| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 18:15 - Feb 2 with 1695 views | XYZ |
Cheers. A good read. |  | |  |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 18:35 - Feb 2 with 1642 views | Illinoisblue |
The insane valuation of MLS clubs continues to baffle me. People can talk all they like about how soccer is growing here - and it is at grassroots level - but as a professional sport here it’s very much a very distant 5th in line to the big four sports. |  |
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| Good article Mullers, ta (n/t) on 18:44 - Feb 2 with 1612 views | Dyland |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 18:56 - Feb 2 with 1593 views | Wacko |
"The idea that the people who have tried this in the past were idiots who didn’t know what they were doing, it’s nonsense.”
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| Good article Mullers, ta (n/t) on 19:54 - Feb 2 with 1464 views | Mullet |
| Good article Mullers, ta (n/t) on 18:44 - Feb 2 by Dyland |
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I didn’t write it. Too short and not enough knob gags. |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:22 - Feb 3 with 1236 views | Slambo |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 18:35 - Feb 2 by Illinoisblue |
The insane valuation of MLS clubs continues to baffle me. People can talk all they like about how soccer is growing here - and it is at grassroots level - but as a professional sport here it’s very much a very distant 5th in line to the big four sports. |
The valuation of MLS clubs is so high precisely because they're such stable assets! As it says in the article, you're pretty much guaranteed to turn a profit (assuming the League keeps negotiating good TV and merchandising deals and all the rest of it). Yes, the potential payouts in a free market like England are huge, but so is the potential to lose it all...
MLS may still technically be behind the traditional 4 sports in the US, but it's gaining ground all the time, because (in my opinion, of course) it offers something the others don't - the terrace culture, which has been adopted wholeheartedly by supporters/ultra groups out there. This gives MLS a genuine USP. Teams are also recruiting far more sensibly, exploiting the fact that the game is played all over the world to recruit up and coming talent and not just aging marquee names...
Good football, in a league where anyone can win, backed by raucous, vibrant, partisan fans..? Viva MLS I say... |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:30 - Feb 3 with 1199 views | FightingEssex |
Correct me if I am wrong, Johnson owns as much of the actual club as Marcus Evans still does? With the pension fund owning the significant chunk of it. |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:36 - Feb 3 with 1182 views | nodge_blue |
“This idea that somehow there is hidden value to be unlocked in the lower levels of European soccer seems to me to be a common theme amongst these people. And that’s the thing I’m completely struggling to get my head around. I do not know what these people are talking about. I just don’t see how they think they can do this. Unless it’s just purely a lottery ticket where they’re hoping to get extremely lucky. On average, this must be a losing bet, in my view.”
Thats the thing that still worries me about Gamechanger. They could get very cold feet at some stage if we are still in League one in two years time. |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:38 - Feb 3 with 1171 views | Cotty |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:30 - Feb 3 by FightingEssex |
Correct me if I am wrong, Johnson owns as much of the actual club as Marcus Evans still does? With the pension fund owning the significant chunk of it. |
I believe that was true at point of sale, but is no longer true because of investment by the new owners diluting his share (I may also be talking out of my ar*e) |  | | |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:05 - Feb 3 with 1046 views | EdwardStone |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:36 - Feb 3 by nodge_blue |
“This idea that somehow there is hidden value to be unlocked in the lower levels of European soccer seems to me to be a common theme amongst these people. And that’s the thing I’m completely struggling to get my head around. I do not know what these people are talking about. I just don’t see how they think they can do this. Unless it’s just purely a lottery ticket where they’re hoping to get extremely lucky. On average, this must be a losing bet, in my view.”
Thats the thing that still worries me about Gamechanger. They could get very cold feet at some stage if we are still in League one in two years time. |
True... but my take away from the article is that the new investors will actually be much more focussed and determined to make the club succeed by being more ruthless and professional, rather than seeing it as dilettante playboy trinket
So much greater diligence on player purchases, better management of player contracts and a much crisper approach when things are obviously not working
My impression from the ME era was that the man would not delegate, wanted to make every single decision himself but was rarely available to do any decision making, hence we just gently drifted into L1 with a shrug and barely a whimper
And I am looking forward to an enhanced Matchday Experience..... a 20 minute queue to get a revolting over-cold beer and a tepid pie at half time, unless they have sold out.....that could be improved to advantage |  | | |
| Good article Mullers, ta (n/t) on 12:06 - Feb 3 with 1034 views | ghostofescobar |
| Good article Mullers, ta (n/t) on 19:54 - Feb 2 by Mullet |
I didn’t write it. Too short and not enough knob gags. |
Pffft, you said "too short" and "knob" in the same sentence. |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:12 - Feb 3 with 1017 views | nodge_blue |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:05 - Feb 3 by EdwardStone |
True... but my take away from the article is that the new investors will actually be much more focussed and determined to make the club succeed by being more ruthless and professional, rather than seeing it as dilettante playboy trinket
So much greater diligence on player purchases, better management of player contracts and a much crisper approach when things are obviously not working
My impression from the ME era was that the man would not delegate, wanted to make every single decision himself but was rarely available to do any decision making, hence we just gently drifted into L1 with a shrug and barely a whimper
And I am looking forward to an enhanced Matchday Experience..... a 20 minute queue to get a revolting over-cold beer and a tepid pie at half time, unless they have sold out.....that could be improved to advantage |
Totally agree that the club feels like its being run much, much better. Theres a feel good factor atm. Its my pessimistic voice that I need to keep quieter that worries how long they will stick it out for. They could eventually do an Evans and run it on minimum financial input. | |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:30 - Feb 3 with 986 views | EdwardStone |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:12 - Feb 3 by nodge_blue |
Totally agree that the club feels like its being run much, much better. Theres a feel good factor atm. Its my pessimistic voice that I need to keep quieter that worries how long they will stick it out for. They could eventually do an Evans and run it on minimum financial input. |
I agree that your scenario might exist, but the whole point of a profit focussed inward investor is to overhaul a sickly undervalued business and turn it around
This must mean suitable funding and the correct framework to send us soaring up the league tables....just like ME, they only really get a sizable return when we get promotion into the Prem
Unlike ME, they seem to have the focus and will to make it happen
It all begs the question of how did ME become so rich, his time here seemed to show him as a very careless businessman, prepared to watch his assets shrink due to neglect and underinvestment
So keep the faith Mr Nodge....enjoy the rollercoaster ride and we shall see where we are by the close of next season [Post edited 3 Feb 2022 12:30]
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:37 - Feb 3 with 953 views | Keno |
Good read
that club the Brett guy bought sounds really promising |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:42 - Feb 3 with 929 views | suffolkpoker |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:37 - Feb 3 by Keno |
Good read
that club the Brett guy bought sounds really promising |
he is gambling on inflation, promotion and running the company better. Break even for 10 years and through in a promotoion and with inflation its going to be worth alot more.
Makes long term sense to me. |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 13:01 - Feb 3 with 864 views | EdwardStone |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:37 - Feb 3 by Keno |
Good read
that club the Brett guy bought sounds really promising |
That club sounds like a right bunch of losers tbh
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 13:01 - Feb 3 with 866 views | WeWereZombies |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 12:30 - Feb 3 by EdwardStone |
I agree that your scenario might exist, but the whole point of a profit focussed inward investor is to overhaul a sickly undervalued business and turn it around
This must mean suitable funding and the correct framework to send us soaring up the league tables....just like ME, they only really get a sizable return when we get promotion into the Prem
Unlike ME, they seem to have the focus and will to make it happen
It all begs the question of how did ME become so rich, his time here seemed to show him as a very careless businessman, prepared to watch his assets shrink due to neglect and underinvestment
So keep the faith Mr Nodge....enjoy the rollercoaster ride and we shall see where we are by the close of next season [Post edited 3 Feb 2022 12:30]
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I think English football and corporate marketing are different games...with different goals...
The former can be measured clinically by success on the pitch and has a very clear numerical cut off point for progression, the latter relies on a range of metrics that can be talked up and talked down to the advantage of the provider who has enough confidence and persuasive ability. I think Marcus Evans was never able to accommodate these two very different approaches fully and our downward trajectory was a result of the failure to apply stringent targets throughout the Club because a more melded modus operandi worked for him in his day job. |  |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 13:17 - Feb 3 with 840 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 18:35 - Feb 2 by Illinoisblue |
The insane valuation of MLS clubs continues to baffle me. People can talk all they like about how soccer is growing here - and it is at grassroots level - but as a professional sport here it’s very much a very distant 5th in line to the big four sports. |
Not insane at all. Guaranteed long term income and a level playing field to play in. Sock-car is growing fast in the USA and will continue to do so | |
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| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 14:39 - Feb 3 with 717 views | FightingEssex |
| Long read featuring us and Brett Johnson on 10:38 - Feb 3 by Cotty |
I believe that was true at point of sale, but is no longer true because of investment by the new owners diluting his share (I may also be talking out of my ar*e) |
It’s interesting given Evans has been sniffing around every available club in the league. I do have concerns that a US pension fund may not understand that English football at this level is a bit of a bottomless pit and you can easily lose a few hundred million to achieve absolutely nothing. Given they’re going to want a return on the 60mil they’ve spent on it so far, it’s going to be hard to see when that’s coming for them. | |
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