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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games 09:45 - Aug 30 with 796 viewsonceablue

92 for the season then

Any team is built on solid defence we have beeb spoilt over the years with central defender pairings

Beattie Hunter
Osman Butcher
Mowbray Mcgreal
Burgess Woolfenden

No only joking with that last one

To win any game so far we would have had to score 3 goals in any game

FFS even Man City can’t do that

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 09:48 - Aug 30 with 765 viewsRomeo4

I am hoping the Burgess Edmondson combination will prove more effective in the long term. I’ve been hoping Woolfy would step up but just isn’t happening.
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 09:50 - Aug 30 with 758 viewsonceablue

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 09:48 - Aug 30 by Romeo4

I am hoping the Burgess Edmondson combination will prove more effective in the long term. I’ve been hoping Woolfy would step up but just isn’t happening.


Let’s hope so
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 09:51 - Aug 30 with 753 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 09:48 - Aug 30 by Romeo4

I am hoping the Burgess Edmondson combination will prove more effective in the long term. I’ve been hoping Woolfy would step up but just isn’t happening.


Edmondson is very much an unknown in terms of ability, so best not to pin all our hopes on him.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 10:07 - Aug 30 with 717 viewsGarv

It doesn't work like that, thankfully.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 10:08 - Aug 30 with 710 viewsRomeo4

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 09:51 - Aug 30 by Marshalls_Mullet

Edmondson is very much an unknown in terms of ability, so best not to pin all our hopes on him.


‘Hope’ is all we have to cling to! I just have a feeling that Edmondson will work out well for us. Well I hope so anyway!
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 10:10 - Aug 30 with 700 viewsWD19

On the upside, we haven’t yet conceded more than 2 in a game.
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 11:49 - Aug 30 with 602 viewsThe_Last_Baron

Mowbray and McGreal never played together. It was Venus - Mowbray - McGreal. Mowbray could no longer play in a back two as he was too slow, in a three he was fantastic.

Mark Venus must be the most underrated defender in Town's history. What a player, nearly as good on the ball as McGreal but with a beautiful left foot. Good for five goals a season and plenty of assists. A swap deal plus cash for Steve Sedgley, George Burley's best signing in my view.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 11:51 - Aug 30 with 596 viewsRomeo4

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 11:49 - Aug 30 by The_Last_Baron

Mowbray and McGreal never played together. It was Venus - Mowbray - McGreal. Mowbray could no longer play in a back two as he was too slow, in a three he was fantastic.

Mark Venus must be the most underrated defender in Town's history. What a player, nearly as good on the ball as McGreal but with a beautiful left foot. Good for five goals a season and plenty of assists. A swap deal plus cash for Steve Sedgley, George Burley's best signing in my view.


Veno was brilliant for us. A great character too.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 11:57 - Aug 30 with 585 viewschrismakin

10 goals conceded yet 0 Conceded by an opposition player in an open play attack. ( Think ive got that right?)

Goals conceded... Wolfy intercepted, Evans intercepted. Freekick, Pen
Long throw , Freekick and corner v afc. etc
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:00 - Aug 30 with 572 viewsRomeo4

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 11:57 - Aug 30 by chrismakin

10 goals conceded yet 0 Conceded by an opposition player in an open play attack. ( Think ive got that right?)

Goals conceded... Wolfy intercepted, Evans intercepted. Freekick, Pen
Long throw , Freekick and corner v afc. etc
[Post edited 30 Aug 2021 11:59]


It really does feel that another dominant CB and maybe a more confident keeper (and obviously less stupid errors) would alleviate a lot of these types of goals.

We’ll score plenty.

Feels like we’re not far off.
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:02 - Aug 30 with 561 viewschrismakin

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:00 - Aug 30 by Romeo4

It really does feel that another dominant CB and maybe a more confident keeper (and obviously less stupid errors) would alleviate a lot of these types of goals.

We’ll score plenty.

Feels like we’re not far off.


Exact reason why i've been so positive about things. We've not been outplayed, ripped apart and our defence being split open. We've literally caused all our own problems. Walton could and prob would stopped a fair few of those goals going in. For example.. would he have seen the AFC player free in the box and managed to get him marked... etc

Edmundson may be the CB you refer to. He is known for being a stubborn rock at the back. Not a baller, but a wack it type
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:04 - Aug 30 with 550 viewsTractorCam

But someone claimed we were better than Man City on the basis of compared to the rest of the division before the season started, keep the faith!

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:08 - Aug 30 with 535 viewsfranz_tyson

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 11:57 - Aug 30 by chrismakin

10 goals conceded yet 0 Conceded by an opposition player in an open play attack. ( Think ive got that right?)

Goals conceded... Wolfy intercepted, Evans intercepted. Freekick, Pen
Long throw , Freekick and corner v afc. etc
[Post edited 30 Aug 2021 11:59]


We still look vulnerable on the break, though. Better teams will take advantage in open play.

Agree to a point that we can improve our set-piece defending and stop individual mistakes, but team cut through us too easily and there’s reasons why we give too many free-kicks and corners away.
Didn’t the Morecambe first goal come from open play. And one of the goals was from a free kick well in their half. Doesn’t matter. Very brittle atm from set-pieces and open play.
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:11 - Aug 30 with 526 viewschrismakin

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:08 - Aug 30 by franz_tyson

We still look vulnerable on the break, though. Better teams will take advantage in open play.

Agree to a point that we can improve our set-piece defending and stop individual mistakes, but team cut through us too easily and there’s reasons why we give too many free-kicks and corners away.
Didn’t the Morecambe first goal come from open play. And one of the goals was from a free kick well in their half. Doesn’t matter. Very brittle atm from set-pieces and open play.


Think we'll always look open on the counters, kind of a given with how we want to attack.

Yeah you're right on the morecame one, that's the one where we had 3 players standing watchin him walk round us lol.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:02 - Aug 30 by chrismakin

Exact reason why i've been so positive about things. We've not been outplayed, ripped apart and our defence being split open. We've literally caused all our own problems. Walton could and prob would stopped a fair few of those goals going in. For example.. would he have seen the AFC player free in the box and managed to get him marked... etc

Edmundson may be the CB you refer to. He is known for being a stubborn rock at the back. Not a baller, but a wack it type
[Post edited 30 Aug 2021 12:04]


Yes I really hope Edmondson will be that dominant CB. Failing that I think Nsiala is a better option than Woolfy in this league. I like Woolfy but defending in L1 is more about physicality and positional awareness. Just don’t think Woolfy can provide enough of either of those qualities.
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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:16 - Aug 30 with 520 viewspointofblue

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:11 - Aug 30 by Romeo4

Yes I really hope Edmondson will be that dominant CB. Failing that I think Nsiala is a better option than Woolfy in this league. I like Woolfy but defending in L1 is more about physicality and positional awareness. Just don’t think Woolfy can provide enough of either of those qualities.


He’s looked far better alongside Burgess, thought Saturday was his best game of the season, though I wouldn’t be overly surprised if Cook is looking to cast him aside.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:19 - Aug 30 with 514 viewschrismakin

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:16 - Aug 30 by pointofblue

He’s looked far better alongside Burgess, thought Saturday was his best game of the season, though I wouldn’t be overly surprised if Cook is looking to cast him aside.


Wolfy just frustratingly has this 'can't be bothered' feel to his game. As you know i've always liked him... but he just doesnt fill me with confidence that he's actually concentrating for 90 odd minutes. It's quite bizarre. I almost want to see him go away on loan, then come back if he's turned into that defence we think he could be.

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Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:28 - Aug 30 with 483 viewspointofblue

Have we really conceded 10 goals already in 5 games on 12:19 - Aug 30 by chrismakin

Wolfy just frustratingly has this 'can't be bothered' feel to his game. As you know i've always liked him... but he just doesnt fill me with confidence that he's actually concentrating for 90 odd minutes. It's quite bizarre. I almost want to see him go away on loan, then come back if he's turned into that defence we think he could be.


I think concentration is his key issue. The other problem we have is Cook likes ball playing centre backs and, if it’s true that Edmundson is more of an old fashioned centre back, then Woolfenden is the only one we have in the squad. Some of cross field passes have been wonderful, Saturday again being the case. But it’s his focus that can let him down. Is he the biggest problem we have, though? For me nowhere near.

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