| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise 13:25 - Jan 10 with 3755 views | tractordownsouth |
If we're going stick with the 3-4-1-2 I think it makes sense to only bring in a ball-playing defender. We have more than enough cover in every other position - putting Edwards as a LWB might seem strange but for me he has the attributes to play there because even while his end product is lacking, he's always provided good protection for the full-back. And even if that doesn't work out, Coulson is there as well. I'd be surprised to see Holy, Kenlock, Jackson and Nolan still here as well. Scott Fraser will probably have a few clubs after him too
Of course this is based on the assumption that Bonne and Walton both stay at the club, either on loan or in a permanent deal
Walton (Hladky)
Donacien (New CB)
Woolfenden (Nsiala)
Edmundson (Burgess)
Burns (KVY)
Morsy (El Mizouni)
Evans (Carroll/Harper)
Penney (Coulson/Edwards)
Aluko (Celina)
Bonne (Chaplin)
Norwood (Pigott) |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 08:40 - Jan 11 with 811 views | wkj |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 21:36 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Oh I see so you responded to a post and then purposely added more to be personal for 0 reason. Got you.
Glad it's your last response. I don't like trolls. |
Self loathing is a terrible thing ol' boy |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 09:31 - Jan 11 with 759 views | franz_tyson |
None of us really know the finances we’ve got to play with, but if offloading Celina meant we could bring in Walton - then I’d be in favour of it.
Really don’t know where Celina fits in, other than as an impact sub. He’s won us a couple of games and his goal against Wycombe turned the match so we’ve got a special player there, but I don’t want him squeezed into the side ahead of Aluko …. or even Norwood.
Would Celina want to be a sub? He wouldn’t be the type to see out a game, but only when we’re struggling to create anything and need something special. As a marquee signing he would be expected to be one of the first names on the team sheet , but I don’t see anyone moaning when he’s not in the squad. We missed Wes Burns far more.
In a Mick type team I can see his importance where you’ve got 8 or 9 defensive-minded players and you need just one moment of magic to turn a 0-0 into a 1-0, but I think we’ve got enough creative players and they’re more disciplined and work harder for the team.
If Celina can’t get in the team and is consigned to the bench then it’s a good problem to have but he just seems to be too much of a luxury for this level. |  | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 10:58 - Jan 11 with 736 views | Wickets |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:40 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Of those in his position he's the only one on loan. hence why his names involved, The ONLY reason his names involved.
No loan fee refund or not, we'd still end up saving on weekly wages wouldn't we.. |
Really hard to make a judgement call when we really dont know how much his wage is and what percentage we are paying ! |  | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 13:50 - Jan 11 with 690 views | Westcountryblue |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:47 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
I simply don't believe you. Most posts you make seem to be either a calculated troll such as "listening on the radio", "smarmy looking", "Penny would be a good winger", "Penny isn't better than Kenlock" or designed to annoy other posters which would be my bet for this one.
I think most can see through you now and hence very few seem to bother engaging with you anymore. I think I'll join them, it'll be better for both of us.
You'll probably still enjoy it here when you're left responding to your own posts.
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I'm certainly not in favour of sending Celina back. Nor do i think his wages, which will have been significantly reduced after Dijon were relegated to Ligue 2 last season, will have a significant impact on our ability to sign Bonne and/or Walton.
However, your comments are a little obnoxious here. All fans see and interpret the club and it's players in a different way. Have a little respect as it's fairly unpleasant to read. | | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 14:21 - Jan 11 with 669 views | StokieBlue |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 13:50 - Jan 11 by Westcountryblue |
I'm certainly not in favour of sending Celina back. Nor do i think his wages, which will have been significantly reduced after Dijon were relegated to Ligue 2 last season, will have a significant impact on our ability to sign Bonne and/or Walton.
However, your comments are a little obnoxious here. All fans see and interpret the club and it's players in a different way. Have a little respect as it's fairly unpleasant to read. |
You've missed about 6 months of context.
It's not based on a single post, look at how few agree with him and how few are defending him. He's a troll, he's been told off by Phil for it, he had an abusive rant at fellow posters and was banned but somehow allowed to come back but still things are pretty much the same.
Celina wasn't mentioned anywhere in this thread, it was a post designed to annoy certain people who have been disagreeing with him about Celina for a while. He will deny it but seemed pretty clear to me.
SB
Edit: Here is an example, just the 251 down votes:
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 14:39 - Jan 11 with 638 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 14:21 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
You've missed about 6 months of context.
It's not based on a single post, look at how few agree with him and how few are defending him. He's a troll, he's been told off by Phil for it, he had an abusive rant at fellow posters and was banned but somehow allowed to come back but still things are pretty much the same.
Celina wasn't mentioned anywhere in this thread, it was a post designed to annoy certain people who have been disagreeing with him about Celina for a while. He will deny it but seemed pretty clear to me.
SB
Edit: Here is an example, just the 251 down votes:
[Post edited 11 Jan 2022 14:26]
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The OP was about the squad being set going forwards. You moan at me for starting numerous threads, and now it's wrong of me to use one about the squad going forwards.
Could you send me the list of SB rules that should be followed.
BTW, wasn't banned
nothing needs defending, It's a question of do we send back a loanee in a position where we have lots of options. You shouldn't even find it annoying as a celina fan, it's a valid question.
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 14:40 - Jan 11 with 632 views | theinbetweener |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 15:42 - Jan 10 by chrismakin |
Time to send Celina back to pay for Bonne/Walton imo. |
Not too sure why you're getting so much stick on this one tbh, as I can see where you're coming from.
You're not suggesting Celina is a bad player, far from it, but that Walton & Bonne are far more valuable to us at this current stage, so anything that can be done to secure these two players on a longer contract, it has to be done.
Celina is a luxury player, a very good one, but is he going to be "the difference" in us possibly securing a top 6 finish, when we have so many other players in his position (Aluko, Chaplin, Fraser, Harper etc). I don't think so. Walton and Bonne are. |  | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:04 - Jan 11 with 561 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 14:40 - Jan 11 by theinbetweener |
Not too sure why you're getting so much stick on this one tbh, as I can see where you're coming from.
You're not suggesting Celina is a bad player, far from it, but that Walton & Bonne are far more valuable to us at this current stage, so anything that can be done to secure these two players on a longer contract, it has to be done.
Celina is a luxury player, a very good one, but is he going to be "the difference" in us possibly securing a top 6 finish, when we have so many other players in his position (Aluko, Chaplin, Fraser, Harper etc). I don't think so. Walton and Bonne are. |
He's been the difference away at Wycombe, home to Fleetwood, home to Crewe already. He turned the game at Plymouth as well but we missed several guilt edge chances.
I find it bizarre that so many people seem keen to send him back to Dijon (can we even do that as part of the deal?). He's a quality player that will impact several more games for us before this season is out. If you could pick one player in our squad to pull off something spectacular when our backs are against the wall, it is him. The talk he doesn't work hard enough is nonsense as well.
I think it's far more likely that Fraser will be sacrificed if needs be and the Swansea interest is real. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 16:05]
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:26 - Jan 11 with 512 views | chrismakin |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:04 - Jan 11 by tractorboy1978 |
He's been the difference away at Wycombe, home to Fleetwood, home to Crewe already. He turned the game at Plymouth as well but we missed several guilt edge chances.
I find it bizarre that so many people seem keen to send him back to Dijon (can we even do that as part of the deal?). He's a quality player that will impact several more games for us before this season is out. If you could pick one player in our squad to pull off something spectacular when our backs are against the wall, it is him. The talk he doesn't work hard enough is nonsense as well.
I think it's far more likely that Fraser will be sacrificed if needs be and the Swansea interest is real. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 16:05]
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Lots of unknowns but it's worth a chat, why not, there isn't much else football wise at town going on.
For me its not about a keeness to get rid. I just see Walton and Bonne being required more than Celina and IF and only IF better finances were needed to make those 2 deals more realistic of being done, then yes I'd let Celina go back if it was an option, whether it was 20k or 10k it's still financial output that we possibly don't have a desperate need for.
As said above, IF Fraser was the loan player, i'd be saying the same thing, it;s about who's the town player V who isn't. | |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:43 - Jan 11 with 476 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:26 - Jan 11 by chrismakin |
Lots of unknowns but it's worth a chat, why not, there isn't much else football wise at town going on.
For me its not about a keeness to get rid. I just see Walton and Bonne being required more than Celina and IF and only IF better finances were needed to make those 2 deals more realistic of being done, then yes I'd let Celina go back if it was an option, whether it was 20k or 10k it's still financial output that we possibly don't have a desperate need for.
As said above, IF Fraser was the loan player, i'd be saying the same thing, it;s about who's the town player V who isn't. |
If it's a toss up between getting our money back on Fraser or losing Celina for the remainder of the season - it's the former every time for me. And I like Fraser - it just doesn't seem to have worked here for whatever reason.
I think it's all a moot argument anyway because we can get around SCMP by the owners injecting cash as equity. I don't see money being the issue, more whether there are Championship clubs interested in Walton's case and whether QPR are keen to play realistic ball in Bonne's case. | | | |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 19:20 - Jan 11 with 419 views | BiGDonnie |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:43 - Jan 11 by tractorboy1978 |
If it's a toss up between getting our money back on Fraser or losing Celina for the remainder of the season - it's the former every time for me. And I like Fraser - it just doesn't seem to have worked here for whatever reason.
I think it's all a moot argument anyway because we can get around SCMP by the owners injecting cash as equity. I don't see money being the issue, more whether there are Championship clubs interested in Walton's case and whether QPR are keen to play realistic ball in Bonne's case. |
Celina's going nowhere, I can't believe it's being discussed! |  |
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| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 19:23 - Jan 11 with 415 views | jayessess |
| If we get a CB we're more than set squad-wise on 16:26 - Jan 11 by chrismakin |
Lots of unknowns but it's worth a chat, why not, there isn't much else football wise at town going on.
For me its not about a keeness to get rid. I just see Walton and Bonne being required more than Celina and IF and only IF better finances were needed to make those 2 deals more realistic of being done, then yes I'd let Celina go back if it was an option, whether it was 20k or 10k it's still financial output that we possibly don't have a desperate need for.
As said above, IF Fraser was the loan player, i'd be saying the same thing, it;s about who's the town player V who isn't. |
Can't imagine Dijon would be very amenable to getting Celina back on their wage bill. Didn't they shift him because they were in financial trouble? |  |
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