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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time 16:06 - Dec 17 with 2468 viewsIllinoisblue

Is what we can expect from Town TV, I want Brenner and Mick back. He’s got Danny Haynes sitting alongside him ffs, chat to him about Ipswich or the World Cup. Or something. I have twitter, I don’t need or want somebody to read tweets for me

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 16:08 - Dec 17 with 2439 viewsNthsuffolkblue

They weren't genuine Tweets but just an excuse to try to make their advertising sound less obvious.

EDIT: they have started doing the same in the Test match commentary, trying to make it sound like they are just talking about the crowd.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 16:13 - Dec 17 with 2408 viewsBent_double

Terrible, wasn't it. I've just got audio, and he went quiet for about 10 seconds in the first half - I had to check the app was still working.

BBC Suffolk was still working online last week for the Posh match, alas, not this week.

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:00 - Dec 17 with 2301 viewsSharkey

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 16:08 - Dec 17 by Nthsuffolkblue

They weren't genuine Tweets but just an excuse to try to make their advertising sound less obvious.

EDIT: they have started doing the same in the Test match commentary, trying to make it sound like they are just talking about the crowd.
[Post edited 17 Dec 2022 16:10]


I haven't been listening to this. How does it work? what are they plugging?
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:12 - Dec 17 with 2268 viewsbournemouthblue

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 16:08 - Dec 17 by Nthsuffolkblue

They weren't genuine Tweets but just an excuse to try to make their advertising sound less obvious.

EDIT: they have started doing the same in the Test match commentary, trying to make it sound like they are just talking about the crowd.
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Thanks to x watching from a far flung location

Given the use of VPN's, the locations are probably quite realistic

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:19 - Dec 17 with 2247 viewsLankHenners

It's not a great quality product I have to say. Usually listen to RS for the away games but obviously had iFollow to watch today. Don't want to be mean but I just don't rate the commentator in general. Maybe a little bit is being so used to Brenner for years but his delivery just seems a bit forced (and a bit cringey at times) and is determined to say every over-used cliche in the book to describe things.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:21 - Dec 17 with 2226 viewsRyorry

Not to mention starting to talk about the game when the ht whistle goes, only for the plug to be ripped out in mid-sentence after 30 seconds, & ads inserted instead

Why even bother letting the pundits start chatting if they know that's what's going to happen.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:26 - Dec 17 with 2205 viewsNthsuffolkblue

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:00 - Dec 17 by Sharkey

I haven't been listening to this. How does it work? what are they plugging?


The one I heard was for Baileys ... the Christmas tipple (or some catch phrase along those lines). I didn't bother paying attention to most of them.

At the cricket, they have an area for the fans to do something and the commentators then comment on it. Ones that spring to mind are:

A giant washing machine powered by some chap on a bike advertising some washing powder brand.

Some tea the fans sat drinking advertising the brand of tea (some Asian brand I believe).

Eating ice cream and drinking cold drinks and the commentators make some comment about Sensodyne and "because life's too short for sensitive teeth".

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:29 - Dec 17 with 2182 viewsTexacoCup

....and the camera work was appalling too
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:58 - Dec 17 with 2131 viewsSharkey

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:26 - Dec 17 by Nthsuffolkblue

The one I heard was for Baileys ... the Christmas tipple (or some catch phrase along those lines). I didn't bother paying attention to most of them.

At the cricket, they have an area for the fans to do something and the commentators then comment on it. Ones that spring to mind are:

A giant washing machine powered by some chap on a bike advertising some washing powder brand.

Some tea the fans sat drinking advertising the brand of tea (some Asian brand I believe).

Eating ice cream and drinking cold drinks and the commentators make some comment about Sensodyne and "because life's too short for sensitive teeth".


I've seen the cricket ones. Feels like advertising from the 1920s!
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:01 - Dec 17 with 2122 viewsDublinBlue84

I don't think he did have Danny Haynes sitting alongside him for the half time though.....

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:02 - Dec 17 with 2111 viewsHipsterectomy

I understand it's difficult to get a regular co-commentator (esp for away games), but it's always a bit awkward with having new ones on. Danny Haynes obviously didn't get a lot of the main guy's humour and there were awkward moments where the other didn't know how to respond.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:03 - Dec 17 with 2110 viewsDublinBlue84

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:21 - Dec 17 by Ryorry

Not to mention starting to talk about the game when the ht whistle goes, only for the plug to be ripped out in mid-sentence after 30 seconds, & ads inserted instead

Why even bother letting the pundits start chatting if they know that's what's going to happen.
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The plug only gets pulled on the video feed, on the audio feed it doesn't.

There's nothing Wheeler or the club can do about that as it's set up like that by the EFL.

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:03 - Dec 17 with 2104 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Brenner and Mick aren’t perfect but they are 10x better than the ifollow commentary.

I find that new guy a bit cringe and rehearsed. Brenner gets stick for his reactions but I just think he genuinely cares. Far better imo.

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:04 - Dec 17 with 2100 viewsRyorry

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:03 - Dec 17 by DublinBlue84

The plug only gets pulled on the video feed, on the audio feed it doesn't.

There's nothing Wheeler or the club can do about that as it's set up like that by the EFL.


Ah, thanks for the tip.

Silly EFL. Typical.

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 19:32 - Dec 17 with 1962 viewsportmanking

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:03 - Dec 17 by TRUE_BLUE123

Brenner and Mick aren’t perfect but they are 10x better than the ifollow commentary.

I find that new guy a bit cringe and rehearsed. Brenner gets stick for his reactions but I just think he genuinely cares. Far better imo.


100% this.

The new guy is more like Hospital Radio than BBC Suffolk.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 20:00 - Dec 17 with 1908 viewsbournemouthblue

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:01 - Dec 17 by DublinBlue84

I don't think he did have Danny Haynes sitting alongside him for the half time though.....


Sounded like Danny went to get a pie, you could hear a wrapper rattling at the start of the second half

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 20:39 - Dec 17 with 1829 viewsclive_baker

Couldn’t believe how annoying he was. Verbal diarrhoea, I had to mute him at one point for a break. Found it also so biased towards us in such a tedious way. Very little balance and to keep referring to their goal as a ‘moment of individual brilliance’ and not once mention how weak it was defensively was a bit odd. My favourite bit was when Edmundson was on the ball while he mentioned there had been no changes at the break. And Haynes saying town were in a good position while 1-0 down with 12 minutes left.

I’m sure it’s a hard job and it’s all too easy to criticise but it did grate on me no end.

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 23:45 - Dec 17 with 1660 viewsLankHenners

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 20:39 - Dec 17 by clive_baker

Couldn’t believe how annoying he was. Verbal diarrhoea, I had to mute him at one point for a break. Found it also so biased towards us in such a tedious way. Very little balance and to keep referring to their goal as a ‘moment of individual brilliance’ and not once mention how weak it was defensively was a bit odd. My favourite bit was when Edmundson was on the ball while he mentioned there had been no changes at the break. And Haynes saying town were in a good position while 1-0 down with 12 minutes left.

I’m sure it’s a hard job and it’s all too easy to criticise but it did grate on me no end.


It seems to be the way of 'in-house' commentary set-ups that the comms are deliberately biased towards their club, presumably to help create a sense of patriotism within the fanbase. There was someone on Twitter last season who posted a compilation of clips from someone like Fulham where the comms were hilariously one-sided, the guy was screaming for a card every time a player was fouled, calling every goal conceded 'lucky', giving eulogies about players after scoring a tap-in etc. which was quite funny for a neutral but having had a taste of it myself it doesn't sit too well.

I turned the sound off watching the Port Vale game as I couldn't stick it - as you say easy to pick holes in something when it's not you doing it and it seems like the guy's nice and enthusiastic which is good but as I said above just seems like everything's forced and it comes across a bit cringey.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 09:27 - Dec 18 with 1548 viewsDJR

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 18:03 - Dec 17 by TRUE_BLUE123

Brenner and Mick aren’t perfect but they are 10x better than the ifollow commentary.

I find that new guy a bit cringe and rehearsed. Brenner gets stick for his reactions but I just think he genuinely cares. Far better imo.


The thing is that it's not just Brenner and Mick but the whole Radio Suffolk package including the excellent Graham Mac who does the pre-match, half-time and post-match sections.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 10:23 - Dec 18 with 1499 viewsclive_baker

Reflecting on this a bit more I think it’s particularly hard as he’s essentially commenting on audio and visual at the same time. Audio has to be more descriptive, where the ball is etc and who has it. Visual doesn’t need that, it would be better to ask Haynes more questions about him, where he’s living, favourite Town goal, anything. Or just wider discussion. But there’s not really time for it when he has to cater to an audio audience. When you’re watching it you don’t need to be told that the ball is on the half way line.

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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 10:34 - Dec 18 with 1486 viewsDJR

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 10:23 - Dec 18 by clive_baker

Reflecting on this a bit more I think it’s particularly hard as he’s essentially commenting on audio and visual at the same time. Audio has to be more descriptive, where the ball is etc and who has it. Visual doesn’t need that, it would be better to ask Haynes more questions about him, where he’s living, favourite Town goal, anything. Or just wider discussion. But there’s not really time for it when he has to cater to an audio audience. When you’re watching it you don’t need to be told that the ball is on the half way line.


The issue though is that audio coverage is in theory the only thing available for those in the UK, or those anywhere who maybe can't afford the cost of the video package. In any event, it seemed to me to work perfectly for the video when we had the Radio Suffolk commentary.

The top and bottom of it is that they seem to want to monetise the whole thing, but they are providing a shoddy product, even for those watching on video, and are really short-changing those who listen on audio.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 12:41 - Dec 18 with 1385 viewsRyorry

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 10:23 - Dec 18 by clive_baker

Reflecting on this a bit more I think it’s particularly hard as he’s essentially commenting on audio and visual at the same time. Audio has to be more descriptive, where the ball is etc and who has it. Visual doesn’t need that, it would be better to ask Haynes more questions about him, where he’s living, favourite Town goal, anything. Or just wider discussion. But there’s not really time for it when he has to cater to an audio audience. When you’re watching it you don’t need to be told that the ball is on the half way line.


Didn't realise the video feed was still doubling as the audio feed - that's ridiculous - and cheapskating.

It's not as though thousands of fans aren't paying enough for them to have two crews - I paid around £45 for the season audio pass, and still have to pay £10 on top for video access to eaach game, without any discount.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 13:19 - Dec 18 with 1340 viewsMark

If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 23:45 - Dec 17 by LankHenners

It seems to be the way of 'in-house' commentary set-ups that the comms are deliberately biased towards their club, presumably to help create a sense of patriotism within the fanbase. There was someone on Twitter last season who posted a compilation of clips from someone like Fulham where the comms were hilariously one-sided, the guy was screaming for a card every time a player was fouled, calling every goal conceded 'lucky', giving eulogies about players after scoring a tap-in etc. which was quite funny for a neutral but having had a taste of it myself it doesn't sit too well.

I turned the sound off watching the Port Vale game as I couldn't stick it - as you say easy to pick holes in something when it's not you doing it and it seems like the guy's nice and enthusiastic which is good but as I said above just seems like everything's forced and it comes across a bit cringey.


I think the club should return to BBC Radio Suffolk commentary for Town TV. Give us independent analysis which is fair and balanced, and with a knowledgeable team who are allowed to critise where necessary. The fans deserve that if paying £10 a time.
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If Wheeler reading out tweets at half time on 17:01 - Dec 18 with 1217 views2-5-7

Agree stated poor and has not got better. Audio only is bad
Plus a bit too much Norwich on his showreel for my liking......

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