| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended 13:22 - Oct 19 with 2143 views | homer_123 |
Gets worse for her?
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 13:50 - Oct 19 with 1582 views | DanTheMan |
They're doing the full 3 line whip today over fracking, so this will be quite fun. |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 13:58 - Oct 19 with 1555 views | GlasgowBlue |
Apparently, the threshold has been passed for number of letters to trigger a leadership election. However, as the rules state she can't be challenged for a full calendar year, Sir Graham Brady is saying that he will hold an election if the number of letters recived suprpasses 50% of the parliamentary Tory party.
So that's 179. I did read that it had reached 100. |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:06 - Oct 19 with 1524 views | baxterbasics |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 13:58 - Oct 19 by GlasgowBlue |
Apparently, the threshold has been passed for number of letters to trigger a leadership election. However, as the rules state she can't be challenged for a full calendar year, Sir Graham Brady is saying that he will hold an election if the number of letters recived suprpasses 50% of the parliamentary Tory party.
So that's 179. I did read that it had reached 100. |
It's not going to happen. She might be persuaded to resign of course, but I cannot see any forcing her out at least until the year has passed, and in any case I think it would be a big mistake (as was forcing out Boris, which I think is now obvious). |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:08 - Oct 19 with 1512 views | StokieBlue |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 13:58 - Oct 19 by GlasgowBlue |
Apparently, the threshold has been passed for number of letters to trigger a leadership election. However, as the rules state she can't be challenged for a full calendar year, Sir Graham Brady is saying that he will hold an election if the number of letters recived suprpasses 50% of the parliamentary Tory party.
So that's 179. I did read that it had reached 100. |
It shows you what a ridiculous position we are in when the Tory leadership rules don't account for it because they never expected a replacement PM to be quite so rubbish.
It's a bit ridiculous that the bar is so much higher to get her removed than Boris though.
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:11 - Oct 19 with 1494 views | StokieBlue |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:06 - Oct 19 by baxterbasics |
It's not going to happen. She might be persuaded to resign of course, but I cannot see any forcing her out at least until the year has passed, and in any case I think it would be a big mistake (as was forcing out Boris, which I think is now obvious). |
Removing a PM because he's a liar who has contempt for the country and doesn't think the rules apply to him is not a mistake. The "something worse" argument is annoying.
The issue here is that the Tory membership can't be trusted and shouldn't be allowed to select a PM for the entire country. Direct your ire at the ridiculousness of that process and the ridiculousness of their views.
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:15 - Oct 19 with 1479 views | baxterbasics |
Also check this out for bantz.
So imagine the scenario: Conservative MPs come up with a plan to give LT the boot and replace with one candidate that most of them can unite behind, to avoid a contest (Hunt or Rishi, likely). BJ throws his hat in the ring 'last minute' - knowing full well members will choose him. The MPs might avoid this of course, by finding a third candidate so they can then make sure Bozza isn't in the final two.
All this requires a high level of unity among Conservative MPs of course, which is rarely seen. | |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:16 - Oct 19 with 1461 views | giant_stow |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:06 - Oct 19 by baxterbasics |
It's not going to happen. She might be persuaded to resign of course, but I cannot see any forcing her out at least until the year has passed, and in any case I think it would be a big mistake (as was forcing out Boris, which I think is now obvious). |
It may well have been a big mistake to remove Boris for Tory supporters, but not for people who care about decency in public life. Why would removing Truss be a mistake out of interest? Do you mean in Tory staying in power terms or in terms of whats best for the country? |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:19 - Oct 19 with 1438 views | baxterbasics |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:11 - Oct 19 by StokieBlue |
Removing a PM because he's a liar who has contempt for the country and doesn't think the rules apply to him is not a mistake. The "something worse" argument is annoying.
The issue here is that the Tory membership can't be trusted and shouldn't be allowed to select a PM for the entire country. Direct your ire at the ridiculousness of that process and the ridiculousness of their views.
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I really meant it was a mistake from a political perspective, rather than a 'what's best for the country' or moral correctness.
I think in most situations it is a mistake to sack your leader while they are a serving PM with a majority. The electorate knew what they were getting in 2019, it was priced in. | |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:19 - Oct 19 with 1426 views | Radlett_blue |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:11 - Oct 19 by StokieBlue |
Removing a PM because he's a liar who has contempt for the country and doesn't think the rules apply to him is not a mistake. The "something worse" argument is annoying.
The issue here is that the Tory membership can't be trusted and shouldn't be allowed to select a PM for the entire country. Direct your ire at the ridiculousness of that process and the ridiculousness of their views.
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Although the Labour rules for electing their leader give even more power to party members & that's what produced the near unelectable Corbyn. |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:22 - Oct 19 with 1401 views | baxterbasics |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:19 - Oct 19 by Radlett_blue |
Although the Labour rules for electing their leader give even more power to party members & that's what produced the near unelectable Corbyn. |
Labour rules make it a lot harder to sack the leader. Conservative rules make it far too easy! | |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:23 - Oct 19 with 1399 views | XYZ |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:19 - Oct 19 by baxterbasics |
I really meant it was a mistake from a political perspective, rather than a 'what's best for the country' or moral correctness.
I think in most situations it is a mistake to sack your leader while they are a serving PM with a majority. The electorate knew what they were getting in 2019, it was priced in. |
That'll be why the tories' poll ratings fell off a cliff when partygate emerged?
What was it, 60 ministerial resignations all saying he wasn't fit to hold the office?
Edit: typo. [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 14:26]
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:23 - Oct 19 with 1395 views | Steve_M |
For briefing against Javid, he would have been up to ask a question about it at PMQs otherwise apparently. |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:25 - Oct 19 with 1383 views | StokieBlue |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:19 - Oct 19 by Radlett_blue |
Although the Labour rules for electing their leader give even more power to party members & that's what produced the near unelectable Corbyn. |
Slightly different, they weren't the sitting government so they can pretty much do what they want with regards to electing a leader.
The Tory membership were giving us a new PM with a completely different set of ideas and absolutely no mandate to implement them.
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:25 - Oct 19 with 1386 views | baxterbasics |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:23 - Oct 19 by XYZ |
That'll be why the tories' poll ratings fell off a cliff when partygate emerged?
What was it, 60 ministerial resignations all saying he wasn't fit to hold the office?
Edit: typo. [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 14:26]
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Fell of a cliff = about 5 points behind Labour.
They are now 30 points behind.
Most of those 60 resignees were quite comfortable with his fitness right up until headlines and polls started to turn. | |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:29 - Oct 19 with 1359 views | bungaytractor |
Can i make my suspenders and belts joke here again might get a laugh | | | |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:31 - Oct 19 with 1211 views | Ryorry |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:08 - Oct 19 by StokieBlue |
It shows you what a ridiculous position we are in when the Tory leadership rules don't account for it because they never expected a replacement PM to be quite so rubbish.
It's a bit ridiculous that the bar is so much higher to get her removed than Boris though.
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I wonder if MickMack has been yelling "Be careful what you wish for" at his TV & radio ...  |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:46 - Oct 19 with 1188 views | BlueBadger |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:15 - Oct 19 by baxterbasics |
Also check this out for bantz.
So imagine the scenario: Conservative MPs come up with a plan to give LT the boot and replace with one candidate that most of them can unite behind, to avoid a contest (Hunt or Rishi, likely). BJ throws his hat in the ring 'last minute' - knowing full well members will choose him. The MPs might avoid this of course, by finding a third candidate so they can then make sure Bozza isn't in the final two.
All this requires a high level of unity among Conservative MPs of course, which is rarely seen. |
LOL
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:49 - Oct 19 with 1172 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:29 - Oct 19 by bungaytractor |
Can i make my suspenders and belts joke here again might get a laugh |
Go on then, but make it briefs. | | | |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:52 - Oct 19 with 1156 views | BlueBadger |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:06 - Oct 19 by baxterbasics |
It's not going to happen. She might be persuaded to resign of course, but I cannot see any forcing her out at least until the year has passed, and in any case I think it would be a big mistake (as was forcing out Boris, which I think is now obvious). |
What wa sit you liked best about Boris? The racism, the homophobia, the corruption, the incompetence, the lying or the criminality? [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 15:53]
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:53 - Oct 19 with 1155 views | BlueBadger |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:11 - Oct 19 by StokieBlue |
Removing a PM because he's a liar who has contempt for the country and doesn't think the rules apply to him is not a mistake. The "something worse" argument is annoying.
The issue here is that the Tory membership can't be trusted and shouldn't be allowed to select a PM for the entire country. Direct your ire at the ridiculousness of that process and the ridiculousness of their views.
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Mate, he voted for this.
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:57 - Oct 19 with 1126 views | StokieBlue |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:53 - Oct 19 by BlueBadger |
Mate, he voted for this.
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Ooofff.
Going to be hard to recover from that haymaker.
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:58 - Oct 19 with 1119 views | BlueBadger |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:25 - Oct 19 by baxterbasics |
Fell of a cliff = about 5 points behind Labour.
They are now 30 points behind.
Most of those 60 resignees were quite comfortable with his fitness right up until headlines and polls started to turn. |
You lot had an 80 seat majority. That's the the politics equivalent of losing 5-4 when you were 4-0 up on 60 minutes after conceding 5 OGs.
In all fairness, that's not 'fall off a cliff', that's 'publicly shat yourself', though. [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 15:59]
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 16:02 - Oct 19 with 1101 views | BlueBadger |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:57 - Oct 19 by StokieBlue |
Ooofff.
Going to be hard to recover from that haymaker.
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To be fair, there's not many blokes out there with the stones to look his fellow man in the eye whilst sh1tting himself in public. [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 16:04]
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 16:07 - Oct 19 with 1083 views | Oldsmoker |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 14:11 - Oct 19 by StokieBlue |
Removing a PM because he's a liar who has contempt for the country and doesn't think the rules apply to him is not a mistake. The "something worse" argument is annoying.
The issue here is that the Tory membership can't be trusted and shouldn't be allowed to select a PM for the entire country. Direct your ire at the ridiculousness of that process and the ridiculousness of their views.
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I see you're hiding behind a new avatar - I'll let that pass.
The Prime minister is the person who has the support of a majority of MP's.
That's the bar you have to get above.
"No, I haven't got a majority of MP's who support me but I have a note from the membership." doesn't wash.
I don't think the membership should be involved in Tory or Labour selection processes for PM. That way lies madness.
You end up with Truss and Corbyn if they are involved. |  |
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| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 16:07 - Oct 19 with 1082 views | bungaytractor |
| One of the PMs Special Advisers has been suspended on 15:49 - Oct 19 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Go on then, but make it briefs. |
Well ive forgot what it was now | | | |
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