| Negativity around Harris... 09:00 - Dec 14 with 3109 views | TresBonne |
Jesus Christ - the man hasn't even been appointed yet and our fans are writing him off.
Give the man a chance! What's the point in setting people up for failure? |  | | |  |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:08 - Dec 14 with 2703 views | Guthrum |
He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.
Basically (if Harris is, indeed, the man), Ashton and Gamechanger have failed to deliver any of the things the fans were demanding.
Whether he will prove to be a good appointment for the Ipswich team and our route to success is entirely a different matter. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:16 - Dec 14 with 2638 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Even I, who was in no way Cook out will give Neil time and backing but it's not very inspiring. What he did at Millwall is tough to judge because his name there carries that club legend cache that perhaps inspires a little.... that doesn't carry here.
Does it feel a bit like we thought we'd get Lowe but then PNE came calling? |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:17 - Dec 14 with 2632 views | LeoMuff |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:08 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.
Basically (if Harris is, indeed, the man), Ashton and Gamechanger have failed to deliver any of the things the fans were demanding.
Whether he will prove to be a good appointment for the Ipswich team and our route to success is entirely a different matter. |
We are mid table league 1, and just given our last manager 20 league games to mould a new squad, sacking him despite play off form throughout September and October.
I doubt they were forming an orderly queue, we are currently pretty unattractive to potential candidates, a lot of our fans have completely unrealistic expectations
Harris if he is the man, has a half decent record and plays the type of football needed to get out of league 1. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:20 - Dec 14 with 2616 views | DarkHorse |
It was exactly like this when we were about to hire BFJ. Long-ball merchant, fans chanting "you can stick Joe Royle up your @rse", etc.
Idiots. |  | | |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:20 - Dec 14 with 2614 views | ArnieM |
Is he any better than Cook ?
We shall see won’t we . I hope he is , but I have my doubts and of course regardless of who the manager is he will still need TIME. Are people in here going to give him that ?
We should have given Cook the season IMO . He literally had one window…. ONE! ridiculous ( unrealistic) expectations by so many on here and at the club frankly ….
Edit : I’d rather we stick with McGreal ! [Post edited 14 Dec 2021 9:21]
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:21 - Dec 14 with 2599 views | BlueBadger |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:08 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.
Basically (if Harris is, indeed, the man), Ashton and Gamechanger have failed to deliver any of the things the fans were demanding.
Whether he will prove to be a good appointment for the Ipswich team and our route to success is entirely a different matter. |
To be honest, our fans' judgement on managers has been highly suspect over the past decade, so anything that isn't playing to them is possibly a good thing. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:23 - Dec 14 with 2577 views | ArnieM |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:21 - Dec 14 by BlueBadger |
To be honest, our fans' judgement on managers has been highly suspect over the past decade, so anything that isn't playing to them is possibly a good thing. |
OUR judgement????
PMSL….. what about this Club’s owners ? | |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:27 - Dec 14 with 2525 views | BlueBadger |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:20 - Dec 14 by ArnieM |
Is he any better than Cook ?
We shall see won’t we . I hope he is , but I have my doubts and of course regardless of who the manager is he will still need TIME. Are people in here going to give him that ?
We should have given Cook the season IMO . He literally had one window…. ONE! ridiculous ( unrealistic) expectations by so many on here and at the club frankly ….
Edit : I’d rather we stick with McGreal ! [Post edited 14 Dec 2021 9:21]
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If he actually gets the squad playing and actually winning games, he'll get time.
Over a season's worth of games, Cook failed to achieve that. With two squads. | |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:28 - Dec 14 with 2514 views | BlueBadger |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:23 - Dec 14 by ArnieM |
OUR judgement????
PMSL….. what about this Club’s owners ? |
Our fans have formed cults around our three worst ever managers(Keane, Lambert, Cook - bleat all you want, the stats don't lie) over the past decade. I strongly suspect that all those cringe-worthy banners were, for example, a factor in keeping Lambert on for far, far too long.
Thankfully, Gamechanger look to be more savvy and have sacked a failed manager rather than giving him a five year contract like the previous one did. [Post edited 14 Dec 2021 9:36]
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:32 - Dec 14 with 2489 views | TresBonne |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:08 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.
Basically (if Harris is, indeed, the man), Ashton and Gamechanger have failed to deliver any of the things the fans were demanding.
Whether he will prove to be a good appointment for the Ipswich team and our route to success is entirely a different matter. |
I don't think he's better than Cook, but that doesn't matter because I'm not in charge and Cook's gone now. Time to move on and back the new man. | | | |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:34 - Dec 14 with 2474 views | BlueBadger |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:17 - Dec 14 by LeoMuff |
We are mid table league 1, and just given our last manager 20 league games to mould a new squad, sacking him despite play off form throughout September and October.
I doubt they were forming an orderly queue, we are currently pretty unattractive to potential candidates, a lot of our fans have completely unrealistic expectations
Harris if he is the man, has a half decent record and plays the type of football needed to get out of league 1. |
We've sacked him for mid-table form for the whole season though, rather than an blip over a few weeks.
Worth pointing out, that 3 out of the top six have, like us, made signing well into double figures.
Cook has been sacked because he's failed, with the same failings, with two squads more than capable of challenging at the top end of the table. [Post edited 14 Dec 2021 9:58]
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:43 - Dec 14 with 2412 views | Chrisd |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:08 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.
Basically (if Harris is, indeed, the man), Ashton and Gamechanger have failed to deliver any of the things the fans were demanding.
Whether he will prove to be a good appointment for the Ipswich team and our route to success is entirely a different matter. |
'He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.'
What people forget is there is no guarantee these credentials or features would work either. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:46 - Dec 14 with 2357 views | ArnieM |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:28 - Dec 14 by BlueBadger |
Our fans have formed cults around our three worst ever managers(Keane, Lambert, Cook - bleat all you want, the stats don't lie) over the past decade. I strongly suspect that all those cringe-worthy banners were, for example, a factor in keeping Lambert on for far, far too long.
Thankfully, Gamechanger look to be more savvy and have sacked a failed manager rather than giving him a five year contract like the previous one did. [Post edited 14 Dec 2021 9:36]
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I agree an element of our fan base appear to “attack” our managers . Ive already alluded to this with my comment , “ how long b4 done on here start their attacks on this forum ?” Which thff eh n usually / eventually translates to the terraces doesn’t it ! But the Club makes the call on who to give the job to , not us fans .
For the record , if it is NH he WILL have my 100% support. I don’t boo our managers . But I do despair at what’s going on still, at this Club. We can’t keep changing managers . At some point we MUST stick and give the man some bloody TIME. I feel sorry for Cook , and s lucky Club is going to pick him up in the next few weeks . Good luck to them . | |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:48 - Dec 14 with 2339 views | BlueBadger |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:46 - Dec 14 by ArnieM |
I agree an element of our fan base appear to “attack” our managers . Ive already alluded to this with my comment , “ how long b4 done on here start their attacks on this forum ?” Which thff eh n usually / eventually translates to the terraces doesn’t it ! But the Club makes the call on who to give the job to , not us fans .
For the record , if it is NH he WILL have my 100% support. I don’t boo our managers . But I do despair at what’s going on still, at this Club. We can’t keep changing managers . At some point we MUST stick and give the man some bloody TIME. I feel sorry for Cook , and s lucky Club is going to pick him up in the next few weeks . Good luck to them . |
Don't feel sorry for Cook. He had a season's worth of game to get a squad out of two squads of players capable of competing at the top end of this division and failed with both. | |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:51 - Dec 14 with 2319 views | ArnieM |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:48 - Dec 14 by BlueBadger |
Don't feel sorry for Cook. He had a season's worth of game to get a squad out of two squads of players capable of competing at the top end of this division and failed with both. |
Lol, I doubt even Pep would have got a tune out of that shower inherited from Lambert! | |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:52 - Dec 14 with 2311 views | DerryfromBury |
People need to understand, we are at best a mid table league 1 team, heading in one direction unless (to quote Christian Horner "we need a miracle").
All that nonsense about Lampard, Terry, Rooney and all the other big name Charlie's is a pipe dream. The Americans have chucked enough at us for the time being, can't see them bunging Aston another sack full of dollars just yet, I for one would love to be proved wrong but I can't see it.
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:52 - Dec 14 with 2309 views | DMDC |
He has managed at a higher level than Cook has for a longer period to be fair. Im not overwhelmed if it is him. We can only wait and see how it goes. Gates will dwindle if it starts going south pretty quickly l would imagine. Cant see supporters being on board for very long if it does. |  | | |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:53 - Dec 14 with 2301 views | Radlett_blue |
Harris did take a cheaply assembled Millwall sqwuad to the Championship play offs 2 years running & then repeated the trick in his first season at Cardiff so he's not a no-hoper. Not an inspiring appointment, but in football, you never know. I guess he might be given a shorter or rolling contract & then we'll see what he achieves with Town for the rest of this season. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 09:59 - Dec 14 with 2235 views | BlueBadger |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:51 - Dec 14 by ArnieM |
Lol, I doubt even Pep would have got a tune out of that shower inherited from Lambert! |
The shower that were sitting 7th and had won three on the bounce and had been on a couple of long unbeaten runs two seasons running.
That's the ultimate indictment on Cook. He was performing worse than Lambert, but with allegedly better players. | |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 10:00 - Dec 14 with 2235 views | HighgateBlue |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:43 - Dec 14 by Chrisd |
'He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.'
What people forget is there is no guarantee these credentials or features would work either. |
Absolutely, I think Guthrum alludes to this point too.
Harris is a professional football manager with experience at a higher level than we are now at. He's not most people's first or second choices, but we can't possibly write him off, and must get right behind him if appointed... |  | | |
| Negativity around Harris... on 10:00 - Dec 14 with 2225 views | Keaneish |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:08 - Dec 14 by Guthrum |
He's not the glamorous, high-profile (or obsure but ultra-technical) appointment people were hoping for. He doesn't have a reputation for his teams playing sexy football. There's no former ITFC link.
Basically (if Harris is, indeed, the man), Ashton and Gamechanger have failed to deliver any of the things the fans were demanding.
Whether he will prove to be a good appointment for the Ipswich team and our route to success is entirely a different matter. |
Couple that with the importance of this appointment and it raises more questions than it provides answers or solves problems. What I think it does say if this does happen, is that there was no clear strategy behind Cook’s sacking, which is majorly alarming and very concerning. It would also suggest that they don’t have the pulse of the fans and this appointment immediately puts them on the back foot which feels like a gamble and not a place they’d want to be.
Every manager gets a fair shake but it would be an underwhelming step backward from the promise of what we were aiming to achieve with the credentials we had in place. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 11:00 - Dec 14 with 2121 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:28 - Dec 14 by BlueBadger |
Our fans have formed cults around our three worst ever managers(Keane, Lambert, Cook - bleat all you want, the stats don't lie) over the past decade. I strongly suspect that all those cringe-worthy banners were, for example, a factor in keeping Lambert on for far, far too long.
Thankfully, Gamechanger look to be more savvy and have sacked a failed manager rather than giving him a five year contract like the previous one did. [Post edited 14 Dec 2021 9:36]
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Says the person who have formed cults around the players who had taken us down without a fight and showed no desire to get the club back. You have formed cults around some players because ... they spoke nicely.
So each to their own. Some of our fans and you. |  | | |
| Negativity around Harris... on 11:01 - Dec 14 with 2118 views | nodge_blue |
To get it over with quicker. |  |
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| Negativity around Harris... on 11:15 - Dec 14 with 2066 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Negativity around Harris... on 09:53 - Dec 14 by Radlett_blue |
Harris did take a cheaply assembled Millwall sqwuad to the Championship play offs 2 years running & then repeated the trick in his first season at Cardiff so he's not a no-hoper. Not an inspiring appointment, but in football, you never know. I guess he might be given a shorter or rolling contract & then we'll see what he achieves with Town for the rest of this season. |
League one play-offs with Millwall, Championship with Cardiff. The short-term job here has similarities to when he took over at Cardiff, big budget and decent squad with a need to get them going. | | | |
| Negativity around Harris... on 11:40 - Dec 14 with 1990 views | Radlett_blue |
| Negativity around Harris... on 11:15 - Dec 14 by PrideOfTheEast |
League one play-offs with Millwall, Championship with Cardiff. The short-term job here has similarities to when he took over at Cardiff, big budget and decent squad with a need to get them going. |
Yes, I think Harris is being viewed as Son of Warnock. | |
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