| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? 10:44 - Sep 28 with 1650 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
All the talk about politics ATM, if we were to form the TWTD party what policies would we like have in our manifesto?
Genuine suggestions and why, what impact do you think they would have? Let's see what good we can actually do. I'm genuinely interested to see what we can come up with and have provided 2 suggestions below.
1. Leaglsie weed, only weed.
Why? The tax income from it could be huge, and all be divered to wherever we see need. The NHS foe example.
Or make make it state owned and then all profits and taxes can get ploughed in.
Takes the criminal element out of supply reducing ill gotten gains and probably helps with prison over crowding.
People will say but weed is a gateway drug. Well so is booze, so is tobacco. I was addicted to crisps well before I was addicted to tobacco so are crisps a gateway drug too? Also by the logic myself and many of my friends should all be crackheads by now. None of us our, only 1 person I know dabbles in anything stronger
Speaking from personal experience I think i would smoke less if weed were legalised. The nature of supply means you don't want to lose touch with your dealer so you buy more often, at least you do when you get older as your network becomes ever decreasin7g circles.
I wouldn't introduce cafes, I would simply state that people can smoke in their own home and maybe certain designated places if suitable ones could be identified.
2. Legalise brothels. Bit more controversial this and I get why but I would advocate the NZ model.
This would mean brothels are legal, streetwalking is not.
Why?
1. More taxable income, the establiments and workers would have to be registered all paying relevant income tax, business taxes etc.
2. Safety, a legal requirement to hire door people, a reduction in fear of punishment from the law for those trafficked or forced into such work should they report it, a legal requirement for all workers to have a regular STI tests (not paid for by the NHS, all funds raised from payments to go back into the NHS) plus a generally safer environment in which to work
3. Local councils able to apply planning laws, any such establishment cannot be in a residential area to ensure local residents not affected etc. Can also then put limits on the size of any establishment and the number of people that can work within.
4. Despite best efforts this kind of work has never been and will never be eradicated, its the oldest profession on the world for a reason and working with the industry seems are more sensitive and cost effective than havingnit continue to operate outside the law.
I realise both my suggestions are controversial at least to some but I think both on the whole do good.
Each is considered in the context of both improving tbe public purse and making life better for those involved.
I think these are sensible and practical solutions that could be implemented without too much difficulty though I'm sure many will disagree.
What other radical or sensible things could we propose?
I'd like to genuine policy suggestions for is to fix the country, rather than sentiment such as "ban all racists" which is obviously a given but not really a policy, more just being a good human being
More humoursly (there may have been a thread on this recently tbf) nominations from TWTD for (real) ministerial positions.
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 10:49 - Sep 28 with 1018 views | homer_123 |
Ringfence Education, the NHS, Police (and other emergency services).
So, that they cannot be political footballs and are properly funded and resourced and are free from short terms political thinking. |  |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 10:58 - Sep 28 with 995 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 10:49 - Sep 28 by homer_123 |
Ringfence Education, the NHS, Police (and other emergency services).
So, that they cannot be political footballs and are properly funded and resourced and are free from short terms political thinking. |
Thanks Homer but is that possible?
The NHS is a black hole for finance so what are you committing too if you ring-fence that? I think the NHS needs reform throughout, though not privatisation, I do recall we had a thread on exactly how TWD might make.it more efficient with some v good suggestions | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:03 - Sep 28 with 974 views | leitrimblue |
If yer gonna legalise weed then surely yer gonna need some kinda coffee shop/pharmacy system otherwise be difficult to tax. Also gonna need some kinda licensing an price guarantee for growers or people will just bypass the legal system and continue to see illegally |  | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:06 - Sep 28 with 964 views | Keno |
1, Ban all sports teams that play in green and yellow
2, ban extendable dog leads |  |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:09 - Sep 28 with 949 views | leitrimblue |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:06 - Sep 28 by Keno |
1, Ban all sports teams that play in green and yellow
2, ban extendable dog leads |
Ban extendable dog leads! Knew you would come out with some crazy edgy comment designed to split the board in 2 Ken, but wasn't expecting anything as controversial as that | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:10 - Sep 28 with 948 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Perhaps not radical enough for some, but ultimately a rethink of globalisation. Most of the West has pretty much run out of money now. Debt to GDP ratios are getting to unsustainable levels, and standards of living and public service all over will suffer. Workers don’t have the money to pick up the slack in terms of the treasury and funding healthcare, education, law and order and unfortunately Defence.
Ultimately globalisation has allowed corporations to create a taxation race to the bottom. Profits and individual wealth in the form of billions have been created with access to new markets. Fundamentally it’s these firms who need to pay more towards the societies in which they operate. Not just the oil majors but the Google’s, Amazons, Starbucks, Coca Cola etc. if globalisation is to survive there needs to be far more regulation of taxes. The deal minimum taxation deal of 15pc is not even a start. These firms should be paying more lie 50pc on profits in every country of operation. The alternative to this is that Governments themselves invest heavily in equity int he firms and take the money out this way via dividends in the manner of Sovereign Wealth funds. It would also give governments more control in ensuring these firms meet their ESG commitments. |  | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:11 - Sep 28 with 950 views | blueasfook |
So your main concerns are weed and hookers?
You are Howard Marks and I claim my free spliff |  |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:11 - Sep 28 with 947 views | Mookamoo |
Rent caps based on council tax bands and income through property to be taxed at 50%
We need to remove the idea that people can buy up housing stock for investment. |  | | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:12 - Sep 28 with 936 views | leitrimblue |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:11 - Sep 28 by blueasfook |
So your main concerns are weed and hookers?
You are Howard Marks and I claim my free spliff |
I'm sure he as other policy's, he's just dealing with the important ones we all worry about first | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:13 - Sep 28 with 935 views | Keno |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:09 - Sep 28 by leitrimblue |
Ban extendable dog leads! Knew you would come out with some crazy edgy comment designed to split the board in 2 Ken, but wasn't expecting anything as controversial as that |
They are the pure work of the devil!!
the latest thing is ridiculously long leads that are really meant as training reigns for horses that lets a dog of 20 years or more
Just train the dog properly, it isnt that hard!!! | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:14 - Sep 28 with 919 views | leitrimblue |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:13 - Sep 28 by Keno |
They are the pure work of the devil!!
the latest thing is ridiculously long leads that are really meant as training reigns for horses that lets a dog of 20 years or more
Just train the dog properly, it isnt that hard!!! |
I'm more of a just open the door and let the dog run around the estate hassling kids kinda dog owner | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:14 - Sep 28 with 919 views | homer_123 |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 10:58 - Sep 28 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Thanks Homer but is that possible?
The NHS is a black hole for finance so what are you committing too if you ring-fence that? I think the NHS needs reform throughout, though not privatisation, I do recall we had a thread on exactly how TWD might make.it more efficient with some v good suggestions |
Depends on what sort of society you want. | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:14 - Sep 28 with 921 views | MattinLondon |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:11 - Sep 28 by Mookamoo |
Rent caps based on council tax bands and income through property to be taxed at 50%
We need to remove the idea that people can buy up housing stock for investment. |
Will that work? Some proper dives in London share the same post code with more glamorous streets.
But I’ll tax people with multiple properties much much higher. Also people with second homes as well - their nice retreat in Cornwall (for example) is ruining local communities. |  | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:20 - Sep 28 with 903 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:11 - Sep 28 by blueasfook |
So your main concerns are weed and hookers?
You are Howard Marks and I claim my free spliff |
Wish I was Howard Marks legend, I do have his autograph.
They are not my main concerns bur they are both areas where I think relatively simple change could have a positive impact in a couple of ways, the post is radical thinking | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:28 - Sep 28 with 891 views | Mookamoo |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:14 - Sep 28 by MattinLondon |
Will that work? Some proper dives in London share the same post code with more glamorous streets.
But I’ll tax people with multiple properties much much higher. Also people with second homes as well - their nice retreat in Cornwall (for example) is ruining local communities. |
Not perfect but they have to do something. Using an existing tax system seems the obvious way to manage it through.
Second home is difficult. Perhaps rural communities can have the power to raise their own taxes with a local housing scheme which requires homeowners to declare that a property is their primary residence. If a property is a second home and occupied for less than 6 months, they get an extra loading on top of their council tax. | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:35 - Sep 28 with 872 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:03 - Sep 28 by leitrimblue |
If yer gonna legalise weed then surely yer gonna need some kinda coffee shop/pharmacy system otherwise be difficult to tax. Also gonna need some kinda licensing an price guarantee for growers or people will just bypass the legal system and continue to see illegally |
He's not - he's going to "Leaglsie weed". |  |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:48 - Sep 28 with 832 views | leitrimblue |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:35 - Sep 28 by BasingstokeBlue |
He's not - he's going to "Leaglsie weed". |
I like to think that's because he started this morning on a good strong breakfast weed. Setting him up well for the long day ahead | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:54 - Sep 28 with 823 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 11:48 - Sep 28 by leitrimblue |
I like to think that's because he started this morning on a good strong breakfast weed. Setting him up well for the long day ahead |
Again I wish but I'm actually very regimented.
I never smoke until after I have finished work for the day.
I thnik I could probably work when high ESP as I WFH these days but feels best not to risk it.
I'm actually toying with the idea of giving up but this would be after we go to see Paulo Nutini in Nov becaues I defo want to be enjoying the effects for that.
Having said that I've been toying with that idea for some time, the road to hell is of course paved with good intentions. | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:00 - Sep 28 with 818 views | WeWereZombies |
Could always go down the decriminalisation route as Jamaica have done, that doesn't mean ganja is legalised there but you cannot be busted for holding or growing small scale (but still be stopped and searched with your stash taken away if the police think you are supplying to the unwary - I've seen that happen, the guy wasn't happy but he wasn't arrested either.) |  |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:03 - Sep 28 with 816 views | bungaytractor |
Curfew for pensioners so they dont go to shops , post office ect when im there.... havent got all bloody day like you lol | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:14 - Sep 28 with 797 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:00 - Sep 28 by WeWereZombies |
Could always go down the decriminalisation route as Jamaica have done, that doesn't mean ganja is legalised there but you cannot be busted for holding or growing small scale (but still be stopped and searched with your stash taken away if the police think you are supplying to the unwary - I've seen that happen, the guy wasn't happy but he wasn't arrested either.) |
Whilst that takes the criminality out of it it doesn't bring the revenue, at least not the public purse.
I think legalise and sell through pharmacies, tax it both fpr the buyer and the seller (the latter essentially a liswcene to sell fee)
Or make or state owned and set up small stores through that as your distribution network, that plus possibly online.
Hopefully that would also lead to hemp which has a multitude of uses also being used more widely | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:16 - Sep 28 with 793 views | BlueBadger |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:03 - Sep 28 by bungaytractor |
Curfew for pensioners so they dont go to shops , post office ect when im there.... havent got all bloody day like you lol |
He said, having made multiple posts in 'working hours' over the past week. |  |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:22 - Sep 28 with 783 views | WeWereZombies |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:16 - Sep 28 by BlueBadger |
He said, having made multiple posts in 'working hours' over the past week. |
It is possible to read TWTD on a smartphone, and then to post replies from that phone...even whilst you are serving behind a counter. | |
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| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:25 - Sep 28 with 777 views | bungaytractor |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:16 - Sep 28 by BlueBadger |
He said, having made multiple posts in 'working hours' over the past week. |
Well im not taking ages in post office using it as a social club or paying in copper's at tesco am i..... | | | |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:28 - Sep 28 with 767 views | BlueBadger |
| Twtd political party manifesto- Radical thinking, what have we got? on 12:25 - Sep 28 by bungaytractor |
Well im not taking ages in post office using it as a social club or paying in copper's at tesco am i..... |
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You could use the time you spend in a queue doing some online adult literacy courses? | |
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