| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford 14:07 - Jul 10 with 3688 views | ElderGrizzly |
2nd half is basically the kids plus Holy
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:09 - Jul 10 with 3202 views | wkj |
I feel for Kenlock as was one of the few players that seemed to push on a bit last season.
I can only assume Downes, Jackson and Bishop may be part of some potential deals ot PEXs |  |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:18 - Jul 10 with 3127 views | ElderGrizzly |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:09 - Jul 10 by wkj |
I feel for Kenlock as was one of the few players that seemed to push on a bit last season.
I can only assume Downes, Jackson and Bishop may be part of some potential deals ot PEXs |
They’d all be involved based on quality, so assume it is attitude? | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:20 - Jul 10 with 3112 views | BlueBadger |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:18 - Jul 10 by ElderGrizzly |
They’d all be involved based on quality, so assume it is attitude? |
Bishop is a weird one for me, he's never really struck me as 'that kind' of player - lest we forget, this is the lad who was so desperate to get playing after an injury that he was in tears when being take off after breaking down on his return.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/ipswich-town-s-teddy-bishop-vows-to-re |  |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:38 - Jul 10 with 3005 views | rgp1 |
I was always concerned when Cook came in and basically used the nuclear option. I simply cannot believe that every single pro as been classed as a complete toss pot. If that was the case surely we'd have been relegated by last Christmas. Mick Mills warned last season of the perils of a complete rebuild. |  | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:41 - Jul 10 with 2976 views | BlueBadger |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:38 - Jul 10 by rgp1 |
I was always concerned when Cook came in and basically used the nuclear option. I simply cannot believe that every single pro as been classed as a complete toss pot. If that was the case surely we'd have been relegated by last Christmas. Mick Mills warned last season of the perils of a complete rebuild. |
I can certainly believe that there was complacency around the playing squad, given that Lambert appeared to just believe that he could just put out an XI and win and didn't need to bother with coaching, tactics or motivation and that filtered down. Even Downes, who, yes he did put in a transfer request(but let's face it, he's an ambitious player who was playing for an incompetent manager at a club happy to spin its wheels) is a little odd as he's never been less than 100% committed on the pitch. | |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:42 - Jul 10 with 2975 views | Illinoisblue |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:09 - Jul 10 by wkj |
I feel for Kenlock as was one of the few players that seemed to push on a bit last season.
I can only assume Downes, Jackson and Bishop may be part of some potential deals ot PEXs |
Agree on Kenlock, he had a decent end to the season. The sooner this “bomb squad” situation is resolved, the better. |  |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:48 - Jul 10 with 2937 views | rgp1 |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:42 - Jul 10 by Illinoisblue |
Agree on Kenlock, he had a decent end to the season. The sooner this “bomb squad” situation is resolved, the better. |
Well said sir, I thought Ken lock was great at Shrewsbury. I think like many others we may lack an identity, obviously theres more new signings to come, but it's very much going to be hit the ground running. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:23 - Jul 10 with 2759 views | Geminiblue |
Seen no mention of Nolan for any of preseason so far, injured or on his way do we think? | | | |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:33 - Jul 10 with 2692 views | gordon |
Can understand allowing players to move on if there's interest, but it all smacked of Cook taking out his frustration on the players.
If Downes is desperate to leave and a championship team is in for him, then great, let him go, but freezing him out doesn't achieve anything as far as I can see, it doesn't put us in a very strong negotiating position.
Kenlock and Bishop both have their limitations football/fitness wise but I wouldn't think they're particularly difficult characters to deal with! |  | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:37 - Jul 10 with 2642 views | Fixed_It |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:23 - Jul 10 by Geminiblue |
Seen no mention of Nolan for any of preseason so far, injured or on his way do we think? |
Still injured apparently - or at least not ready to play. |  |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:38 - Jul 10 with 2643 views | HarryB |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:33 - Jul 10 by gordon |
Can understand allowing players to move on if there's interest, but it all smacked of Cook taking out his frustration on the players.
If Downes is desperate to leave and a championship team is in for him, then great, let him go, but freezing him out doesn't achieve anything as far as I can see, it doesn't put us in a very strong negotiating position.
Kenlock and Bishop both have their limitations football/fitness wise but I wouldn't think they're particularly difficult characters to deal with! |
that second half team is realistically going to be nowhere near the first team. therefore we do need 7 more players at least. as long as we can get them in before the 7th then its all good imo! | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:40 - Jul 10 with 2626 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:33 - Jul 10 by gordon |
Can understand allowing players to move on if there's interest, but it all smacked of Cook taking out his frustration on the players.
If Downes is desperate to leave and a championship team is in for him, then great, let him go, but freezing him out doesn't achieve anything as far as I can see, it doesn't put us in a very strong negotiating position.
Kenlock and Bishop both have their limitations football/fitness wise but I wouldn't think they're particularly difficult characters to deal with! |
Are we starting this one up again?
There is clearly an issue, with application in training, attitude or any other number of issues. We simply don't know what the issue is, and its churlish to suggest that Cook, an experienced football manager, who has seen all of these players at close quarters, has it all wrong and we know these players 'better'.
Downes wants out and none of the other three have shown any proof that they are willing to die for this football club or even to get the next level.
Bishop is 24 and should be controlling games, pulling the strings, he doesn't.
Kenlock has had repeated chances to make the position his own, and had failed, repeatedly.
Jackson, has done less to justify his fee than Tamas Priskin.
Time to go. |  |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:56 - Jul 10 with 2545 views | nshearman1 |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:33 - Jul 10 by gordon |
Can understand allowing players to move on if there's interest, but it all smacked of Cook taking out his frustration on the players.
If Downes is desperate to leave and a championship team is in for him, then great, let him go, but freezing him out doesn't achieve anything as far as I can see, it doesn't put us in a very strong negotiating position.
Kenlock and Bishop both have their limitations football/fitness wise but I wouldn't think they're particularly difficult characters to deal with! |
Pathetic Willy-waving IMHO. Most of these players will kick on and do well with other clubs. Didn’t Hurst do something similar? We’ve made god signings but Cook is lucky he’s got good owners backing him. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:07 - Jul 10 with 2502 views | wrightsrightglove |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:56 - Jul 10 by nshearman1 |
Pathetic Willy-waving IMHO. Most of these players will kick on and do well with other clubs. Didn’t Hurst do something similar? We’ve made god signings but Cook is lucky he’s got good owners backing him. |
It’s not luck though is it? He’s aware he’s got the funds and wants to bring in players of better quality. The players, owner and staff have consistently let the club down for many years now. Anyone who doesn’t want to be at the club, doesn’t want to fight for their place or isn’t better than alternative players available to us shouldn’t be at the club. We’ve been faced with mediocrity for so long I just can’t believe that anyone would back our underperforming players over a new setup and management team with proven success elsewhere. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:14 - Jul 10 with 2464 views | wrightsrightglove |
COVID outbreak within the U-23s apparently | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:20 - Jul 10 with 2439 views | wkj |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:14 - Jul 10 by wrightsrightglove |
COVID outbreak within the U-23s apparently |
If true, I am really not looking forward to what may happen over the next month or so for the return to Portman Road. | |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:24 - Jul 10 with 2414 views | wrightsrightglove |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:20 - Jul 10 by wkj |
If true, I am really not looking forward to what may happen over the next month or so for the return to Portman Road. |
It’s in the piece on the eadt, definitely doesn’t bode well for completion of this season or fans back in stadiums although I’m not sure what the rules will be once all players are double jabbed? Still have to isolate if they come into contact with someone with COVID or can they still play? | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:26 - Jul 10 with 2408 views | wkj |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:24 - Jul 10 by wrightsrightglove |
It’s in the piece on the eadt, definitely doesn’t bode well for completion of this season or fans back in stadiums although I’m not sure what the rules will be once all players are double jabbed? Still have to isolate if they come into contact with someone with COVID or can they still play? |
I believe until the 19th, the rules are that one must still self isolate, regardless of vacination status.
Of course, without getting too political, the 19th July 'Freedumb Day' seems less and less sensible as the days pass. | |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:40 - Jul 10 with 2359 views | xrayspecs |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:18 - Jul 10 by ElderGrizzly |
They’d all be involved based on quality, so assume it is attitude? |
No suggestion that it is attitude. They are simply not part of Cooks plans for the coming season.
Downes is the one who could be good enough, but has asked for a transfer. Kenlock, Jackson and Bishop are not the types of player Cook wants. Kenlock is not good enough going forward and is not the best defender either. Jackson cannot play the lone striker role, the number 10 or a wide role. Bishop was unconvincing in the 10 role last season, he is not an wide attacking player, nor is he a big physical holding midfielder. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:41 - Jul 10 with 2354 views | xrayspecs |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:42 - Jul 10 by Illinoisblue |
Agree on Kenlock, he had a decent end to the season. The sooner this “bomb squad” situation is resolved, the better. |
But we can now afford better. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:42 - Jul 10 with 2343 views | xrayspecs |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:33 - Jul 10 by gordon |
Can understand allowing players to move on if there's interest, but it all smacked of Cook taking out his frustration on the players.
If Downes is desperate to leave and a championship team is in for him, then great, let him go, but freezing him out doesn't achieve anything as far as I can see, it doesn't put us in a very strong negotiating position.
Kenlock and Bishop both have their limitations football/fitness wise but I wouldn't think they're particularly difficult characters to deal with! |
Have posted elsewhere on here. Downes wants a move. Bishop, Kenlock and Jackson are not good enough for the 4-2-3-1 formation Cook is going to play. We can also afford better. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 16:43 - Jul 10 with 2338 views | xrayspecs |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:38 - Jul 10 by HarryB |
that second half team is realistically going to be nowhere near the first team. therefore we do need 7 more players at least. as long as we can get them in before the 7th then its all good imo! |
Ashton is targeting at least five quality signings. A lot of players missing today as a lot of the U23s are self-isolating. | | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 17:18 - Jul 10 with 2205 views | Churchman |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 15:40 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Are we starting this one up again?
There is clearly an issue, with application in training, attitude or any other number of issues. We simply don't know what the issue is, and its churlish to suggest that Cook, an experienced football manager, who has seen all of these players at close quarters, has it all wrong and we know these players 'better'.
Downes wants out and none of the other three have shown any proof that they are willing to die for this football club or even to get the next level.
Bishop is 24 and should be controlling games, pulling the strings, he doesn't.
Kenlock has had repeated chances to make the position his own, and had failed, repeatedly.
Jackson, has done less to justify his fee than Tamas Priskin.
Time to go. |
I agree with this. It’s up to those players who want to be here to show that they do, just as Dobra did. If they want away, farewell. This is a situation we are not used to. More normal was players ambling in, dictating their terms (via their agents) trouser the money and do the bare minimum. The extreme version of that was people like Bullard utterly taking the p£ss once the contract was in the pocket. Greggs ahoy! Attitude - and the attitude throughout the club has been all wrong.
I suspect Cook would have done a clear out even if Poundland Evans was still in charge. It would possibly have just meant greater limitations on what we could bring in, but he’s done it before.
Do I agree with the way Cook has done things? It’s a bit of an eyebrow raiser and I’m not sure going bananas in press conferences after games was the smartest. But the general idea of wanting 100% from players and wanting people here who want to be here, I totally agree with.
One or two of the lads on the sidelines are decent. I hope they have a think about it and decide their opportunity is best served here and work to prove it. It’s effectively a new club. Cook has said the door isn’t closed and he appears to stick to his word. |  | | |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 17:29 - Jul 10 with 2170 views | positivity |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 14:38 - Jul 10 by rgp1 |
I was always concerned when Cook came in and basically used the nuclear option. I simply cannot believe that every single pro as been classed as a complete toss pot. If that was the case surely we'd have been relegated by last Christmas. Mick Mills warned last season of the perils of a complete rebuild. |
that's simply not true.
not "every single pro as been classed as a complete toss pot", some of them have moved on, some are clearly in his plans, some may have changed his mind | |
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| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 17:34 - Jul 10 with 2146 views | rgp1 |
| None of the ‘bomb squad’ involved at Dartford on 17:29 - Jul 10 by positivity |
that's simply not true.
not "every single pro as been classed as a complete toss pot", some of them have moved on, some are clearly in his plans, some may have changed his mind |
Sorry to disagree but I believe most of last season's squad were positioned under a bus in Wimbledon by our current manager. | | | |
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