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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 13:15 - Mar 22 with 1134 viewsPlums

So we now have have an American backed right wing political organisation advising people who are dissenting voices to leave the country?
To use somebody or other's well worn catchphrase when exactly do we 'Take Back Control'?


https://hopenothate.org.uk/2019/02/05/everything-need-know-launch-turning-point-

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:27 - Mar 22 with 1057 viewsJ2BLUE

I do think there is a lesson there.

Choose your language carefully. Don't give them any free way out. We know it's fake outrage, they know it's fake outrage but it serves a purpose.

Fully support Lineker's right to tweet what he wants and although his tweet was factually accurate it just gives them a way out. Instead of talking about the policy and how horrible it is they got to blow up the language used and focus on that. Which then gets their supporters onside because they compare 2023 UK with peak Nazi Germany forgetting there was a path to that.

Sadly I don't think choosing language carefully will catch on. Not in a world where so many people are desperate for their next viral tweet. There'll always be some all too willing to walk into the trap. It's like the next election. Twitter will light up with people attacking anyone who votes Tory and telling them how they are thick racists instead of explaining how their lives would be better without the Tories in government. It's very tempting to just go on the attack but why give them the way out?

I always think of this:

Like many internet quotes, there's a strong chance she never said any such thing but I think there's a lesson in those words regardless of who said it.

Truly impaired.
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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:33 - Mar 22 with 1036 viewsPlums

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:27 - Mar 22 by J2BLUE

I do think there is a lesson there.

Choose your language carefully. Don't give them any free way out. We know it's fake outrage, they know it's fake outrage but it serves a purpose.

Fully support Lineker's right to tweet what he wants and although his tweet was factually accurate it just gives them a way out. Instead of talking about the policy and how horrible it is they got to blow up the language used and focus on that. Which then gets their supporters onside because they compare 2023 UK with peak Nazi Germany forgetting there was a path to that.

Sadly I don't think choosing language carefully will catch on. Not in a world where so many people are desperate for their next viral tweet. There'll always be some all too willing to walk into the trap. It's like the next election. Twitter will light up with people attacking anyone who votes Tory and telling them how they are thick racists instead of explaining how their lives would be better without the Tories in government. It's very tempting to just go on the attack but why give them the way out?

I always think of this:

Like many internet quotes, there's a strong chance she never said any such thing but I think there's a lesson in those words regardless of who said it.


That's a very good point. I'm partly annoyed at myself for becoming part of the problem by:
a) being triggered by it
b) sharing it as it helps with their message

It's also useless arguing against it online because nobody ever wins an online row. I might just delete Twitter and save myself the worry and concern!

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:37 - Mar 22 with 1015 viewsEwan_Oozami

Maybe compare it to 1920s Italy instead?...

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:39 - Mar 22 with 1007 viewsPlums

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:37 - Mar 22 by Ewan_Oozami

Maybe compare it to 1920s Italy instead?...


I found this very instructive:
'What is a Fascist'

https://podfollow.com/dan-snows-history-hit/episode/2e1ac5f1916caf9c259db9e62ad7

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:39 - Mar 22 with 1009 viewsBlueBadger

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:37 - Mar 22 by Ewan_Oozami

Maybe compare it to 1920s Italy instead?...


True enough. Like Mussolini's lot, Rishi's gang of shysters and bigots can't make the trains run on time, either.
[Post edited 22 Mar 2023 13:40]

I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:01 - Mar 22 with 948 viewsBlueschev

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:27 - Mar 22 by J2BLUE

I do think there is a lesson there.

Choose your language carefully. Don't give them any free way out. We know it's fake outrage, they know it's fake outrage but it serves a purpose.

Fully support Lineker's right to tweet what he wants and although his tweet was factually accurate it just gives them a way out. Instead of talking about the policy and how horrible it is they got to blow up the language used and focus on that. Which then gets their supporters onside because they compare 2023 UK with peak Nazi Germany forgetting there was a path to that.

Sadly I don't think choosing language carefully will catch on. Not in a world where so many people are desperate for their next viral tweet. There'll always be some all too willing to walk into the trap. It's like the next election. Twitter will light up with people attacking anyone who votes Tory and telling them how they are thick racists instead of explaining how their lives would be better without the Tories in government. It's very tempting to just go on the attack but why give them the way out?

I always think of this:

Like many internet quotes, there's a strong chance she never said any such thing but I think there's a lesson in those words regardless of who said it.


I wouldn't be too keen to share the wisdom of Mother Theresa, she was a vile human being.
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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:05 - Mar 22 with 928 viewsgiant_stow

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:01 - Mar 22 by Blueschev

I wouldn't be too keen to share the wisdom of Mother Theresa, she was a vile human being.


I've heard this in passing elsewhere, but how so if you don;t mind?

Edit: I realised I could go and Google it. Apologies
[Post edited 22 Mar 2023 14:18]

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:06 - Mar 22 with 916 viewsJ2BLUE

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:01 - Mar 22 by Blueschev

I wouldn't be too keen to share the wisdom of Mother Theresa, she was a vile human being.


As I said, no idea if she said that or whether it's completely made up like a lot of these quote memes but the words are a good lesson IMO. Hardly sharing the wisdom of someone.

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:18 - Mar 22 with 837 viewsKropotkin123

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:05 - Mar 22 by giant_stow

I've heard this in passing elsewhere, but how so if you don;t mind?

Edit: I realised I could go and Google it. Apologies
[Post edited 22 Mar 2023 14:18]


I haven't fact-check each part of the story, but this (the first that came up in my search results) is the general gist: https://www.vice.com/en/article/gvzebx/mother-teresa-was-kind-of-a-heartless-bit

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:20 - Mar 22 with 815 viewsgiant_stow

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:18 - Mar 22 by Kropotkin123

I haven't fact-check each part of the story, but this (the first that came up in my search results) is the general gist: https://www.vice.com/en/article/gvzebx/mother-teresa-was-kind-of-a-heartless-bit


Thanks Mr- a title which stopped me in my tracks so will read now!

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:25 - Mar 22 with 797 viewsGeoffSentence

Would be a darn sight easier if we had freedom of movement with our near neighbours.

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:31 - Mar 22 with 762 viewsGuthrum

The nazis in Germany initially encouraged emigration of those they considered undesireables. Until the point they started killing them instead.

Quite apart from the fact that the Government has no mandate for turning the country into 1930s Germany and until they face the country in a General Election with that in the manifesto, they have no right to do so, or to tell those who object to leave.

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:31 - Mar 22 with 756 viewsBlueBadger

Isn't this what they said to German nationals who happened to be Jewish in the 1930's?

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 15:08 - Mar 22 with 681 viewsSteve_M

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 14:05 - Mar 22 by giant_stow

I've heard this in passing elsewhere, but how so if you don;t mind?

Edit: I realised I could go and Google it. Apologies
[Post edited 22 Mar 2023 14:18]


The decent Hitchens brother wrote much on her:

https://christopherhitchens.net/mother-teresa

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Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 15:19 - Mar 22 with 663 viewslowhouseblue

Through the Looking Glass Part 345848 on 13:39 - Mar 22 by Plums

I found this very instructive:
'What is a Fascist'

https://podfollow.com/dan-snows-history-hit/episode/2e1ac5f1916caf9c259db9e62ad7


great pod cast - thank you.
puts that all to bed at last.
"some adjectives have a therapeutic value." indeed.

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