| You know your f#cked when...... 08:08 - May 7 with 1910 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Starmer begins a party election broadcast with "I love my country....."
We continue with our Le Penn moment.....'but the Left!!!' |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 08:48 - May 7 with 1220 views | tractordownsouth |
How dare he love the country he wants to govern |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 08:52 - May 7 with 1203 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 08:48 - May 7 by tractordownsouth |
How dare he love the country he wants to govern |
The appeal to nationalism at the very start of the broadcast just said...."yep, I've got nothing!"
Edit....just a shame the focus groups didn't read the tea leaves before Brexit! [Post edited 7 May 2021 8:57]
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:01 - May 7 with 1153 views | tractordownsouth |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 08:52 - May 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
The appeal to nationalism at the very start of the broadcast just said...."yep, I've got nothing!"
Edit....just a shame the focus groups didn't read the tea leaves before Brexit! [Post edited 7 May 2021 8:57]
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Patriotism and left wing policies aren't mutually exclusive. Starmer clearly needs to up his game and should perhaps bring forward his policy agenda more quickly but until Labour understands the first sentence we'll have permanent Tory governments.
The reason Labour does so well in Wales still is because it's the only country in GB that hasn't ceded the flag and national identity to the Tories or the nationalists. [Post edited 7 May 2021 9:02]
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:11 - May 7 with 1112 views | Bluefish |
He is trying to play the game their way. It can't be easy trying to play properly while the other side cheats and wins all the time. Brexit is still destroying our nation, I've seen local comments today saying the tories have been voted in locally because they did so well on brexit. WTAF? [Post edited 7 May 2021 9:14]
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:17 - May 7 with 1090 views | Swansea_Blue |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:11 - May 7 by Bluefish |
He is trying to play the game their way. It can't be easy trying to play properly while the other side cheats and wins all the time. Brexit is still destroying our nation, I've seen local comments today saying the tories have been voted in locally because they did so well on brexit. WTAF? [Post edited 7 May 2021 9:14]
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They got it done buh! Never mind the consequences, that's all that matters to some. That it was a monumental act of national self harm predicated on lies is neither here nor there to many people.
Lost. One moral compass. If found, please return to the people of the UK. |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:26 - May 7 with 1057 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:01 - May 7 by tractordownsouth |
Patriotism and left wing policies aren't mutually exclusive. Starmer clearly needs to up his game and should perhaps bring forward his policy agenda more quickly but until Labour understands the first sentence we'll have permanent Tory governments.
The reason Labour does so well in Wales still is because it's the only country in GB that hasn't ceded the flag and national identity to the Tories or the nationalists. [Post edited 7 May 2021 9:02]
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It is the positioning at the start of the whole broadcast that got my goat....It was the point at which I swiched off and if you didn't hear the laughter from the Brexit voting working class then you have your ears closed! | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:32 - May 7 with 1037 views | nodge_blue |
And your comment is why Hartlepool has fallen to the Conservatives. You miss the point that most people are patriotic and this narrative that they shouldn't be winds them up to the extent they won't vote for a party (labour) that has forgotten that.
Its why Starmer said it.
But its not enough as they don't trust the left of the Labour party.
The left need to be ejected like they were under Kinnock. |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:34 - May 7 with 1020 views | Herbivore |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:17 - May 7 by Swansea_Blue |
They got it done buh! Never mind the consequences, that's all that matters to some. That it was a monumental act of national self harm predicated on lies is neither here nor there to many people.
Lost. One moral compass. If found, please return to the people of the UK. |
Too many people aren't feeling the consequences yet. It's easy to dismiss exports crashing and the fishing industry and farmers being utterly screwed over when you don't know any of those people personally. For many Brexit voters, life hasn't really changed post-Brexit and they'll chalk that up as a success. Maybe things will change when they head off to Spain for a holiday and spend hours queuing at passport control. |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:38 - May 7 with 1006 views | StokieBlue |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:34 - May 7 by Herbivore |
Too many people aren't feeling the consequences yet. It's easy to dismiss exports crashing and the fishing industry and farmers being utterly screwed over when you don't know any of those people personally. For many Brexit voters, life hasn't really changed post-Brexit and they'll chalk that up as a success. Maybe things will change when they head off to Spain for a holiday and spend hours queuing at passport control. |
I think the pandemic has played a big part in this. Things haven't really affected them yet because we haven't been about to do much the last year. When things start getting more normal and they are "allowed" to do things I think the consequences of Brexit will become much more visible to many.
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:39 - May 7 with 994 views | GlasgowBlue |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:26 - May 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It is the positioning at the start of the whole broadcast that got my goat....It was the point at which I swiched off and if you didn't hear the laughter from the Brexit voting working class then you have your ears closed! |
Yiu forgot to mention the haircut. |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:40 - May 7 with 1002 views | BlueBadger |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:32 - May 7 by nodge_blue |
And your comment is why Hartlepool has fallen to the Conservatives. You miss the point that most people are patriotic and this narrative that they shouldn't be winds them up to the extent they won't vote for a party (labour) that has forgotten that.
Its why Starmer said it.
But its not enough as they don't trust the left of the Labour party.
The left need to be ejected like they were under Kinnock. |
As I said yesterday, you'll never form a government by seeking to appeal to the Che Guavara T-shirt and socialist worker seller outside the Post Office crowd as Labour have been bent on doing between 2015 and 2019.
Pining for the Dear Leader is like whining that Paul Lambert should have kept his job.
Starmer is the politics equivalent of Paul Cook, endlessly shuffling his pack in a search for someone who a)isn't crap and b)actually going to play for him. [Post edited 7 May 2021 11:59]
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:41 - May 7 with 988 views | tractordownsouth |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:34 - May 7 by Herbivore |
Too many people aren't feeling the consequences yet. It's easy to dismiss exports crashing and the fishing industry and farmers being utterly screwed over when you don't know any of those people personally. For many Brexit voters, life hasn't really changed post-Brexit and they'll chalk that up as a success. Maybe things will change when they head off to Spain for a holiday and spend hours queuing at passport control. |
Cornwall Council might be worth looking at. The Newlyn seat will move away from the Tories as it's the biggest fishing port in England and they're all fuming down there. | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:44 - May 7 with 968 views | StokieBlue |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:41 - May 7 by tractordownsouth |
Cornwall Council might be worth looking at. The Newlyn seat will move away from the Tories as it's the biggest fishing port in England and they're all fuming down there. |
As an area they voted to leave though.
It's all very well being fuming now but perhaps they should have considered the consequences before they put their cross in the box?
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:47 - May 7 with 950 views | BlueBadger |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:26 - May 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It is the positioning at the start of the whole broadcast that got my goat....It was the point at which I swiched off and if you didn't hear the laughter from the Brexit voting working class then you have your ears closed! |
...plus, Paul Lambert was doing an excellent job. He's housed have been allowed another season to properly implement his long term plan. | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:48 - May 7 with 938 views | Swansea_Blue |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:34 - May 7 by Herbivore |
Too many people aren't feeling the consequences yet. It's easy to dismiss exports crashing and the fishing industry and farmers being utterly screwed over when you don't know any of those people personally. For many Brexit voters, life hasn't really changed post-Brexit and they'll chalk that up as a success. Maybe things will change when they head off to Spain for a holiday and spend hours queuing at passport control. |
Absolutely. Many people may never feel direct consequences (which also says a lot about the lies that the EU used to control everything, bt that's another story). And they simply don't care about people who are impacted. We're turning into a nation of selfish a-holes.
Stokie's pont about the pandemic is very relevant too. Brexit impacts have certainly been overshadowed so far. Although I suspect the big Covid recovery forecast for this year will again mask a lot of the effects and be milked for all it's worth by the Government (even though we'll still all be in worse position than we were before the Tories started wrecking the place). | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:53 - May 7 with 911 views | itfcjoe |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:34 - May 7 by Herbivore |
Too many people aren't feeling the consequences yet. It's easy to dismiss exports crashing and the fishing industry and farmers being utterly screwed over when you don't know any of those people personally. For many Brexit voters, life hasn't really changed post-Brexit and they'll chalk that up as a success. Maybe things will change when they head off to Spain for a holiday and spend hours queuing at passport control. |
They'll just blame the EU for that and not good old Boris |  |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:55 - May 7 with 907 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Labour completely screwed up with having Corbyn at the helm - whilst party membership and such might be high, that man has done more to put people off labour than ever before. Completely marginalising the North East because of his ridiculous, outdated stances on everything...and if you manage to marginalise the North East with that approach then you know you have it wrong.
I still recall the night of the last election and some of the ridiculous Corbyn at all costs type posts on here from otherwise sensible people. I dread to think what was being written on other platforms that I don't use.
Starmer is just a nothing candidate and again they can't and won't compete. The Hartlepool result was entirely predictable. |  | | |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:56 - May 7 with 900 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:32 - May 7 by nodge_blue |
And your comment is why Hartlepool has fallen to the Conservatives. You miss the point that most people are patriotic and this narrative that they shouldn't be winds them up to the extent they won't vote for a party (labour) that has forgotten that.
Its why Starmer said it.
But its not enough as they don't trust the left of the Labour party.
The left need to be ejected like they were under Kinnock. |
If only they had pushed Lexit!!
It's you missing the point if you think Starmer's faux nationalism will suck them in with his Remainer credentials. | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:57 - May 7 with 886 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:34 - May 7 by Herbivore |
Too many people aren't feeling the consequences yet. It's easy to dismiss exports crashing and the fishing industry and farmers being utterly screwed over when you don't know any of those people personally. For many Brexit voters, life hasn't really changed post-Brexit and they'll chalk that up as a success. Maybe things will change when they head off to Spain for a holiday and spend hours queuing at passport control. |
To which the response will be..."F#ckin' Spanish!" | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:01 - May 7 with 867 views | BlueBadger |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:44 - May 7 by StokieBlue |
As an area they voted to leave though.
It's all very well being fuming now but perhaps they should have considered the consequences before they put their cross in the box?
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Trouble is, cold, hard pragmatism and facts are no match for fairies, unicorns and £350M a week(roughly half the cost of privately run 'NHS' track and trace, by the way) for the NHS. | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:01 - May 7 with 867 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 09:55 - May 7 by PrideOfTheEast |
Labour completely screwed up with having Corbyn at the helm - whilst party membership and such might be high, that man has done more to put people off labour than ever before. Completely marginalising the North East because of his ridiculous, outdated stances on everything...and if you manage to marginalise the North East with that approach then you know you have it wrong.
I still recall the night of the last election and some of the ridiculous Corbyn at all costs type posts on here from otherwise sensible people. I dread to think what was being written on other platforms that I don't use.
Starmer is just a nothing candidate and again they can't and won't compete. The Hartlepool result was entirely predictable. |
If Corbyn had the confidence to push Lexit he would have cleaned up!
Funny how others have made this a thread about Jezza mind you. | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:02 - May 7 with 860 views | Swansea_Blue |
If Starmer thinks he can play the Tories at the patriotism game, he's peeing in the wind. Nothing to stop him trying though. I think Starmer's also hamstrung (possibly moreso) by character. Johnson's acting and bluster seems to win him a lot of support. Starmer is clearly the more competent and diligent man, by a HUUUUGE distance, but people don't want that for some reason. And then nobody really knows what Labour stand for, which is another issue, although possibly not as large a one as is often made out. | |
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:03 - May 7 with 853 views | StokieBlue |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:01 - May 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
If Corbyn had the confidence to push Lexit he would have cleaned up!
Funny how others have made this a thread about Jezza mind you. |
To be fair, Labour are bringing Jezza into it:
Once again I think that totally misses the context of Brexit, Covid and the UKIP votes in the last election.
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| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:07 - May 7 with 839 views | BlueBadger |
| You know your f#cked when...... on 10:01 - May 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
If Corbyn had the confidence to push Lexit he would have cleaned up!
Funny how others have made this a thread about Jezza mind you. |
If the Dear Leader had actually bothered his arse to campaign for his party's 'remain' position and use his alleged powers of He Egages with Young People(a significantly under-represented group n turnout in 2016 who probably would have swayed the result the other way) in the 2016 referendum we might have actually stayed, the Tories would now be tearing themselves apart over Blue Passports and No Foreigners whilst lurching ever further towards extremism and, in the worst case scenario, we'd probably be living under coalition government in the EU, right now. | |
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