| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? 18:58 - Jan 21 with 9865 views | DublinBlue84 |
If a ref is calling the players and managers over at 74 minutes when there is this 75 minute rule and then essentially saying it's n ow too late, the result has to stand, that in itself for me is not right because you'd have to ask why he has waited until 74 minutes to do that when he could have done so earlier.
But if it is like Phil says, that the rules do not state that at all, why did the referee state that it did? He's a vastly experienced referee, you'd expect him to know the rules of the game, did he get mixed up between rules of another competition? I've never heard of it before.
If there is no rule and the referee has simply said something that is not true, that has led to managers making a decision that they otherwise would not have, then it's hard to see how the referee cannot be subject to anything other than an investigation. [Post edited 21 Jan 2023 19:01]
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:02 - Jan 21 with 9806 views | Ryorry |
Inexcusable really, considering the game actually started in thick fog - he could at least have looked it up beforehand. |  |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:02 - Jan 21 with 9808 views | Trequartista |
The itfc interview with McKenna appears to be later than his other press interviews because he mentions that the club secretary has told him the club are not aware of that rule.
As far as i'm aware, its not a law of the game, it is down to the administrators of each competition (not sure if that is the FA or the EFL). The referee is a former fifa referee who has switched from refereeing in the Scottish Premier League to the EFL. Maybe it was an SPL rule. |  |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:06 - Jan 21 with 9756 views | norfsufblue |
We don't deserve to benefit from itreallyit but it's an utter farce that the match officials can make such basic error, imagine the h& s issues if that decision was taken on a frozen pitch and a player ended up with a career ending injury! |  | | |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:07 - Jan 21 with 9715 views | NeedhamChris |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:02 - Jan 21 by Ryorry |
Inexcusable really, considering the game actually started in thick fog - he could at least have looked it up beforehand. |
So could McKenna | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:09 - Jan 21 with 9708 views | Pinewoodblue |
Pretty sure there is no such rule in the EFL, FA say rules of the league aplies, and the referee has got it totally wrong.
Gamblers amongst you will correct me if I'm wrong but bookies will pay out on an abandoned game if it is abandoned after the 70th minute. |  |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:10 - Jan 21 with 9682 views | Ryorry |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:07 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
So could McKenna |
KM's clearly not the referee in charge of the game & responsible for making such decisions. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:12 - Jan 21 with 9642 views | J2BLUE |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:07 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
So could McKenna |
If he had and he had told the ref that's not a rule do you think the ref would have listened? They don't usually take advice from managers on the rules of the game. |  |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:15 - Jan 21 with 9598 views | NeedhamChris |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:12 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE |
If he had and he had told the ref that's not a rule do you think the ref would have listened? They don't usually take advice from managers on the rules of the game. |
The referee doesn't decide if the result stands. The EFL do. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:21 - Jan 21 with 9502 views | J2BLUE |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:15 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
The referee doesn't decide if the result stands. The EFL do. |
Yes but the ref wouldn't have taken the teams off if he believed that rule to be in force. Even if the ref was wrong, if we just walked off we have no idea what the reaction would be.
This is purely on the ref. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:26 - Jan 21 with 9455 views | TexacoCup |
So did all 4 officials not know the rule? (if there is a rule!) |  | | |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:27 - Jan 21 with 9432 views | NeedhamChris |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:21 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE |
Yes but the ref wouldn't have taken the teams off if he believed that rule to be in force. Even if the ref was wrong, if we just walked off we have no idea what the reaction would be.
This is purely on the ref. |
Oh it's not McKenna's fault, but a bit more awareness would have helped.
I don't read it like you have - McKenna's interview says the ref was fine to call it off but told them the result would stand. Because they didn't want that result to stand they played on.
Had they known the result wouldn't have stood, they wouldn't have played on. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:38 - Jan 21 with 9336 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:27 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
Oh it's not McKenna's fault, but a bit more awareness would have helped.
I don't read it like you have - McKenna's interview says the ref was fine to call it off but told them the result would stand. Because they didn't want that result to stand they played on.
Had they known the result wouldn't have stood, they wouldn't have played on. |
The referee offered abandonment to both Managers and they agreed. He then made up a new rule and said if we abandon the result stands, Managers then agreed to play on.
The game should be replayed. The club should make a formal application to the League to re-order the match to be played. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:42 - Jan 21 with 9287 views | LankHenners |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:27 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
Oh it's not McKenna's fault, but a bit more awareness would have helped.
I don't read it like you have - McKenna's interview says the ref was fine to call it off but told them the result would stand. Because they didn't want that result to stand they played on.
Had they known the result wouldn't have stood, they wouldn't have played on. |
There's no real reason for McKenna or Robinson to know that, they've got enough to think about without an encyclopaedic knowledge of the rules of the game in their heads.
Seems a bit of a desperate attempt to find another angle to be negative from to me. |  |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:46 - Jan 21 with 9236 views | NeedhamChris |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:42 - Jan 21 by LankHenners |
There's no real reason for McKenna or Robinson to know that, they've got enough to think about without an encyclopaedic knowledge of the rules of the game in their heads.
Seems a bit of a desperate attempt to find another angle to be negative from to me. |
That's fair and I don't really expect them to know that because they researched it themselves! It's just annoying.
I would expect a club secretary to check it though given the obviously increased likelihood of it happening. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:53 - Jan 21 with 9174 views | LankHenners |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:46 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
That's fair and I don't really expect them to know that because they researched it themselves! It's just annoying.
I would expect a club secretary to check it though given the obviously increased likelihood of it happening. |
Why? The refs are in charge of the laws and are trusted to act on them as appropriate. Seems a bit of a blunder from the ref today to a) get it wrong and b) not warn the managers about it before they had a chance to do anything about the situation. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 20:38 - Jan 21 with 8986 views | longtimefan |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:15 - Jan 21 by NeedhamChris |
The referee doesn't decide if the result stands. The EFL do. |
Maybe that’s the rule in Scotland? | | | |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 20:49 - Jan 21 with 8895 views | greyhound |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 19:53 - Jan 21 by LankHenners |
Why? The refs are in charge of the laws and are trusted to act on them as appropriate. Seems a bit of a blunder from the ref today to a) get it wrong and b) not warn the managers about it before they had a chance to do anything about the situation. |
On 74 minutes aren't we technically in the 75th minute of the game however | | | |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 20:56 - Jan 21 with 8855 views | tractorshark |
I’m sorry but the ref, the linesmen and the fourth official should know the rules as should our management team or backroom staff.
We can blame the ref but it should also be a lesson learnt by the club.
If the 75 minute rule doesn’t exist, then we should have been questioning it.
But you couldn’t see the far side of the pitch way before that, so why weren’t we putting pressure on the ref to abandon the match if we thought it was unplayable.
Why weren’t the club staff checking the rulebook at half time?
We have to take a degree of responsibility for that decision even if we don’t like to admit it. | | | |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 21:35 - Jan 21 with 8690 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 20:56 - Jan 21 by tractorshark |
I’m sorry but the ref, the linesmen and the fourth official should know the rules as should our management team or backroom staff.
We can blame the ref but it should also be a lesson learnt by the club.
If the 75 minute rule doesn’t exist, then we should have been questioning it.
But you couldn’t see the far side of the pitch way before that, so why weren’t we putting pressure on the ref to abandon the match if we thought it was unplayable.
Why weren’t the club staff checking the rulebook at half time?
We have to take a degree of responsibility for that decision even if we don’t like to admit it. |
Five hours after the match ended and not once person has been able to post a link to the 75 minute rule. | |
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 21:46 - Jan 21 with 8590 views | tractorshark |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 21:35 - Jan 21 by Pinewoodblue |
Five hours after the match ended and not once person has been able to post a link to the 75 minute rule. |
You’re right, and that sums it up.
If we don’t know, the management don’t know, the club don’t know and the ref supposedly doesn’t know, then surely we should have been seeking clarification if not during the match, then afterwards.
Not that it will be replayed now. If we’d scored the winner, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. | | | |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 22:15 - Jan 21 with 8466 views | Sam1819 |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 21:46 - Jan 21 by tractorshark |
You’re right, and that sums it up.
If we don’t know, the management don’t know, the club don’t know and the ref supposedly doesn’t know, then surely we should have been seeking clarification if not during the match, then afterwards.
Not that it will be replayed now. If we’d scored the winner, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. |
As far as I’m aware there is no 75 minute rule . The rule is Rule 7- link below
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11
The normal rule is that whenever the abandonment happens the game is replayed unless the governing board determines otherwise . That only tends to happen if the game is abandoned due to the conduct of one or both sides or fan interference eg a pitch invasion and neither club is prejudiced.
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| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 22:52 - Jan 21 with 8339 views | DublinBlue84 |
| Serious questions about this so called 75 minute rule? on 22:15 - Jan 21 by Sam1819 |
As far as I’m aware there is no 75 minute rule . The rule is Rule 7- link below
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11
The normal rule is that whenever the abandonment happens the game is replayed unless the governing board determines otherwise . That only tends to happen if the game is abandoned due to the conduct of one or both sides or fan interference eg a pitch invasion and neither club is prejudiced.
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On the face of it, it looks like the referee has misled the two teams and their managers into making a decision that they otherwise would not have made.
Imagine what would have happened if a player got seriously injured in the last 15 minutes because the teams played on based on a referee enforcing a seemingly non existent rule.
Really this needs a full PGMOL investigation. | |
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