| Council Tax 15:30 - Mar 11 with 2436 views | OldFart71 |
Just received my Council Tax bill for 2022/23 Up by 2.99%. What I cannot understand is the 4.2% increase to the Police. I think the last time I saw one in Needham Market was years ago. Wouldn't mind if they actually kept the neighbourhood safe. Actually I tell a lie, as I presume it's them that man the speed camera which can be either one side of the road or the other as you get into the 30 m.p.h. limit from Stowmarket. Pity they can't find something better to do than try and wring a few more shekels out of the already overburdened motorist. Not that I in any way agree with speeding . But I don't believe in many cases that cameras are there merely to reduce speed, but instead to increase revenue. |  | | |  |
| Council Tax on 15:33 - Mar 11 with 2392 views | Kieran_Knows |
Yes, saw mine had gone up by £5 a month the other day. |  |
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| Council Tax on 16:23 - Mar 11 with 2274 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Got to pay their gravy train pensions somehow. I always thought that was Daily Mail click bait until I found out from a friend working at the council what kind of pension plan he had.
Fact - a fifth of all council tax raised goes into council pensions! | | | |
| Council Tax on 16:28 - Mar 11 with 2237 views | Lord_Lucan |
Mines £2,500  |  |
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| Council Tax on 16:33 - Mar 11 with 2214 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Someone had to pay for the cut in funding - and the increased cost of recruiting and training 80,000 new constables shortly after imposing cuts that reduced the force by 80,000 experienced officers. You could live in Saffron Walden where the police station is now ‘luxury apartments’ and the town depends on police cover from Braintree. Officers responding to 999 calls from nearby Cambridge can arrive more quickly - but cannot act because it’s Essex. Your eagle-eyed traffic cops are almost certainly volunteer special constables - and therefore unpaid | |
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| Council Tax on 16:35 - Mar 11 with 2202 views | monytowbray |
Where is all the money we saved from no longer being in the EU gone?
Perhaps those most venomously for Brexit would like to join us in reality now? |  |
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| Council Tax on 17:40 - Mar 11 with 2115 views | allezlesbleus |
I was back in Ipswich for around 10 days last month and I was shocked at how few policemen I saw on the streets. In fact, I can only recall seeing several at the MK Dons stadium and I don't even know if I saw any at the Burton match. The only others were late on Saturday night, outside Revs. |  | | |
| Council Tax on 18:03 - Mar 11 with 2061 views | jeera |
| Council Tax on 17:40 - Mar 11 by allezlesbleus |
I was back in Ipswich for around 10 days last month and I was shocked at how few policemen I saw on the streets. In fact, I can only recall seeing several at the MK Dons stadium and I don't even know if I saw any at the Burton match. The only others were late on Saturday night, outside Revs. |
According to Full Fact police numbers dropped by some 20,600 between 2010 - 2019 (England and Wales).
Make of that what you will.
I have to say that numbers didn't seem adequate before that either. I once commented to a couple of coppers I was chatting with how on a Saturday night in Bury there seemed to be a lot of empty police vehicles dotted about, as in, quite a lot of vehicles parked up but no one visibly in them.
They said it's what they do when low on numbers to give an impression of a presence, park several up here and there.
One of them said it's not unusual to have as few as 14 on duty throughout the town on a Saturday night. Fourteen on a chaotic Saturday night seemed a worryingly small amount.
I've seen five jump on one guy so that leaves only nine left covering everything else!
Edited for clarification: (England and Wales). [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 18:29]
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| Council Tax on 18:18 - Mar 11 with 2027 views | BlueBadger |
| Council Tax on 18:03 - Mar 11 by jeera |
According to Full Fact police numbers dropped by some 20,600 between 2010 - 2019 (England and Wales).
Make of that what you will.
I have to say that numbers didn't seem adequate before that either. I once commented to a couple of coppers I was chatting with how on a Saturday night in Bury there seemed to be a lot of empty police vehicles dotted about, as in, quite a lot of vehicles parked up but no one visibly in them.
They said it's what they do when low on numbers to give an impression of a presence, park several up here and there.
One of them said it's not unusual to have as few as 14 on duty throughout the town on a Saturday night. Fourteen on a chaotic Saturday night seemed a worryingly small amount.
I've seen five jump on one guy so that leaves only nine left covering everything else!
Edited for clarification: (England and Wales). [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 18:29]
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Another thing to consider: if somebody under arrest or in n custody needs to go to A&E then they have to be accompanied by two coppers, who are then likely to be off the beat for several hours, if not the rest of the shift if their 'client' needs admitting.
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| Council Tax on 18:32 - Mar 11 with 1989 views | jeera |
| Council Tax on 18:18 - Mar 11 by BlueBadger |
Another thing to consider: if somebody under arrest or in n custody needs to go to A&E then they have to be accompanied by two coppers, who are then likely to be off the beat for several hours, if not the rest of the shift if their 'client' needs admitting.
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Quite. Good point.
I know when I was driving for a while Saturdays night kick-out time was manic and the police would not only let you get away with murder, they actively encouraged it.
Taxis flying around everywhere back and forth doing as they pleased with the full grace of the local police.
Reason they gave was of course as far they were concerned the quicker people were cleared out of there the better. Made sense. | |
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| Council Tax on 18:42 - Mar 11 with 1941 views | factual_blue |
| Council Tax on 18:18 - Mar 11 by BlueBadger |
Another thing to consider: if somebody under arrest or in n custody needs to go to A&E then they have to be accompanied by two coppers, who are then likely to be off the beat for several hours, if not the rest of the shift if their 'client' needs admitting.
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At the apparently fairly regular fights in Newmarket when the clubs shut (fights are usually locals v USAF) Suffolk's finest are regularly told to arrest nobody as there are no cells available in the county. |  |
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| Council Tax on 18:57 - Mar 11 with 1913 views | BlueBadger |
| Council Tax on 18:42 - Mar 11 by factual_blue |
At the apparently fairly regular fights in Newmarket when the clubs shut (fights are usually locals v USAF) Suffolk's finest are regularly told to arrest nobody as there are no cells available in the county. |
A retired former consultant colleague of mine and his mate once had to be rapidly relocated from Newmarket hospital to Addenbrookes because, in his words, 'these little bastards(who turned out to be jockeys) were hogging the pool table in the pub so we picked them up and moved them out so we could have a game. 20 of the fookers chased us all the way back to our lodgings and kept an incessant watch on the place. Getting to work for the next few days was fun, to say the least'.
Newmarket is a very angry place. [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 18:58]
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| Council Tax on 19:00 - Mar 11 with 1889 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Council Tax on 18:57 - Mar 11 by BlueBadger |
A retired former consultant colleague of mine and his mate once had to be rapidly relocated from Newmarket hospital to Addenbrookes because, in his words, 'these little bastards(who turned out to be jockeys) were hogging the pool table in the pub so we picked them up and moved them out so we could have a game. 20 of the fookers chased us all the way back to our lodgings and kept an incessant watch on the place. Getting to work for the next few days was fun, to say the least'.
Newmarket is a very angry place. [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 18:58]
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It's full of short people | |
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| Council Tax on 19:12 - Mar 11 with 1848 views | BlueBadger |
| Council Tax on 19:00 - Mar 11 by Lord_Lucan |
It's full of short people |
I strongly suspect these two factors are linked. | |
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| Council Tax on 20:19 - Mar 11 with 1741 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Council Tax on 16:28 - Mar 11 by Lord_Lucan |
Mines £2,500 |
Mine was £2,700 in 2019 but I don't seem to have kept on to of my filing since! It's bound to have gone down, right?
It's a lot of cash innit? Especially as we've got pot holes the size of countries around us. Bin men have been cut back to half as often as usual. We've lost a couple of libraries. Maybe that's got nothing to do with the council and more about them just passing on cuts, but it doesn't feel like we get much value for money. |  |
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| Council Tax on 20:46 - Mar 11 with 1700 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Council Tax on 20:19 - Mar 11 by Swansea_Blue |
Mine was £2,700 in 2019 but I don't seem to have kept on to of my filing since! It's bound to have gone down, right?
It's a lot of cash innit? Especially as we've got pot holes the size of countries around us. Bin men have been cut back to half as often as usual. We've lost a couple of libraries. Maybe that's got nothing to do with the council and more about them just passing on cuts, but it doesn't feel like we get much value for money. |
£2,700 in 2019
Do you live in Windsor Castle? | |
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| Council Tax on 20:47 - Mar 11 with 1699 views | jeera |
| Council Tax on 20:46 - Mar 11 by Lord_Lucan |
£2,700 in 2019
Do you live in Windsor Castle? |
Like he's ready to downsize like that. | |
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| Council Tax on 20:52 - Mar 11 with 1682 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Council Tax on 20:47 - Mar 11 by jeera |
Like he's ready to downsize like that. |
Thinking about it, if he's in Swansea - he must own the bloody High St | |
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| Council Tax on 21:55 - Mar 11 with 1624 views | factual_blue |
| Council Tax on 18:57 - Mar 11 by BlueBadger |
A retired former consultant colleague of mine and his mate once had to be rapidly relocated from Newmarket hospital to Addenbrookes because, in his words, 'these little bastards(who turned out to be jockeys) were hogging the pool table in the pub so we picked them up and moved them out so we could have a game. 20 of the fookers chased us all the way back to our lodgings and kept an incessant watch on the place. Getting to work for the next few days was fun, to say the least'.
Newmarket is a very angry place. [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 18:58]
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I had some professional dealings with this chap, who definitely wasn't a burglar. He relocated himself from Wolverhampton to Newmarket in a failed attempt to become a jockey.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sat-on+intruder+loses+claim+for+pounds+4%2C000+da
He was known to us in the Midlands as Brain Damage.
And he absolutely wasn't a burglar. [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 21:57]
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| Council Tax on 21:56 - Mar 11 with 1622 views | factual_blue |
| Council Tax on 18:32 - Mar 11 by jeera |
Quite. Good point.
I know when I was driving for a while Saturdays night kick-out time was manic and the police would not only let you get away with murder, they actively encouraged it.
Taxis flying around everywhere back and forth doing as they pleased with the full grace of the local police.
Reason they gave was of course as far they were concerned the quicker people were cleared out of there the better. Made sense. |
A wise copper will let the fight finish, unless it's getting too one-sided.
If you wade in, they say, both of the pugilists will turn on you. | |
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| Council Tax on 22:06 - Mar 11 with 1605 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Council Tax on 20:46 - Mar 11 by Lord_Lucan |
£2,700 in 2019
Do you live in Windsor Castle? |
Dunno, I'll ask the butler  | |
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| Council Tax on 22:09 - Mar 11 with 1602 views | factual_blue |
| Council Tax on 18:03 - Mar 11 by jeera |
According to Full Fact police numbers dropped by some 20,600 between 2010 - 2019 (England and Wales).
Make of that what you will.
I have to say that numbers didn't seem adequate before that either. I once commented to a couple of coppers I was chatting with how on a Saturday night in Bury there seemed to be a lot of empty police vehicles dotted about, as in, quite a lot of vehicles parked up but no one visibly in them.
They said it's what they do when low on numbers to give an impression of a presence, park several up here and there.
One of them said it's not unusual to have as few as 14 on duty throughout the town on a Saturday night. Fourteen on a chaotic Saturday night seemed a worryingly small amount.
I've seen five jump on one guy so that leaves only nine left covering everything else!
Edited for clarification: (England and Wales). [Post edited 11 Mar 2022 18:29]
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Another thing they do is sit by a roundabout for twenty minutes or so, and count cars.
A bit of maths then produces a number of how many people will have seen a police officer. (E.g.multiply the number of cars seen in 20 minutes by 3 for the number seen in a hour, then by the factor that represents the average number of people in a car, whatever that is). | |
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| Council Tax on 22:25 - Mar 11 with 1578 views | factual_blue |
| Council Tax on 16:23 - Mar 11 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Got to pay their gravy train pensions somehow. I always thought that was Daily Mail click bait until I found out from a friend working at the council what kind of pension plan he had.
Fact - a fifth of all council tax raised goes into council pensions! |
Some public sector pensions are non-contributory you know.
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| Council Tax on 12:29 - Mar 13 with 1365 views | OldFart71 |
Further to me having a moan at the 4.2% part of my Council Tax for policing which apparently was the maximum amount they could ask for my Son-in- Laws car was hit by another car when parked at the side of the road. The driver failed to stop but his number plate was recorded by another motorist along with a further witness. The police weren't interested and his Insurance Company although able to contact the drivers insurance say that unless he admits responsibility my Son-in -Law will either have to claim on his insurance or get it repaired at his cost. What sort of society and policing have we in this Country. Where the one's that commit crimes are the victims and the one's that have crimes committed against them are seen as the one's to blame ? | | | |
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