31 - Sep 21 by Dubtractor |
We've had him a number of times and he has been crap every time.
He was the ref for the disallowed goal at home to Barnsley a couple of years back. One of those refs where it becomes all about him, rather than letting the game flow.
That Hirst tackle was forceful, but fair, and to book him fir it was a joke. All first half, if Blackburn appealed for long enough, they got the decision.
Red was as clear cut as it gets, so no complaints on that. Still not seen a brilliant view of the penalty tbh, so not sure to what extent Furlong caught him as Furlong himself looked like he slipped and lost balance. |
Was that Barnsley game also when the ref pranced ostentatiously into the box to give the oppo a penalty for a non foul that happened outside the box?
The disallowed goal was after consulting with the linesman yeh? If that had been at Hillsborough the linesman would've been decapitated. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:49 - Sep 21 with 305 views | Illinoisblue |
The Hirst yellow was a scandal. Perfect tackle. And when your main outlet striker is on a yellow that automatically changes the way they/we play.
The red and pen were correct. Many other decisions made no sense |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:52 - Sep 21 with 283 views | Basuco |
I felt he was mostly pretty consistent, but made no consideration for the pitch condition on tackles that were border line fouls. Soft decisions both ways, although Cantwell played him better than most. With players running through puddles of water on our right back area of the pitch and it the centre circle area in the first half with no falling rain, after heavy rain at half time the entire pitch quickly had standing water on it. The match should have been abandoned much earlier, 10 minutes into the 2nd half, the decision to continue playing was both dangerous to players and reckless by the referee not to see that it was unplayable in many areas.. |  | | |
| Ref yesterday on 14:53 - Sep 21 with 276 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Ref yesterday on 14:04 - Sep 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
He was awful. From start to 11 minutes before the finish.
Seemed intent on making it about him.
I struggle to understand why so many referees now don't seem to have any real love for football. |
Indeed. Even the way he was trying to roll/bounce the ball at the end looked performative. It was pretty obvious the pitch wasn't playable. The rain hadn't ceased from since he took the players off, so how was he expecting it to be any better? |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:57 - Sep 21 with 244 views | LankHenners |
One of those ones that wanted to be the centre of attention. Blew his whistle at every throw in even if the taker was standing in the correct position, which is a clear sign of a ref that just likes the authority of being in charge.
That was a lovely steal by Matusiwa as well - ref seemed to think any tackle that’s done from behind is an automatic foul the prat. |  |
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| Ref yesterday on 14:59 - Sep 21 with 216 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Ref yesterday on 14:52 - Sep 21 by Basuco |
I felt he was mostly pretty consistent, but made no consideration for the pitch condition on tackles that were border line fouls. Soft decisions both ways, although Cantwell played him better than most. With players running through puddles of water on our right back area of the pitch and it the centre circle area in the first half with no falling rain, after heavy rain at half time the entire pitch quickly had standing water on it. The match should have been abandoned much earlier, 10 minutes into the 2nd half, the decision to continue playing was both dangerous to players and reckless by the referee not to see that it was unplayable in many areas.. |
He was consistently stopping the game for non fouls yes. | |
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| Ref yesterday on 15:07 - Sep 21 with 153 views | Dubtractor |
| Ref yesterday on 14:39 - Sep 21 by Dyland |
Was that Barnsley game also when the ref pranced ostentatiously into the box to give the oppo a penalty for a non foul that happened outside the box?
The disallowed goal was after consulting with the linesman yeh? If that had been at Hillsborough the linesman would've been decapitated. |
Yep. Thats the one. | |
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| Ref yesterday on 15:10 - Sep 21 with 131 views | SitfcB |
| Ref yesterday on 14:57 - Sep 21 by LankHenners |
One of those ones that wanted to be the centre of attention. Blew his whistle at every throw in even if the taker was standing in the correct position, which is a clear sign of a ref that just likes the authority of being in charge.
That was a lovely steal by Matusiwa as well - ref seemed to think any tackle that’s done from behind is an automatic foul the prat. |
He’s always been like that. Jumped up prat with his tight shirt to show off his muscles.
Shouldn’t be allowed to ref us again after costing us the League 1 title!!!!!
[EDIT - would’ve still needed another point to win the league but point still stands, that Harness goal was a perfectly good goal) [Post edited 21 Sep 15:11]
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