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Am I being harsh here 20:26 - Aug 25 with 2205 viewsgtsb1966

by saying you shouldn't have had that many kids in the first place.
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/mum-12-worries-family-never
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Am I being harsh here on 20:48 - Aug 25 with 2070 viewsbelgablue

"and she will have to give up buying Heinz baked beans in favour of own-brand ones unless the situation improves"

I don't know where to start with this quote.

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Am I being harsh here on 21:40 - Aug 25 with 1919 viewsjaykay

you may be right. the thing i cant make out is , a local newspaper local to cambridge is reporting on a far north Scottish family.

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Am I being harsh here on 21:47 - Aug 25 with 1881 viewsLord_Lucan

There is an argument for saying that you shouldn't have kids unless you can afford to bring them up but I don't go with that.

Some people for whatever reason have ended up in the sh1t tree, it may be because they are lazy bastards or it may be that they have been dealt a bad hand

My opinion though is that it is a human right to have babies and you can have as many as you want - but if you can't afford to bring them up without the state getting involved then maybe stick to two eh?

And in anycase, there are too many people on the planet, anyone who decides to have 12 children is a fecking dimsh1t

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Am I being harsh here on 21:52 - Aug 25 with 1805 viewsjeera

I would be surprised if they've put themselves forward for this 'article'.

It's there for them to be hated isn't it.

"Stay-at-home mum Zoe".

I'm sure there's plenty of people who feel the same way who don't have this number of kids but a story about those is not going to have the same impact.



Edited for clarity.
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Am I being harsh here on 21:54 - Aug 25 with 1797 viewsNthsuffolkblue

When did it become a divine right to go away on holiday every year? The story isn't saying they can't afford to live but rather they won't be able to afford to go away on holiday. Not surprising really with a family that big!

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Am I being harsh here on 21:55 - Aug 25 with 1784 viewsBarcaBlue

Am I being harsh here on 21:47 - Aug 25 by Lord_Lucan

There is an argument for saying that you shouldn't have kids unless you can afford to bring them up but I don't go with that.

Some people for whatever reason have ended up in the sh1t tree, it may be because they are lazy bastards or it may be that they have been dealt a bad hand

My opinion though is that it is a human right to have babies and you can have as many as you want - but if you can't afford to bring them up without the state getting involved then maybe stick to two eh?

And in anycase, there are too many people on the planet, anyone who decides to have 12 children is a fecking dimsh1t


That makes little sense. You can have as many as you want but maybe no more than two, and twelve is just daft. What if you want twelve?
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Am I being harsh here on 21:56 - Aug 25 with 1766 viewsjeera

Am I being harsh here on 21:54 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue

When did it become a divine right to go away on holiday every year? The story isn't saying they can't afford to live but rather they won't be able to afford to go away on holiday. Not surprising really with a family that big!


I doubt she's written the piece herself.

More like having been asked if/how they will afford holidays she's probably replied they doubt they will.

Which is probably true.

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Am I being harsh here on 21:57 - Aug 25 with 1733 viewsWD19

Am I being harsh here on 21:54 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue

When did it become a divine right to go away on holiday every year? The story isn't saying they can't afford to live but rather they won't be able to afford to go away on holiday. Not surprising really with a family that big!


She is in holiday poverty.

Having to make do with Jet2 when the average family get to go First Choice.

It is inhumane.
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Am I being harsh here on 21:57 - Aug 25 with 1739 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Am I being harsh here on 21:56 - Aug 25 by jeera

I doubt she's written the piece herself.

More like having been asked if/how they will afford holidays she's probably replied they doubt they will.

Which is probably true.


The implication from whoever has written it is that everyone should expect to do so.

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Am I being harsh here on 21:57 - Aug 25 with 1738 viewsjeera

Am I being harsh here on 21:55 - Aug 25 by BarcaBlue

That makes little sense. You can have as many as you want but maybe no more than two, and twelve is just daft. What if you want twelve?


I'd rather people didn't have loads of children and have always thought it irresponsible and selfish when there are so many people who feel guilty for having just one or two.

But they're here now and I'm not going to hate them just for existing!

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Am I being harsh here on 21:58 - Aug 25 with 1730 viewsjeera

Am I being harsh here on 21:57 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue

The implication from whoever has written it is that everyone should expect to do so.


Agree and I've always thought it a bizarre concept too.

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Am I being harsh here on 22:05 - Aug 25 with 1664 viewsLord_Lucan

Am I being harsh here on 21:55 - Aug 25 by BarcaBlue

That makes little sense. You can have as many as you want but maybe no more than two, and twelve is just daft. What if you want twelve?


I didn't expect it to be so complicated to understand.

You can have as many kids as you want as I don't agree with a state that forbids you having kids. It is a human right, no one should have the power to make decisions over your body.

So - I believe you have the right to do as you wish.

I then go on to suggest that if you can't fund them then maybe two is a good balance.

12 would be irresponsible and downright moronic.

By the way - Young RKD is in Barcelona at the moment - although he's probably shot to bits. Apparently they have Amsterdam stylee coffee shops in Barcelona now?

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Am I being harsh here on 22:07 - Aug 25 with 1649 viewsmylittletown

No you are not.
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Am I being harsh here on 22:11 - Aug 25 with 1621 viewsbluelagos

Am I being harsh here on 22:05 - Aug 25 by Lord_Lucan

I didn't expect it to be so complicated to understand.

You can have as many kids as you want as I don't agree with a state that forbids you having kids. It is a human right, no one should have the power to make decisions over your body.

So - I believe you have the right to do as you wish.

I then go on to suggest that if you can't fund them then maybe two is a good balance.

12 would be irresponsible and downright moronic.

By the way - Young RKD is in Barcelona at the moment - although he's probably shot to bits. Apparently they have Amsterdam stylee coffee shops in Barcelona now?


So Catalonia allows you to visit a club, members only, were you can legally smoke weed on the premises. They don't advertise it as they don't wish to end up like Amsterdam.

As a foreigner, i was signed in by a member, had to take my passport but all legit. You wouldn't have known it was a cannabis club from the outside.

That was about 4 years ago.

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Am I being harsh here on 22:17 - Aug 25 with 1601 viewsbluelagos

Yes. Judging people because they have made different choices to you (or me) doesn't sit well. Quite posssible the kids come from previous marriages. And if they are all planned, quite possible the family thought they could provide for them but circumstances changed.

(You did ask)

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Am I being harsh here on 22:26 - Aug 25 with 1549 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Am I being harsh here on 22:17 - Aug 25 by bluelagos

Yes. Judging people because they have made different choices to you (or me) doesn't sit well. Quite posssible the kids come from previous marriages. And if they are all planned, quite possible the family thought they could provide for them but circumstances changed.

(You did ask)


There is also a link between large families such as this and groups who do not believe that birth control is right. I find it unfortunate that there are groups that believe all forms of birth control are wrong. If a family struggles to afford to support themselves due to this practice it is very sad. Of course, many families have no issue financially but I would still question it environmentally and in terms of population increases.

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Am I being harsh here on 22:27 - Aug 25 with 1533 viewsthebooks

[shrugs] you’re sharing an odd story that seems to imply the cost of living crisis is down to “moral” choices. Dunno if “harsh” is the word for it.

They can have 30 kids for all I care.
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Am I being harsh here on 22:34 - Aug 25 with 1489 viewsLord_Lucan

Am I being harsh here on 22:11 - Aug 25 by bluelagos

So Catalonia allows you to visit a club, members only, were you can legally smoke weed on the premises. They don't advertise it as they don't wish to end up like Amsterdam.

As a foreigner, i was signed in by a member, had to take my passport but all legit. You wouldn't have known it was a cannabis club from the outside.

That was about 4 years ago.


I think I've been to Barca three times but I don't remember the coffee shops. Mind you,I'm more of a chemical man these days. Weed fries your brain baby!

Saw The Stones in Barcelona once and it coincided with a Harley Davidson festival, it was quite the weekend! I got ridiculously sunburnt like a true bald Brit, so much so that I struggled to get on the plane to fly home. Complete agony!

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Am I being harsh here on 22:41 - Aug 25 with 1462 viewsbluelagos

Am I being harsh here on 22:34 - Aug 25 by Lord_Lucan

I think I've been to Barca three times but I don't remember the coffee shops. Mind you,I'm more of a chemical man these days. Weed fries your brain baby!

Saw The Stones in Barcelona once and it coincided with a Harley Davidson festival, it was quite the weekend! I got ridiculously sunburnt like a true bald Brit, so much so that I struggled to get on the plane to fly home. Complete agony!

One of my favourite places as it happens.


So the lad who invited me, turned out he had one of the licences for a cannabis venue. He invited me to invest in a site and explained how it all worked. Sounded good until he explained his plans to expand by exporting weed to the UK, through the postal system.

I pointed out that drug dealing/smuggling to the UK wasn't exactly legal but he countered that we could defend our practice as he'd read on the web that cannabis could be a cure for cancer and that was how we could market it.

Fair to say he'd smoked rather too much weed over the years.

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Am I being harsh here on 22:42 - Aug 25 with 1454 viewsmonytowbray

Am I being harsh here on 21:40 - Aug 25 by jaykay

you may be right. the thing i cant make out is , a local newspaper local to cambridge is reporting on a far north Scottish family.


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Am I being harsh here on 22:43 - Aug 25 with 1456 viewsBarcaBlue

Am I being harsh here on 22:05 - Aug 25 by Lord_Lucan

I didn't expect it to be so complicated to understand.

You can have as many kids as you want as I don't agree with a state that forbids you having kids. It is a human right, no one should have the power to make decisions over your body.

So - I believe you have the right to do as you wish.

I then go on to suggest that if you can't fund them then maybe two is a good balance.

12 would be irresponsible and downright moronic.

By the way - Young RKD is in Barcelona at the moment - although he's probably shot to bits. Apparently they have Amsterdam stylee coffee shops in Barcelona now?


It was the opening paragraph that appeared to contradict the rest of the post but I wasn't thinking you were referring to the state controlling numbers. That's why I couldn't follow the logic.

I live 100km inland from Barcelona, and apart from trips to the Nou Camp and airport I don't think I've been in the city itself for about 10 years. It's a bit of a strange one, internationally the city has full on promotion, locally they're actively trying to restrict tourist numbers. Wouldn't surprise me at all about the coffee shops, it's all part of their mixed messaging.. Barcelona, best city in Europe,all the best bits from other European cities, great climate, fantastic architecture but maybe best if you don't come as we're creaking under sheer weight of numbers.
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Am I being harsh here on 23:04 - Aug 25 with 1375 viewsLord_Lucan

Am I being harsh here on 22:43 - Aug 25 by BarcaBlue

It was the opening paragraph that appeared to contradict the rest of the post but I wasn't thinking you were referring to the state controlling numbers. That's why I couldn't follow the logic.

I live 100km inland from Barcelona, and apart from trips to the Nou Camp and airport I don't think I've been in the city itself for about 10 years. It's a bit of a strange one, internationally the city has full on promotion, locally they're actively trying to restrict tourist numbers. Wouldn't surprise me at all about the coffee shops, it's all part of their mixed messaging.. Barcelona, best city in Europe,all the best bits from other European cities, great climate, fantastic architecture but maybe best if you don't come as we're creaking under sheer weight of numbers.


Don't panic, I'm not coming anytime soon. I do love Barcelona and believe it or not they have a bit of a Mod culture over there. I met up with a few after The Stones gig.

Love the place but I've done it now. I love Spain so much but haven't been for 5 or 6 years. Favourite place is El Peurto de Santa Maria just close to Jerez but next time I go I fancy hitting the north.
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Am I being harsh here on 08:45 - Aug 26 with 1048 viewsGeoffSentence

Am I being harsh here on 21:47 - Aug 25 by Lord_Lucan

There is an argument for saying that you shouldn't have kids unless you can afford to bring them up but I don't go with that.

Some people for whatever reason have ended up in the sh1t tree, it may be because they are lazy bastards or it may be that they have been dealt a bad hand

My opinion though is that it is a human right to have babies and you can have as many as you want - but if you can't afford to bring them up without the state getting involved then maybe stick to two eh?

And in anycase, there are too many people on the planet, anyone who decides to have 12 children is a fecking dimsh1t


Choosing to have twelve children is one thing. But whining about the inevitable expense of having them is pure fwckwiterrry.

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Am I being harsh here on 08:50 - Aug 26 with 1028 viewsjeera

Am I being harsh here on 08:45 - Aug 26 by GeoffSentence

Choosing to have twelve children is one thing. But whining about the inevitable expense of having them is pure fwckwiterrry.


"Whining about the expense".

Come on mate, seriously.

It's like a family has been selected, questions have been asked and a article has been mashed together.

It's certainly got the reaction it was hoping for by the look of it.

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This is what happens when.... on 08:52 - Aug 26 with 1017 viewsBloots

....she just loves it and he won't put a bag on it.

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