| Be careful on them roads today 13:54 - Jan 29 with 1300 views | bluelagos |
New rules from today and saw a near crash earlier.
Approaching a roundabout to make a right turn with 3 cars in front of me all doing the same.
Lead car goes around the roundabout and as he exits he suddenly stops to give way to a pedestrian who is waiting to cross the road. Car 2 slams on brakes and car 3 nearly rear ends him.
It's not just pedestrians / cyclists to be aware of - it's cars randomly stopping because they think that is sensible/required even when it really isn't... |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 13:56 - Jan 29 with 1260 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Sounds like the other cars were too close to me.
But I agree, the pedestrian waiting to cross thing is a bit silly, particularly as its counter intuitive to what pedestrians have been doing for over 100 years, |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 13:59 - Jan 29 with 1225 views | Keno |
| Be careful on them roads today on 13:56 - Jan 29 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Sounds like the other cars were too close to me.
But I agree, the pedestrian waiting to cross thing is a bit silly, particularly as its counter intuitive to what pedestrians have been doing for over 100 years, |
Maybe you shouldn’t have so suddenly if you thought the cars were too close to you? |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 13:59 - Jan 29 with 1225 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I discovered today that when your indicator goes ten-to-a-dozen it is because one of the bulbs has gone. Been driving around a few days now without my rear right indicator working. Apologies to anyone following me who has been unaware of my intention to turn right recently! |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 14:03 - Jan 29 with 1198 views | bluelagos |
| Be careful on them roads today on 13:56 - Jan 29 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Sounds like the other cars were too close to me.
But I agree, the pedestrian waiting to cross thing is a bit silly, particularly as its counter intuitive to what pedestrians have been doing for over 100 years, |
For me the issue is whether the exit of a roundabout is "a junction" or not. If it is, then it is quite right for the lead car to pull up and stop according to the new rules. If it isn't, then by pulling up without a good reason, the lead car has nearly caused a crash - no one expects a car to randomly stop without a reason.
And am not sure the new guidelines are 100% clear - as some people will see the exit of a roundabout as a junction and some won't... | |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 14:07 - Jan 29 with 1153 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s going to cause all sorts of problems. I was involved in a close call the other week when someone seemed to be getting a bit of early practice in. |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 14:23 - Jan 29 with 1070 views | bluelagos |
| Be careful on them roads today on 14:07 - Jan 29 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s going to cause all sorts of problems. I was involved in a close call the other week when someone seemed to be getting a bit of early practice in. |
Not as good as Nigeria though. An old timer told me about when they switched from driving on the right to driving on the left.
They introduced the change over a weekend so people could get used to it, before it was the law on the Monday. So for two days you could drive legally on both sides of the road  | |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 14:25 - Jan 29 with 1060 views | OldFart71 |
Sometimes I wonder if these people who are supposed to be intelligent have one ounce of sense in them. Smart Motorways, Pedestrian crossings placed immediately after a roundabout. Traffic lights placed so that they have to put louvred shades on them and you can still barely see what colour they are on. Now this stupid law which will cause hundreds of accidents. Before someone says you should give the car in front adequate distance just look at how many don't give way to those coming from the right on roundabout or chance they can get out in front of you. If they then slam on their brakes you have nowhere to go. |  | | |
| Be careful on them roads today on 14:25 - Jan 29 with 1058 views | pointofblue |
| Be careful on them roads today on 14:03 - Jan 29 by bluelagos |
For me the issue is whether the exit of a roundabout is "a junction" or not. If it is, then it is quite right for the lead car to pull up and stop according to the new rules. If it isn't, then by pulling up without a good reason, the lead car has nearly caused a crash - no one expects a car to randomly stop without a reason.
And am not sure the new guidelines are 100% clear - as some people will see the exit of a roundabout as a junction and some won't... |
I’m predominantly a pedestrian but, to me, it’s a stupid non-sensical rule. There was nothing wrong with the ones that were there when it comes to crossing the road. | |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 14:51 - Jan 29 with 935 views | Trequartista |
Edmund King president of the AA has warned this scenario might happen.
I actually thought giving way to a pedestrian at a junction was already in the highway code, i then found out that previously they had to have already been crossing the road, whereas now they just need to be on the pavement looking to cross, so essentially the previous rule was "Don't run over pedestrians" !
Could bring in a new angle on "crash for cash" where player #1 crosses the road, and player #2 in the car is in on the scam and slams their brakes on hoping to be rear-ended. |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 14:54 - Jan 29 with 903 views | Oldsmoker |
I think the new rules as regards pedestrians is a bit iffy.
I'd like to think that pedestrians are going to be extra careful too as they won't trust drivers to do the right thing.
By law I have to drive at 20mph in Bristol, which means if I have to stop instantly I can, thanks to my disc brakes.
20mph is a much safer speed compared to 30mph and gives way more reaction time. |  |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 15:56 - Jan 29 with 753 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Be careful on them roads today on 14:54 - Jan 29 by Oldsmoker |
I think the new rules as regards pedestrians is a bit iffy.
I'd like to think that pedestrians are going to be extra careful too as they won't trust drivers to do the right thing.
By law I have to drive at 20mph in Bristol, which means if I have to stop instantly I can, thanks to my disc brakes.
20mph is a much safer speed compared to 30mph and gives way more reaction time. |
At 20 mph, in good conditions you should be stationary in 12 m (40 ft) and will have slowed in speed after 6 m (20 feet).
At 30 mph, in equal conditions, you should be stationary in 23 m (75 ft). You will not have begun to slow until 9 m (30 feet).
Hit at 20 mph, there is a 95% chance a pedestrian will live.
At 30 mph, that drops to 55%. | |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 16:45 - Jan 29 with 646 views | Oldsmoker |
| Be careful on them roads today on 15:56 - Jan 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
At 20 mph, in good conditions you should be stationary in 12 m (40 ft) and will have slowed in speed after 6 m (20 feet).
At 30 mph, in equal conditions, you should be stationary in 23 m (75 ft). You will not have begun to slow until 9 m (30 feet).
Hit at 20 mph, there is a 95% chance a pedestrian will live.
At 30 mph, that drops to 55%. |
I don't know where you got your figures from but at 20mph I can slam on the disc brakes and stop in half a car length - thats 4ft not 40ft (8 car lengths).
I have a light car and damn good disc brakes.
All that stopping distance stuff on the back of the highway code book must refer to drum brakes.
Who has drum brakes nowadays? | |
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| Be careful on them roads today on 16:49 - Jan 29 with 621 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Be careful on them roads today on 16:45 - Jan 29 by Oldsmoker |
I don't know where you got your figures from but at 20mph I can slam on the disc brakes and stop in half a car length - thats 4ft not 40ft (8 car lengths).
I have a light car and damn good disc brakes.
All that stopping distance stuff on the back of the highway code book must refer to drum brakes.
Who has drum brakes nowadays? |
Fair enough. Took them from the Highway Code which clearly hasn't been updated for modern brakes. The thinking distance aspect should still be accurate and that's the first 6 m (20 ft) so even "slamming on the brakes" would actually be 24 ft not 4 ft (assuming your braking distance is accurate). | |
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