| Landlords 13:24 - Mar 19 with 2395 views | BlueNomad |
Son of a friend is at Uni and keeps himself going by working part-time in a restaurant. He's been laid-off and asked landlord if he can pay 50% rent until he gets sorted and can back-pay.
Answer - "no you signed a contact and need to pay in full."
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| Landlords on 13:26 - Mar 19 with 1980 views | hampstead_blue |
Who pays the landlords mortgage?
It's a real dilemma. You need to keep some type of liquidity moving. I'd ask the landlord again to compromise. |  |
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| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 with 1965 views | homer_123 |
| Landlords on 13:26 - Mar 19 by hampstead_blue |
Who pays the landlords mortgage?
It's a real dilemma. You need to keep some type of liquidity moving. I'd ask the landlord again to compromise. |
Was about to post the same.
This is the nightmare situ - unless cash keeps moving, it all grinds to a halt. |  |
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| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 with 1966 views | BloomBlue |
They mentioned this morning the emergency laws the Gov is bringing in today will include something for those renting, suggest he listens to that. These are things which will become law so possibly the law will stop them doing that |  | | |
| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 with 1966 views | BlueNomad |
| Landlords on 13:26 - Mar 19 by hampstead_blue |
Who pays the landlords mortgage?
It's a real dilemma. You need to keep some type of liquidity moving. I'd ask the landlord again to compromise. |
Guess it depends how many properties the landlord is collecting on | | | |
| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 with 1966 views | Guthrum |
Especially given measures have been introduced to help with mortgages (on top of what some of the banks were already doing). |  |
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| Landlords on 13:28 - Mar 19 with 1952 views | StokieBlue |
| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 by Guthrum |
Especially given measures have been introduced to help with mortgages (on top of what some of the banks were already doing). |
I thought they said last night that landlords wouldn't be able to evict tenants for the next 3 months?
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| Landlords on 13:31 - Mar 19 with 1917 views | Guthrum |
| Landlords on 13:28 - Mar 19 by StokieBlue |
I thought they said last night that landlords wouldn't be able to evict tenants for the next 3 months?
SB |
That's just coming in as well, but it doesn't prevent the landlord kicking them out at the end of that period. | |
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| Landlords on 13:31 - Mar 19 with 1915 views | Deano69 |
| Landlords on 13:28 - Mar 19 by StokieBlue |
I thought they said last night that landlords wouldn't be able to evict tenants for the next 3 months?
SB |
It takes 2 months of 'non-payment' before a landlord can legally act, then you need to get the paperwork side completed.
Suspect there will be a lot of this to come.... |  |
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| Landlords on 13:32 - Mar 19 with 1901 views | Pendejo |
Is his landlord Nicholas Van Hessen [formerly Hoogstraten]?? |  |
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| Landlords on 13:36 - Mar 19 with 1880 views | hampstead_blue |
| Landlords on 13:32 - Mar 19 by Pendejo |
Is his landlord Nicholas Van Hessen [formerly Hoogstraten]?? |
I rented from him in Brighton in 2003.
His agents were utter (insert).
Anyhow, landlords normally ask for a tenant to sign a form which is notice to evict. Can't recall the name.
It takes a min of three months to get you out.
Problem is that you may have a guarantor who will be on the hook. Big potential problems with credit ratings as well.
The only option is to pay but keep talking and keep it very polite, calm, and never adversarial.
If it does go to court you retain whatever moral high ground there is. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Landlords on 13:41 - Mar 19 with 1872 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 by Guthrum |
Especially given measures have been introduced to help with mortgages (on top of what some of the banks were already doing). |
I don’t think the mortgage lenders actually know what these government measures are yet.
Yesterday I enquired out of concern for my daughter and was told that the details hadn’t been conveyed yet.
Just as with the cancelling of exams yesterday (my youngest was due to take A level exams in June) I find it difficult to understand how announcements can be made without the basic implementation details. |  | | |
| Landlords on 13:47 - Mar 19 with 1845 views | gordon |
| Landlords on 13:27 - Mar 19 by BloomBlue |
They mentioned this morning the emergency laws the Gov is bringing in today will include something for those renting, suggest he listens to that. These are things which will become law so possibly the law will stop them doing that |
I think they announced something along the lines of 'we would expect landlords and tenants to come to a sensible agreement.' |  | | |
| Landlords on 14:23 - Mar 19 with 1772 views | sparks |
| Landlords on 13:31 - Mar 19 by Deano69 |
It takes 2 months of 'non-payment' before a landlord can legally act, then you need to get the paperwork side completed.
Suspect there will be a lot of this to come.... |
Not correct on the 2 months. That's only a pre condition for a mandatory order under ground 8. |  |
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| Landlords on 14:34 - Mar 19 with 1745 views | sparks |
| Landlords on 13:36 - Mar 19 by hampstead_blue |
I rented from him in Brighton in 2003.
His agents were utter (insert).
Anyhow, landlords normally ask for a tenant to sign a form which is notice to evict. Can't recall the name.
It takes a min of three months to get you out.
Problem is that you may have a guarantor who will be on the hook. Big potential problems with credit ratings as well.
The only option is to pay but keep talking and keep it very polite, calm, and never adversarial.
If it does go to court you retain whatever moral high ground there is. |
Landlords cant get you to sign a notice. And it can be quicker than 3 months. | |
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| Landlords on 14:43 - Mar 19 with 1710 views | Ryorry |
This kind of thing makes me hopping mad, gives all landlords a bad name.
Told my tenant not to worry if the worst comes to the worst, we can sort something out (he's in a salaried senior position in a supposedly reputable family firm that certainly isn't strapped for cash, but he was told yesterday that if he has to self-isolate, it'll be unpaid :( ). |  |
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| Landlords on 15:07 - Mar 19 with 1665 views | monytowbray |
| Landlords on 14:34 - Mar 19 by sparks |
Landlords cant get you to sign a notice. And it can be quicker than 3 months. |
Could that be done by force, pressure or intimidation?
If so, I'm worried.
I have a good relationship with my landlord and emailed him to reassure him rent will come in this month. Beyond that though, can't make any promises.
Also it seems silly to kick anyone out RN, I don't think anyone's going to be running out to rent a place any time soon unless they are desperate and lucky enough to have money. If I were to lose my flat I'd have to move back in with my parents. Very lucky to have that safety net but many do not. [Post edited 19 Mar 2020 15:09]
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| Landlords on 15:09 - Mar 19 with 1656 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Landlords on 15:07 - Mar 19 by monytowbray |
Could that be done by force, pressure or intimidation?
If so, I'm worried.
I have a good relationship with my landlord and emailed him to reassure him rent will come in this month. Beyond that though, can't make any promises.
Also it seems silly to kick anyone out RN, I don't think anyone's going to be running out to rent a place any time soon unless they are desperate and lucky enough to have money. If I were to lose my flat I'd have to move back in with my parents. Very lucky to have that safety net but many do not. [Post edited 19 Mar 2020 15:09]
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I would expect there to be further help and guidance on this sort of thing |  |
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| Landlords on 15:10 - Mar 19 with 1654 views | Ryorry |
| Landlords on 13:47 - Mar 19 by gordon |
I think they announced something along the lines of 'we would expect landlords and tenants to come to a sensible agreement.' |
Email this a.m. from RLA -
"Coronavirus reforms
Dear
As part of their ongoing response to the coronavirus pandemic, the Government has now announced a series of temporary reforms to the private rented sector. This is in addition to the ongoing requirements for individual health.
The package of reforms to assist renters are:
Emergency legislation to prevent existing and new eviction proceedings for at least the next three months.
Widening the pre-action protocol for social landlords to include private rented sector landlords.
Ensuring that buy-to-let lenders will offer a mortgage holiday of up to three months for private landlords whose tenants have been impacted by coronavirus. This is on the understanding that landlords will be expected to offer a similar rent holiday to their tenants.
To help landlords navigate these changes we have updated our guidance on coronavirus. Separate guides are now available for Property Management, Minimising Health Risks, Changes to the Possession Rules and Financial Support for Landlords.
These pages include guidance on how mortgage holidays work, what landlords may need to do to follow the pre-action protocol, advice on miminising health risks, advertising properties and a range of other questions.
We intend to build on these pages over time as more details become available so you should check back regularly for updates.
Kind regards
RLA"
https://news.rla.org.uk/coronavirus-buy-to-let-payment-holiday-and-eviction-ban- | |
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| Landlords on 15:15 - Mar 19 with 1645 views | BloomBlue |
| Landlords on 13:47 - Mar 19 by gordon |
I think they announced something along the lines of 'we would expect landlords and tenants to come to a sensible agreement.' |
My understanding was in some situations they have to change the law to actually stop certain things ie landlords evicting tenants rather than just say they cannot because under current law they could go to court and overrule it. In other words the government isn't above the law
Hence my today they are bringing in emergency laws, although I don't know if that does include preventing landlords from evicting tenants.
I know Labour wants the new laws to be reviewed after 6 months than the standard 1 years which makes sense | | | |
| Landlords on 15:53 - Mar 19 with 1592 views | WeWereZombies |
| Landlords on 15:07 - Mar 19 by monytowbray |
Could that be done by force, pressure or intimidation?
If so, I'm worried.
I have a good relationship with my landlord and emailed him to reassure him rent will come in this month. Beyond that though, can't make any promises.
Also it seems silly to kick anyone out RN, I don't think anyone's going to be running out to rent a place any time soon unless they are desperate and lucky enough to have money. If I were to lose my flat I'd have to move back in with my parents. Very lucky to have that safety net but many do not. [Post edited 19 Mar 2020 15:09]
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A contract signed under duress is not binding, trouble is that you have to be able to demonstrate that it was signed as a result of undue pressure. |  |
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| Landlords on 15:55 - Mar 19 with 1585 views | monytowbray |
| Landlords on 15:10 - Mar 19 by Ryorry |
Email this a.m. from RLA -
"Coronavirus reforms
Dear
As part of their ongoing response to the coronavirus pandemic, the Government has now announced a series of temporary reforms to the private rented sector. This is in addition to the ongoing requirements for individual health.
The package of reforms to assist renters are:
Emergency legislation to prevent existing and new eviction proceedings for at least the next three months.
Widening the pre-action protocol for social landlords to include private rented sector landlords.
Ensuring that buy-to-let lenders will offer a mortgage holiday of up to three months for private landlords whose tenants have been impacted by coronavirus. This is on the understanding that landlords will be expected to offer a similar rent holiday to their tenants.
To help landlords navigate these changes we have updated our guidance on coronavirus. Separate guides are now available for Property Management, Minimising Health Risks, Changes to the Possession Rules and Financial Support for Landlords.
These pages include guidance on how mortgage holidays work, what landlords may need to do to follow the pre-action protocol, advice on miminising health risks, advertising properties and a range of other questions.
We intend to build on these pages over time as more details become available so you should check back regularly for updates.
Kind regards
RLA"
https://news.rla.org.uk/coronavirus-buy-to-let-payment-holiday-and-eviction-ban- |
Sounds pretty optional to me as to whether or not the landlord wants to follow it. | |
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| Landlords on 16:50 - Mar 19 with 1503 views | sparks |
| Landlords on 15:53 - Mar 19 by WeWereZombies |
A contract signed under duress is not binding, trouble is that you have to be able to demonstrate that it was signed as a result of undue pressure. |
To remove someone from a rental property against their will- you need a court order, and an eviction warrant.
End of story | |
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| Landlords on 16:54 - Mar 19 with 1488 views | DanTheMan |
| Landlords on 13:26 - Mar 19 by hampstead_blue |
Who pays the landlords mortgage?
It's a real dilemma. You need to keep some type of liquidity moving. I'd ask the landlord again to compromise. |
I thought the banks were offering 3 months "holiday". Can they not use that? |  |
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| Landlords on 16:56 - Mar 19 with 1478 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Landlords on 16:54 - Mar 19 by DanTheMan |
I thought the banks were offering 3 months "holiday". Can they not use that? |
That is a very good point Danny boy. | |
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| Landlords on 18:18 - Mar 19 with 1377 views | WeWereZombies |
| Landlords on 16:50 - Mar 19 by sparks |
To remove someone from a rental property against their will- you need a court order, and an eviction warrant.
End of story |
That is good to know but my general point about a contract signed under duress (whether for a rental property or anything else) not being binding still stands as a general principle of English Law, does it not? | |
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