This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:33 - May 3 with 1423 views | J2BLUE | It sounds logical but I don't know enough about it to comment. One that should be left to experts and women themselves IMO. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:40 - May 3 with 1381 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:33 - May 3 by J2BLUE | It sounds logical but I don't know enough about it to comment. One that should be left to experts and women themselves IMO. |
Well, you’d think the woman who wrote it and Jenner know what they’re talking about 🤷ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸ | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:44 - May 3 with 1366 views | J2BLUE |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:40 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | Well, you’d think the woman who wrote it and Jenner know what they’re talking about 🤷ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸ |
You can find anyone to back up any point though. I don't think it's a black and white issue. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:45 - May 3 with 1353 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:44 - May 3 by J2BLUE | You can find anyone to back up any point though. I don't think it's a black and white issue. |
It’s definitely one that makes a lot of people angry, on both sides. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:47 - May 3 with 1351 views | Darth_Koont | The Spectator in a nutshell. Find someone who says something, call it the definitive take and shut down the discussion. J2 is right. Leave it to the wider group of transathletes and women to resolve. I think anyone without any skin in the game (no pun intended) shouldn’t have a say. Just like anyone who is transphobic and/or misogynistic shouldn’t have a say. Caitlin Jenner’s opinion should be noted, of course. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:48 - May 3 with 1348 views | BlueBadger | Simplest solution is to have 'cis male', 'cis female' and 'non-binary' categories in sports where physical power is an influencing factor on prowess(ie running). More skill-based sports(ie archery), anything goes. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:49 - May 3 with 1346 views | J2BLUE |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:45 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | It’s definitely one that makes a lot of people angry, on both sides. |
They seem to be mainly the people pushing their ideology who don't care about the facts IMO. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:51 - May 3 with 1320 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:47 - May 3 by Darth_Koont | The Spectator in a nutshell. Find someone who says something, call it the definitive take and shut down the discussion. J2 is right. Leave it to the wider group of transathletes and women to resolve. I think anyone without any skin in the game (no pun intended) shouldn’t have a say. Just like anyone who is transphobic and/or misogynistic shouldn’t have a say. Caitlin Jenner’s opinion should be noted, of course. |
Her being an Olympic athlete It really is a tough one | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:52 - May 3 with 1320 views | footers | There are lots of frustrated middle-aged men with an intense interest in this topic, yes. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:53 - May 3 with 1307 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:48 - May 3 by BlueBadger | Simplest solution is to have 'cis male', 'cis female' and 'non-binary' categories in sports where physical power is an influencing factor on prowess(ie running). More skill-based sports(ie archery), anything goes. |
I’ve always been a fan of a clean Olympics and a drug fuelled anything goes Olympics Imagine the 100m...... oh, hang on | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:53 - May 3 with 1305 views | BlueBadger |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:53 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | I’ve always been a fan of a clean Olympics and a drug fuelled anything goes Olympics Imagine the 100m...... oh, hang on |
I wonder why, as a fan of cycling, you'd be keen on drug-fuelled sports. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:54 - May 3 with 1293 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:53 - May 3 by BlueBadger | I wonder why, as a fan of cycling, you'd be keen on drug-fuelled sports. |
🤣🤣😂😂 That was too easy | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:55 - May 3 with 1293 views | Darth_Koont |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:51 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | Her being an Olympic athlete It really is a tough one |
It’s even tougher if we don’t actually know what we’re talking about. Not a dig at you, I include myself in that. But don’t think it’s an issue that outsiders have any particular insight into. It needs to be handled sensitively and compassionately (listening more than talking) which is where I think the Spectator has always been spectacularly out of its depth. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:57 - May 3 with 1295 views | chicoazul | People go on about how Serena Williams like she is the greatest sportswoman of all time as if Caitlin Jenner doesn’t exist and it’s so disrespectful. Caitlin beat all the men! | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:58 - May 3 with 1275 views | Darth_Koont |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:52 - May 3 by footers | There are lots of frustrated middle-aged men with an intense interest in this topic, yes. |
Fascinating creatures though. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:59 - May 3 with 1250 views | Darth_Koont |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:57 - May 3 by chicoazul | People go on about how Serena Williams like she is the greatest sportswoman of all time as if Caitlin Jenner doesn’t exist and it’s so disrespectful. Caitlin beat all the men! |
God created Adam and Eve, eh Chico? | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:00 - May 3 with 1242 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:58 - May 3 by Darth_Koont | Fascinating creatures though. |
Middle aged men? Lucky I’m no longer middle aged, or so I’ve been told | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:01 - May 3 with 1248 views | BlueBadger |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:54 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | 🤣🤣😂😂 That was too easy |
Come on now, that was a 'pass onto a sixpence' assist from you that Jim Magilton himself would have been proud of. All I had to do was put a boot to it. [Post edited 3 May 2021 21:01]
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:02 - May 3 with 1229 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:01 - May 3 by BlueBadger | Come on now, that was a 'pass onto a sixpence' assist from you that Jim Magilton himself would have been proud of. All I had to do was put a boot to it. [Post edited 3 May 2021 21:01]
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I know, slide rule pass I was typing it and laughing | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:03 - May 3 with 1225 views | Darth_Koont |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:00 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | Middle aged men? Lucky I’m no longer middle aged, or so I’ve been told |
There is nothing fascinating about middle-aged men. I know this only too well. But it was a Partridge reference. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:05 - May 3 with 1208 views | BelsteadCav |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:03 - May 3 by Darth_Koont | There is nothing fascinating about middle-aged men. I know this only too well. But it was a Partridge reference. |
Ah right, I missed the partridge boat I’m afraid Only just finished watching all of Peep show | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:05 - May 3 with 1210 views | chicoazul |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:59 - May 3 by Darth_Koont | God created Adam and Eve, eh Chico? |
Who can know the unknowable? | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:07 - May 3 with 1206 views | m14_blue |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 20:52 - May 3 by footers | There are lots of frustrated middle-aged men with an intense interest in this topic, yes. |
Most of whom take great pride in rubbishing women’s sport in any other context but suddenly become its staunchest defenders. | | | |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:09 - May 3 with 1196 views | BlueBadger |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:02 - May 3 by BelsteadCav | I know, slide rule pass I was typing it and laughing |
I tell you what Bellers, with telepathy like this, WE should play up front for ITFC. I'm currently enough beer down to be Norwood, you can be Jackson last season. | |
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This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:09 - May 3 with 1187 views | Darth_Koont |
This topic got a bit heated last time on 21:05 - May 3 by chicoazul | Who can know the unknowable? |
Jesus. And he thinks you’re a bit of a tw@t. | |
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