| NHS recruitment plan 14:42 - Jun 30 with 1617 views | noggin |
Just heard they are planning to reduce the time it takes to train doctors and nurses. Sounds reassuring. |  |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 15:27 - Jun 30 with 1557 views | homer_123 |
Given the amount of people who no longer trust 'experts', 'scientists' etc. I can't really see an issue. |  |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 15:45 - Jun 30 with 1514 views | ElephantintheRoom |
A bit of intensive education and experience might be a good thing. Vets can treat every animal on earth (and people) after five years. The same time that doctors need to treat one species that can actually tell you what’s wrong with them - and dentists need to treat 32 teeth. |  |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 15:46 - Jun 30 with 1519 views | J2BLUE |
The Tories love things like this. Help the economy by raising speed limits and letting people park on double yellows for 15 minutes to go shopping. They have had some bat sh1t proposals. |  |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 16:01 - Jun 30 with 1482 views | DJR |
| NHS recruitment plan on 15:27 - Jun 30 by homer_123 |
Given the amount of people who no longer trust 'experts', 'scientists' etc. I can't really see an issue. |
Wouldn't the best way be to train everyone to be a doctor, so that they can look after themselves and we can get rid of hospitals? |  | | |
| NHS recruitment plan on 16:06 - Jun 30 with 1467 views | noggin |
| NHS recruitment plan on 16:01 - Jun 30 by DJR |
Wouldn't the best way be to train everyone to be a doctor, so that they can look after themselves and we can get rid of hospitals? |
But what about the 50 new hospitals they just built? | |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 16:24 - Jun 30 with 1416 views | BLUEGOLD |
| NHS recruitment plan on 16:06 - Jun 30 by noggin |
But what about the 50 new hospitals they just built? |
Using their definition of new, i have a new house as i decorated the lounge last week.
A bunch of incompetent crooks who only appeal to racists, simpletons and corrupt arseh0les. | | | |
| NHS recruitment plan on 17:19 - Jun 30 with 1367 views | GeoffSentence |
| NHS recruitment plan on 16:01 - Jun 30 by DJR |
Wouldn't the best way be to train everyone to be a doctor, so that they can look after themselves and we can get rid of hospitals? |
Too right. Expecting doctors and nurses to look after people is the very epitome of the nanny state. |  |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 18:12 - Jun 30 with 1307 views | factual_blue |
As it's a fifteen year plan, this shower won't be in charge. They can promise what they like in the knowledge they won't be around to get the blame for the initiative failing. |  |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 18:57 - Jun 30 with 1284 views | homer_123 |
| NHS recruitment plan on 18:12 - Jun 30 by factual_blue |
As it's a fifteen year plan, this shower won't be in charge. They can promise what they like in the knowledge they won't be around to get the blame for the initiative failing. |
Side bet Facters - this lot will be in power in 15 yrs. | |
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| NHS recruitment plan on 19:18 - Jun 30 with 1257 views | HARRY10 |
Given no other country is planning to reduce the amount of time needed, I wonder why the Tories are proposing this.
And where will it leave those trained in the UK who might want to practice abroad ?
I suspect this will go the way of John Major's cones hotline or Thatchers football membership scheme.
All very much on the lines of Alan Partridges monkey tennis, and Youth Hosteling with Chris Eubank.
Futile attempts to deal with the inevitable. | | | |
| NHS recruitment plan on 00:29 - Jul 1 with 1179 views | DJR |
| NHS recruitment plan on 16:01 - Jun 30 by DJR |
Wouldn't the best way be to train everyone to be a doctor, so that they can look after themselves and we can get rid of hospitals? |
And we could train people to be care workers, so they could look after themselves rather than moving into a care home. | | | |
| NHS recruitment plan on 01:35 - Jul 1 with 1154 views | jontysnut |
| NHS recruitment plan on 19:18 - Jun 30 by HARRY10 |
Given no other country is planning to reduce the amount of time needed, I wonder why the Tories are proposing this.
And where will it leave those trained in the UK who might want to practice abroad ?
I suspect this will go the way of John Major's cones hotline or Thatchers football membership scheme.
All very much on the lines of Alan Partridges monkey tennis, and Youth Hosteling with Chris Eubank.
Futile attempts to deal with the inevitable. |
It might be possible to condense the hours spent at medical school into 4 years but the real problem is that there aren't enough clinical academic staff to deal with expansion of numbers and doctors who supervise postgraduate students as they progress through specialty training are leaving in droves. It's like trying to fill a leaking bucket. Telling the profession that you're going to ignore the independent pay review body won't help with retention. To borrow a footballing term the government has lost the dressing room. |  | | |
| NHS recruitment plan on 10:18 - Jul 1 with 1051 views | DJR |
| NHS recruitment plan on 01:35 - Jul 1 by jontysnut |
It might be possible to condense the hours spent at medical school into 4 years but the real problem is that there aren't enough clinical academic staff to deal with expansion of numbers and doctors who supervise postgraduate students as they progress through specialty training are leaving in droves. It's like trying to fill a leaking bucket. Telling the profession that you're going to ignore the independent pay review body won't help with retention. To borrow a footballing term the government has lost the dressing room. |
The root of the problem with regard to staffing appears to be the lack of planning and short-sighted cuts to medical and nurse training in the early years of the coalition as part of austerity.
The following passage from the following article about the damage of austerity more generally indicates the problem.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/03/lost-decade-hidden-story-how-aus
"One service always in the public eye was the NHS. But its 2010 training cuts left it short of 100,000 nurses and doctors. Spending time with the chief executive of Ipswich hospital, we watched as he begged a senior nurse not to leave. Jenny (not her real name), one of his best, brightest and most dedicated nurses, had turned around his difficult chemotherapy ward, caring for seriously ill people feeling at their worst, where deaths of patients exacted a heavy emotional toll on staff. But, taking a deep breath, she told him: “I just can’t keep going.” She would join the nursing bank for occasional shifts, but her departure would add to the 41,000 nurse vacancies. Her team cried when she told them." | | | |
| NHS recruitment plan on 10:57 - Jul 1 with 1012 views | Churchman |
| NHS recruitment plan on 16:01 - Jun 30 by DJR |
Wouldn't the best way be to train everyone to be a doctor, so that they can look after themselves and we can get rid of hospitals? |
Why bother with any training? Plenty of stuff on the internet and most people have kitchen knives, Stanley knives, a mallet and a needle and thread. How hard can it be?
The government has ‘had enough of experts’ so let’s not waste money on training anybody for anything. Yep, should save a few pennies.
It’s pathetic. [Post edited 1 Jul 2023 10:58]
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