| A major failing of this vastly improved team 10:18 - Mar 15 with 1549 views | ArnieM |
This season, is surely our complete inability to take decent dead ball kicks.
There doesn’t seem to be a player in the squad that can deliver , consistently decent ( let alone dangerous), corner kicks.
With free kicks Celina might be a threat. But we rarely see the goal keeper being worked.
And where has all the threat gone from our defenders at corners? It wasn’t that long ago we felt we might score from corners, as invariably Tommy Smith would get on the end of it. So why doesn’t Woolfie and Edmundson?
We are NO threat from corners or free kicks. In fact we may as well just pass the ball to the opposition for all the use we are at them. That’s a massive miss in my book . What do others think ? |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 10:28 - Mar 15 with 1493 views | Steve_M |
I thought we looked sharper in the last two matches, not every corner obviously but a lot of them. We worked two very good ones on Saturday despite Portsmouth being defensively solid.
We still need to do more, and with out a (legitimate) goal it will still feel frustrating but I thought it was a step in the right direction. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 10:33 - Mar 15 with 1482 views | markchips |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 10:28 - Mar 15 by Steve_M |
I thought we looked sharper in the last two matches, not every corner obviously but a lot of them. We worked two very good ones on Saturday despite Portsmouth being defensively solid.
We still need to do more, and with out a (legitimate) goal it will still feel frustrating but I thought it was a step in the right direction. |
I think we might see an improvement now Burgess is in the team. It wouldn't be a surprise for either him to score or do similar as on Saturday, hopefully with a better end result (decision wise). |  | | |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 10:40 - Mar 15 with 1455 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Agree Arnie. Found this from Oct 21: "In the past 10 Premier League seasons, 3.4 per cent of corners resulted in a goal. So far this season, we are slightly above average at 4 per cent. " The conversion rate from direct free kicks in the Prem is "about 6%". I don't know what our stats are, but it feels like they are about 0%. McKenna cannot be unaware, and I have no doubt he has a plan. Evans and Celina our best, but I hope he has in mind a really good dead ball player to bring in over the summer. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 10:43 - Mar 15 with 1449 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
Tbf, guess u could say we scored from a free kick Saturday, just was wrongly disallowed! |  | | |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 11:02 - Mar 15 with 1384 views | GeoffSentence |
Yep, and set pieces seem like a great way of breaking down these 11 man shthouse defences we come up against. Rotherham certainly don't seem to suffer goal scoring problems the same way we do. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 11:06 - Mar 15 with 1375 views | SheffordBlue |
It's one area that I reckon we will see significant improvement after a pre-season. I think it's clear that McKenna/Pert etc have been focussing on developing the general style of play. Dead ball stuff can be time intensive to coach and I think they've been prioritising that.
Chaplin has delivered some better balls into the box in the last couple of games. | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 11:24 - Mar 15 with 1294 views | BigCommon |
I actually thought Evans' delivery was on the up, last few games before his injury.. But, without doubt, set pieces are an area that we can improve upon, from an attacking sense.. We win a lot of corners, but don't really make them count.... In defense of KM and his staff. They have addressed an awful lot, imo, already ... I'm guessing that there are , only, so many, plates that you can spin, with the available time on the training ground... It seems to me, that , passing patterns, shape, movement and defensive issues, have been getting the lions share of attention... I liken it to our squad, having to learn a new language, to a degree.. I'm sure the analytical side of KM, will be identifying , every area that we can improve by a few %. Set pieces will be amongst that. And , I'm quite sure, it will be duly addressed , in time.... He's only had a few months here.. [Post edited 15 Mar 2022 11:30]
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 11:55 - Mar 15 with 1199 views | Illinoisblue |
Corners in particular have been terrible since Mick left. You can shove your xG stats I want to know how many of our last 100 corners produced a goal or even a goal attempt. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:10 - Mar 15 with 1167 views | BondiBlue |
I think we probably don't have time to practise them in training with all of the other things mckenna's trying to get across. One for pre-season, maybe. I'd expect an improvement next year. | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:13 - Mar 15 with 1147 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Said exactly the same about how dangerous we weren't at set plays after 7 or 8 games and got shot down by someone, (don't recall who), that said we'd scored loads from set pieces.
Its been a problem for quite some time, particularly as you say, at corners. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:21 - Mar 15 with 1120 views | BlueBadger |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:10 - Mar 15 by BondiBlue |
I think we probably don't have time to practise them in training with all of the other things mckenna's trying to get across. One for pre-season, maybe. I'd expect an improvement next year. |
For all the improvement this season, it's worth considering that there's an element of the dreaded 'long term plan' happening right now. Had McKenna had a full pre-season I suspect that, for example, our set piece routines would be better as he'd have identified and recruited a coach for that.
I think summer will see the next stage of our evolution under him with specific specialist coaches and facilities coming in. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:39 - Mar 15 with 1052 views | Garv |
We scored from one on Sat in fairness. Burgess clearly helped.
The issue isn't the delivery. Evans, Celina and Chaplin can all deliver a good ball. It's in the box where the issue lies. |  |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:40 - Mar 15 with 1053 views | franz_tyson |
I’ve never seen what goes on at professional training sessions, but surely dead-ball situations are easier to train at?
A corner is a fixed position. The ball’s not moving. The ball needs to be put into a certain area. There’s usually the same few key players involved in a specific area. Surely a lot of it is repetition training. I’m sure these players have been coached since they were kids for corners, etc.
Sure we can improve at anything - but how much expert coaching do we need for a pro footballer to consistently flight the ball into a dangerous area? Smaller, lesser funded clubs probably don’t have specialist coaches for this and out-do us at dead-ball situations.
Have to say, though, we’re looking far better at defending set-pieces. | | | |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:45 - Mar 15 with 1025 views | Illinoisblue |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:10 - Mar 15 by BondiBlue |
I think we probably don't have time to practise them in training with all of the other things mckenna's trying to get across. One for pre-season, maybe. I'd expect an improvement next year. |
No time?!?!?!? | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:46 - Mar 15 with 1020 views | BlueBadger |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 11:02 - Mar 15 by GeoffSentence |
Yep, and set pieces seem like a great way of breaking down these 11 man shthouse defences we come up against. Rotherham certainly don't seem to suffer goal scoring problems the same way we do. |
That's because Rotherham are pretty sh1thousey themselves. | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:50 - Mar 15 with 1015 views | ElephantintheRoom |
A couple of observations.
1. Fiir a vastly improved team Town haven't made much progress up the table since last season, pre-Cooky
2. Lumping in a header from a corner or hoofing in a free kick requires a certain kind of player who has the confidence and ability to do exactly that. I doubt coaching comes into it one iota .... though MM would suggest that hodies in the box and getting the big fellas forward might help. | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:56 - Mar 15 with 969 views | BondiBlue |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:45 - Mar 15 by Illinoisblue |
No time?!?!?!? |
Must take a while to get us playing the way we are now compared to how we were before. | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 13:23 - Mar 15 with 883 views | Illinoisblue |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:56 - Mar 15 by BondiBlue |
Must take a while to get us playing the way we are now compared to how we were before. |
Doesn’t have to be either/or. Especially given that part of improvement should involve being more productive from corners and free kicks | |
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| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 13:29 - Mar 15 with 871 views | Pendejo |
| A major failing of this vastly improved team on 12:50 - Mar 15 by ElephantintheRoom |
A couple of observations.
1. Fiir a vastly improved team Town haven't made much progress up the table since last season, pre-Cooky
2. Lumping in a header from a corner or hoofing in a free kick requires a certain kind of player who has the confidence and ability to do exactly that. I doubt coaching comes into it one iota .... though MM would suggest that hodies in the box and getting the big fellas forward might help. |
Point 1 i will bite
Pretty much any other year the results under KMK have more of an impact on the table, however, the Cookie Monster out did Lambert for incompetence and left us with too much to do.
Couple this with the relative season long form of those above us, and their games in hand and we needed miracles come 2022.
Compare and contrast to where we were when Cookie Monster took over, take the form under KMK and overlay it on the equivalent period under Cook...
And then go and sob in the corner... It's not fair! |  |
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