| Decent stuff today from Starmer 23:18 - Sep 27 with 1355 views | XYZ |
Yes, it's an open goal, but he does seem to have some decent policies at last.
Have they said anything on rail nationalisation? |  | | |  |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 23:41 - Sep 27 with 1310 views | Ryorry |
Just said on another thread that he needs to keep on with fighting talk like that, properly passionate. The publicly owned green/renewable energy company idea is excellent.
Don't think he said anything re rail nationalisation, but better if he keeps releasing policies (or proposals for them) at regular intervals rather than all in one go.
Always been a Labour supporter, but have just joined the party for the first time ever. |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 23:51 - Sep 27 with 1301 views | XYZ |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 23:41 - Sep 27 by Ryorry |
Just said on another thread that he needs to keep on with fighting talk like that, properly passionate. The publicly owned green/renewable energy company idea is excellent.
Don't think he said anything re rail nationalisation, but better if he keeps releasing policies (or proposals for them) at regular intervals rather than all in one go.
Always been a Labour supporter, but have just joined the party for the first time ever. |
I've only seen a 15-min Youtube clip, so not sure of the editing.
Easily the best I've heard from him. I think (hope) DK and BDS may be surprised at their policy slate. One step at a time - I'm convinced he was about to say they're "walking towards adversity".
Labour/ Britain/ ITFC the future is ours!
Edit: can't spell properly. [Post edited 27 Sep 2022 23:53]
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 06:33 - Sep 28 with 1186 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 23:51 - Sep 27 by XYZ |
I've only seen a 15-min Youtube clip, so not sure of the editing.
Easily the best I've heard from him. I think (hope) DK and BDS may be surprised at their policy slate. One step at a time - I'm convinced he was about to say they're "walking towards adversity".
Labour/ Britain/ ITFC the future is ours!
Edit: can't spell properly. [Post edited 27 Sep 2022 23:53]
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I think they did say something like "running towards the problems, not away from them" and it did make me smile and think of ITFC. |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:34 - Sep 28 with 1098 views | Plums |
He's played the long game. Kept his mouth shut and waited for the Tories to implode as they inevitably would before needing to expose any policy. It's an open goal.
Delighted to see Rayner and the BBC exposing Tufton Street too - at last.
I'm not a Labour supporter but they've played this well. |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:53 - Sep 28 with 1071 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:34 - Sep 28 by Plums |
He's played the long game. Kept his mouth shut and waited for the Tories to implode as they inevitably would before needing to expose any policy. It's an open goal.
Delighted to see Rayner and the BBC exposing Tufton Street too - at last.
I'm not a Labour supporter but they've played this well. |
At last. The access the TPA have had to the media and public debate is extraordinary.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63039558 |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:54 - Sep 28 with 1067 views | Churchman |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:34 - Sep 28 by Plums |
He's played the long game. Kept his mouth shut and waited for the Tories to implode as they inevitably would before needing to expose any policy. It's an open goal.
Delighted to see Rayner and the BBC exposing Tufton Street too - at last.
I'm not a Labour supporter but they've played this well. |
It’s a cliche but governments lose elections - and the hapless Tory boneheads have done just that. Starmer just needs to keep it quiet, show a crumb of competence and he’s home and hosed.
I see even the IMF are slaughtering our yawningly stupid Chancellor now, which is pretty much unheard of. |  | | |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 08:25 - Sep 28 with 1010 views | NthQldITFC |
I think he's starting to step up well. There are things in his philosophy that I fundamentally disagree with as long term goals, but I accept that they are probably short to medium term necessities. We have to be able to compromise like that, and put aside rhetoric in order to get things moving in, if not the right, then at least a better direction. |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 08:41 - Sep 28 with 990 views | Plums |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:54 - Sep 28 by Churchman |
It’s a cliche but governments lose elections - and the hapless Tory boneheads have done just that. Starmer just needs to keep it quiet, show a crumb of competence and he’s home and hosed.
I see even the IMF are slaughtering our yawningly stupid Chancellor now, which is pretty much unheard of. |
I'm not really into conspiracies had the horrible thought last night:
'what if Truss and Kwartang have done this deliberately?'
i.e. crashed the UK economy for a short term wheeze for their short selling pals knowing that external pressure will force a swift u-turn and minor recovery.
Then I remembered that they're probably not that clever but it still sent a shiver down my spine. | |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 08:43 - Sep 28 with 987 views | Plums |
I agree, this is a heist of the highest order. History will not look kindly upon this period. | |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 08:46 - Sep 28 with 985 views | Steve_M |
On rail nationalisation, Louise Haigh has won the argument in favour of it, was announced earlier in the week. It's more straightforward to take franchises back in house (we're halfway there at the moment anyway) than any movement on energy will be.
On the wider point, Rafael Behr is good on Starmer's performance today:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/27/keir-starmer-labour-liz-tr
Key paragraph for me:
"Politics fans will always find Starmer frustrating because he isn’t very ism-able. That is sometimes mistaken for being unprincipled or shallow. To the doctrinaire mind, the absence of doctrine indicates a shortage of belief. But most people go about their lives carrying values and principles in their heads without feeling the need to codify them as a system and test it for internal consistency. They judge politicians on the basis of impressions formed about their character, using the normal human metrics — does someone seem decent, trustworthy, kind, capable, sane?" |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 08:57 - Sep 28 with 962 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 07:54 - Sep 28 by Churchman |
It’s a cliche but governments lose elections - and the hapless Tory boneheads have done just that. Starmer just needs to keep it quiet, show a crumb of competence and he’s home and hosed.
I see even the IMF are slaughtering our yawningly stupid Chancellor now, which is pretty much unheard of. |
I said from way back when Truss was an outsider in the leadership race that she would get in and be a disaster and it seems I was justified in saying so.
The £ has hit us / me like a bloody sledgehammer, I was putting off getting an electric car as I was worried that our overheads were getting too heavy but the collapse of the £ cost me two years Tesla payments overnight!!
The IMF can do one though, they have a history of criticising UK and they can feck off as far as I am concerned. We aren’t exactly an emerging country and we aren’t asking them for money - yet. |  |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 09:31 - Sep 28 with 904 views | Hogger |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 23:41 - Sep 27 by Ryorry |
Just said on another thread that he needs to keep on with fighting talk like that, properly passionate. The publicly owned green/renewable energy company idea is excellent.
Don't think he said anything re rail nationalisation, but better if he keeps releasing policies (or proposals for them) at regular intervals rather than all in one go.
Always been a Labour supporter, but have just joined the party for the first time ever. |
Me too.... | | | |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 12:49 - Sep 28 with 796 views | Ryorry |
| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 08:46 - Sep 28 by Steve_M |
On rail nationalisation, Louise Haigh has won the argument in favour of it, was announced earlier in the week. It's more straightforward to take franchises back in house (we're halfway there at the moment anyway) than any movement on energy will be.
On the wider point, Rafael Behr is good on Starmer's performance today:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/27/keir-starmer-labour-liz-tr
Key paragraph for me:
"Politics fans will always find Starmer frustrating because he isn’t very ism-able. That is sometimes mistaken for being unprincipled or shallow. To the doctrinaire mind, the absence of doctrine indicates a shortage of belief. But most people go about their lives carrying values and principles in their heads without feeling the need to codify them as a system and test it for internal consistency. They judge politicians on the basis of impressions formed about their character, using the normal human metrics — does someone seem decent, trustworthy, kind, capable, sane?" |
Couple of TV vox pops following his speech said that he is now presenting as "the grown up" in charge at Westminster who the general public are likely to trust - they want someone stable & sensible, not someone with "charisma".
Nailed it. Phew, never thought I'd live to hear such words! The last few years in UK & US politics have been dictated by blondes who are superficially appealing to stupid and/or self-interested voters. | |
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| Decent stuff today from Starmer on 13:02 - Sep 28 with 762 views | clive_baker |
It's a real gift for him, I'm sure he could say nothing for the next 12 months and still win a GE but I'm hoping the Tories are obliterated and to do that I want to see him coming out firing and shooting from the hip. He just needs to say it as it is.
It's actually really straight forward communication now, Tories are creating the perfect conditions for Labour to successfully compete. Everything the Tories seemingly stand for, Labour need to evidence that they don't. |  |
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