| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise 13:25 - Jan 10 with 3751 views | tractordownsouth |
If we're going stick with the 3-4-1-2 I think it makes sense to only bring in a ball-playing defender. We have more than enough cover in every other position - putting Edwards as a LWB might seem strange but for me he has the attributes to play there because even while his end product is lacking, he's always provided good protection for the full-back. And even if that doesn't work out, Coulson is there as well. I'd be surprised to see Holy, Kenlock, Jackson and Nolan still here as well. Scott Fraser will probably have a few clubs after him too
Of course this is based on the assumption that Bonne and Walton both stay at the club, either on loan or in a permanent deal
Walton (Hladky)
Donacien (New CB)
Woolfenden (Nsiala)
Edmundson (Burgess)
Burns (KVY)
Morsy (El Mizouni)
Evans (Carroll/Harper)
Penney (Coulson/Edwards)
Aluko (Celina)
Bonne (Chaplin)
Norwood (Pigott) |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 13:38 - Jan 10 with 2874 views | markchips |
Good call. If we lose kenlock, Jackson and Nolan with Barry already gone , we probably only need one more ball paying defender. it would have been good to see Coulsen in full flight but he is injury prone and I think Edwards is a good long term bet. It will be as much convincing him he isn't a winger anymore because he can't score or assist. |  | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 15:40 - Jan 10 with 2786 views | tractordownsouth |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 13:38 - Jan 10 by markchips |
Good call. If we lose kenlock, Jackson and Nolan with Barry already gone , we probably only need one more ball paying defender. it would have been good to see Coulsen in full flight but he is injury prone and I think Edwards is a good long term bet. It will be as much convincing him he isn't a winger anymore because he can't score or assist. |
He doesn't come across as a moaner so presumably he'd be happy to play there if it helped him get in the team. And I doubt we'll play 3-4-1-2 in every game going forwards, we may even switch to a 4-4-2 like we did against Sunderland with some success, so he could fit into that formation as well. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 15:42 - Jan 10 with 2763 views | chrismakin |
Time to send Celina back to pay for Bonne/Walton imo. |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:01 - Jan 10 with 2721 views | Parsley |
I'm quite comfortable with the CBs at the club. I think 5 for 3 positions is fine, would be pretty unlucky to have 3 injuries and if that did happen can also switch to a back 4. Burgess hasn't quite found form yet but still only 26 and left footed so provides some balance. |  | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:03 - Jan 10 with 2701 views | tractordownsouth |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:01 - Jan 10 by Parsley |
I'm quite comfortable with the CBs at the club. I think 5 for 3 positions is fine, would be pretty unlucky to have 3 injuries and if that did happen can also switch to a back 4. Burgess hasn't quite found form yet but still only 26 and left footed so provides some balance. |
In terms of numbers we could probably cope with 5 but Nsiala and Burgess aren't particularly comfortable on the ball. Having one of them in there would be fine, especially playing against the physical teams, but I'd be nervous with both of them playing in a McKenna system. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:05 - Jan 10 with 2687 views | markchips |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 15:42 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Time to send Celina back to pay for Bonne/Walton imo. |
Agreed, can't see him getting back in the side based on present showings. | | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:07 - Jan 10 with 2675 views | Parsley |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:03 - Jan 10 by tractordownsouth |
In terms of numbers we could probably cope with 5 but Nsiala and Burgess aren't particularly comfortable on the ball. Having one of them in there would be fine, especially playing against the physical teams, but I'd be nervous with both of them playing in a McKenna system. |
I get your point, just don't see us signing another CB unless someone leaves. McKenna has spoken about being adaptable so hopefully would figure out a way to highlight their strengths and hide their weaknesses. Nsiala and Burgess are both decent L1 defenders. | | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:37 - Jan 10 with 2598 views | StokieBlue |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 15:42 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Time to send Celina back to pay for Bonne/Walton imo. |
Have you undertaken a cost analysis to understand how much money sending Celina back will save?
I doubt we will get any refund on the loan fee and I doubt it's anything like enough to cover the wages of those two let alone the transfer fees.
Seems to be a Celina "pile-on" nowadays. It's bizarre given he hasn't played for a few weeks and was probably one of the top performers just before his injury.
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:40 - Jan 10 with 2579 views | footers |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Have you undertaken a cost analysis to understand how much money sending Celina back will save?
I doubt we will get any refund on the loan fee and I doubt it's anything like enough to cover the wages of those two let alone the transfer fees.
Seems to be a Celina "pile-on" nowadays. It's bizarre given he hasn't played for a few weeks and was probably one of the top performers just before his injury.
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Exactly. It's a bit odd this complete volte-face people seem to have done on a player most were creaming themselves over when he rejoined.
If overall wages are the issue, then we'd be better off paying up the contracts or trying to sell the players who don't cut it here any more. Celina will certainly be on more money but to suggest he should be the first out the door is a bit strange. |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:40 - Jan 10 with 2574 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Have you undertaken a cost analysis to understand how much money sending Celina back will save?
I doubt we will get any refund on the loan fee and I doubt it's anything like enough to cover the wages of those two let alone the transfer fees.
Seems to be a Celina "pile-on" nowadays. It's bizarre given he hasn't played for a few weeks and was probably one of the top performers just before his injury.
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Of those in his position he's the only one on loan. hence why his names involved, The ONLY reason his names involved.
No loan fee refund or not, we'd still end up saving on weekly wages wouldn't we.. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:40 - Jan 10 with 2579 views | wkj |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Have you undertaken a cost analysis to understand how much money sending Celina back will save?
I doubt we will get any refund on the loan fee and I doubt it's anything like enough to cover the wages of those two let alone the transfer fees.
Seems to be a Celina "pile-on" nowadays. It's bizarre given he hasn't played for a few weeks and was probably one of the top performers just before his injury.
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I want to at least see how he works under McKenna.
We've only ever seen him in a Direct System under Mick, or a system that isolated the striker under Cook.
Given his technical ability, I bet he might show us so much more under McK too. |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:47 - Jan 10 with 2533 views | StokieBlue |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:40 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Of those in his position he's the only one on loan. hence why his names involved, The ONLY reason his names involved.
No loan fee refund or not, we'd still end up saving on weekly wages wouldn't we.. |
I simply don't believe you. Most posts you make seem to be either a calculated troll such as "listening on the radio", "smarmy looking", "Penny would be a good winger", "Penny isn't better than Kenlock" or designed to annoy other posters which would be my bet for this one.
I think most can see through you now and hence very few seem to bother engaging with you anymore. I think I'll join them, it'll be better for both of us.
You'll probably still enjoy it here when you're left responding to your own posts.
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:50 - Jan 10 with 2506 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:47 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
I simply don't believe you. Most posts you make seem to be either a calculated troll such as "listening on the radio", "smarmy looking", "Penny would be a good winger", "Penny isn't better than Kenlock" or designed to annoy other posters which would be my bet for this one.
I think most can see through you now and hence very few seem to bother engaging with you anymore. I think I'll join them, it'll be better for both of us.
You'll probably still enjoy it here when you're left responding to your own posts.
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Eh? have you mistook my post as an insult or something?
Celina is on loan in a position where we have perm players already in the side.
If we were to look at finances to fund perm deals for our key GK and our key striker, then yes I'd be looking to save money on the loan of a midfielder who possibly wouldn't be needed anymore.
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:52 - Jan 10 with 2500 views | wkj |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:47 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
I simply don't believe you. Most posts you make seem to be either a calculated troll such as "listening on the radio", "smarmy looking", "Penny would be a good winger", "Penny isn't better than Kenlock" or designed to annoy other posters which would be my bet for this one.
I think most can see through you now and hence very few seem to bother engaging with you anymore. I think I'll join them, it'll be better for both of us.
You'll probably still enjoy it here when you're left responding to your own posts.
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Bit harsh there Stokie, don't you think?
I doubt Makin will ever have just himself to talk to, Frimleyblue could be back at any moment to discuss double gyms sessions with him. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:01 - Jan 10 with 2453 views | footers |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:50 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Eh? have you mistook my post as an insult or something?
Celina is on loan in a position where we have perm players already in the side.
If we were to look at finances to fund perm deals for our key GK and our key striker, then yes I'd be looking to save money on the loan of a midfielder who possibly wouldn't be needed anymore.
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So why not ship out other players if sending Celina back is mainly for funds?
Aluko is 32 and will need to be rotated. Celina is probably one of the best players currently at the club, and it's not like we don't have the cash to pay for him. As Stokie also points out, the largest chunk of that will have been an upfront loan fee which we have already paid. [Post edited 10 Jan 2022 17:02]
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:13 - Jan 10 with 2398 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:01 - Jan 10 by footers |
So why not ship out other players if sending Celina back is mainly for funds?
Aluko is 32 and will need to be rotated. Celina is probably one of the best players currently at the club, and it's not like we don't have the cash to pay for him. As Stokie also points out, the largest chunk of that will have been an upfront loan fee which we have already paid. [Post edited 10 Jan 2022 17:02]
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Can only ship out if their are immediate buyers
In midfield, we have. Chaplin. Aluko. Fraser. Harper. Edwards. Plus U23s all perm players with contracts.
If chaplin was the loanee I'd be saying let him go back. It's not about the player directly it's about what else we already have.
Again it's personal opinion. Not quite sure what SB got upset about tbh | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:16 - Jan 10 with 2387 views | footers |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:13 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Can only ship out if their are immediate buyers
In midfield, we have. Chaplin. Aluko. Fraser. Harper. Edwards. Plus U23s all perm players with contracts.
If chaplin was the loanee I'd be saying let him go back. It's not about the player directly it's about what else we already have.
Again it's personal opinion. Not quite sure what SB got upset about tbh |
Agree to disagree. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:20 - Jan 10 with 2371 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:16 - Jan 10 by footers |
Agree to disagree. |
Absolutely that's fine. As I said yesterday and agree with wkj I'm intrigued to see how all these players do under the new style. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:29 - Jan 10 with 2341 views | mo_itfc |
I'd be happy to see another RWB come in.
Burns and KVY don't have the best track record for fitness. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:49 - Jan 10 with 2279 views | NthQldITFC |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:03 - Jan 10 by tractordownsouth |
In terms of numbers we could probably cope with 5 but Nsiala and Burgess aren't particularly comfortable on the ball. Having one of them in there would be fine, especially playing against the physical teams, but I'd be nervous with both of them playing in a McKenna system. |
I pretty much agree we could live with one of them in there against most oppositions, but against a really strong high pressing team, I think you really need all three CBs to be comfortable on the ball, otherwise you end up conceding territory in exchange for time on the ball.
Perhaps Burgess will come good there, not seen enough to have an opinion? Ndaba for next season would certainly fit the bill by all accounts, but ideally we do need one more in January if we're going to make that play-off push this season.
Left wing back, I'm happy with Edwards/Penney. Would prefer we use our own players where we can, particularly if Coulsen is injury prone.
Right side, Burns and KVY is pure gold! |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:51 - Jan 10 with 2273 views | NthQldITFC |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:29 - Jan 10 by mo_itfc |
I'd be happy to see another RWB come in.
Burns and KVY don't have the best track record for fitness. |
I guess two senior pros for each position, and then a youth player in an emergency has to be the rule in order to not end up with too bloated a squad? | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 17:55 - Jan 10 with 2264 views | CrockerITFC |
How do we know Kenlock or Armin couldn't play this role before we bring someone else in |  | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 19:29 - Jan 10 with 2186 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:47 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
I simply don't believe you. Most posts you make seem to be either a calculated troll such as "listening on the radio", "smarmy looking", "Penny would be a good winger", "Penny isn't better than Kenlock" or designed to annoy other posters which would be my bet for this one.
I think most can see through you now and hence very few seem to bother engaging with you anymore. I think I'll join them, it'll be better for both of us.
You'll probably still enjoy it here when you're left responding to your own posts.
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Sad times when twitter enables people to have a discussion about things better than a forum.. Time to play the post not the poster SB. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 21:30 - Jan 10 with 2035 views | StokieBlue |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 19:29 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Sad times when twitter enables people to have a discussion about things better than a forum.. Time to play the post not the poster SB. |
I responded to the post and then I gave you my opinion on your general posting after your response.
The fact that you think something being mentioned on Twitter makes it's a relevant debate is strange for someone who spends so much time on Twitter and must see the stuff that's on there.
I'll reiterate that I think your a troll and a wind-up merchant and as such this will be my last response to you.
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 21:36 - Jan 10 with 2021 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 21:30 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
I responded to the post and then I gave you my opinion on your general posting after your response.
The fact that you think something being mentioned on Twitter makes it's a relevant debate is strange for someone who spends so much time on Twitter and must see the stuff that's on there.
I'll reiterate that I think your a troll and a wind-up merchant and as such this will be my last response to you.
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Oh I see so you responded to a post and then purposely added more to be personal for 0 reason. Got you.
Glad it's your last response. I don't like trolls. | |
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