| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 12:31 - Sep 10 with 1904 views | BlueBadger |
Your occasional reminder about 'decent' Tories and sweetcorn here. |  |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 12:36 - Sep 10 with 1864 views | LeoMuff |
Sadly nothing not already known, system is broken |  |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 12:44 - Sep 10 with 1849 views | Swansea_Blue |
Andy Burnham said pretty much the same about his time down in Westminster. The place turns people into frauds. Sadly, we end up losing the ones like Stewart and Burnham and are mostly left with the self-obsessed and often talentless lickspittles (in cabinet roles anyway). |  |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 12:53 - Sep 10 with 1837 views | chicoazul |
When is TWTD going to learn. |  |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 13:07 - Sep 10 with 1803 views | ElephantintheRoom |
He’s got a book to sell |  |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 13:20 - Sep 10 with 1776 views | DJR |
| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 13:07 - Sep 10 by ElephantintheRoom |
He’s got a book to sell |
It wouldn't be a celebrity or political autobiography without a lot of misery to grab the headlines. [Post edited 10 Sep 2023 13:21]
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 14:21 - Sep 10 with 1678 views | HARRY10 |
So, to benefit from the misery they inflicted upon the rest of us, we are now to suffer the self-pitying whines of former Tory MPs trying to deny their part in the mess they made
"It weren't me, guv", "I was only obeying orders", "I didn't know what I was gettin' into", " it was him miss, not me"
Stewart joins the deluded Dorries and the deranged Truss, both already off the blocks. I have no doubt Hancock will be along sometime as he attempts to revive his, now, non-existant career in the media. No truer example of the "15 minutes of fame" thought.
Lesser mortals among this ragbag of incompetents, frauds and failures will no doubt parade their hurt and offer some form of penance in the way of good deeds.
"I was once a junior Tory minister inflicting suffering on the poor while lining my pockets through dodgy deals, but now I am .................pardon ?
Have I handed any of that money back ?
Can we end the interview now"
You might, in your earlier years, join the Tory Party because you like the uniform, the big parades and the way all societies ills are explained by it being the work of some malevolent force. You may begin by excusing some of the excesses. Necessary, you kid yourself. But at some point there comes a time when you either question what you have become involved in and are supporting, or whether you continue from thereon in. And that will depend on how much life has fcked you up, or how greedy you are - not mutually exclusive.
However, once a Tory, always a Tory, if you have gone that far. | | | |
| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 15:09 - Sep 10 with 1617 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 14:21 - Sep 10 by HARRY10 |
So, to benefit from the misery they inflicted upon the rest of us, we are now to suffer the self-pitying whines of former Tory MPs trying to deny their part in the mess they made
"It weren't me, guv", "I was only obeying orders", "I didn't know what I was gettin' into", " it was him miss, not me"
Stewart joins the deluded Dorries and the deranged Truss, both already off the blocks. I have no doubt Hancock will be along sometime as he attempts to revive his, now, non-existant career in the media. No truer example of the "15 minutes of fame" thought.
Lesser mortals among this ragbag of incompetents, frauds and failures will no doubt parade their hurt and offer some form of penance in the way of good deeds.
"I was once a junior Tory minister inflicting suffering on the poor while lining my pockets through dodgy deals, but now I am .................pardon ?
Have I handed any of that money back ?
Can we end the interview now"
You might, in your earlier years, join the Tory Party because you like the uniform, the big parades and the way all societies ills are explained by it being the work of some malevolent force. You may begin by excusing some of the excesses. Necessary, you kid yourself. But at some point there comes a time when you either question what you have become involved in and are supporting, or whether you continue from thereon in. And that will depend on how much life has fcked you up, or how greedy you are - not mutually exclusive.
However, once a Tory, always a Tory, if you have gone that far. |
It’s pretty much the norm isn’t it. I was going to mention Eustice as another one after he criticised the Oz trade deal (which he supported at the time). But it just smacks of trying to justify/excuse his own actions. He’s clearly not certainly turned into a moral crusader, as he’s taken on an advisory role with a wastewater company with a poor environmental record. Just been given the go ahead to set up an environmental consultancy too, which will no doubt be bagging a few juicy Govt contracts. They almost to a person look to extract as much out of the system as they can for themselves. | |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 16:08 - Sep 10 with 1563 views | thebooks |
Never trust a Tory. |  | | |
| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 17:04 - Sep 10 with 1487 views | DJR |
Given the attacks on lawyers, and savage cuts to things like legal aid and the courts, I rather doubt there are many lawyers these days who have a good word to say for the government. This is a very strange state of affairs because the law is probably the most upper middle class of all the professions, and many lawyers would be traditional Tories. [Post edited 10 Sep 2023 17:07]
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 18:54 - Sep 10 with 1376 views | BlueBadger |
| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 12:53 - Sep 10 by chicoazul |
When is TWTD going to learn. |
'There is no such thing as a decent Tory'?
Seems out of character for you, Chickers. | |
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| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 19:43 - Sep 10 with 1310 views | HARRY10 |
| Has this interview with Rory Stewart been covered on here? on 15:09 - Sep 10 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s pretty much the norm isn’t it. I was going to mention Eustice as another one after he criticised the Oz trade deal (which he supported at the time). But it just smacks of trying to justify/excuse his own actions. He’s clearly not certainly turned into a moral crusader, as he’s taken on an advisory role with a wastewater company with a poor environmental record. Just been given the go ahead to set up an environmental consultancy too, which will no doubt be bagging a few juicy Govt contracts. They almost to a person look to extract as much out of the system as they can for themselves. |
the sickerner is you know those who have risen to be councillors, MPs etc are going to be using that position to line their own pockets. That's what they are in the Tory party for. And boy have I met a huge ny=umber of them when working the 'rubber cgicken' circuit After dinner, lunch clu etc. A classic example of a diner would be the odious Tory in the EADT who was having a hissy fir as it turned out the government was fcking everything up.
the stuff I heard once they became ' lubricated'. Watching how the fiddled the chaririries. The idea was that at Xmas (or even other times) local businesses would called upon to dinate fifts (bottle of whiskey) etc for their Charity Auction. My tgought wa seach item would go for a far higher price, so the business and the diners were raising money for the charity. Oh no. Most stuff went for about a third of the price. And it seemed as if they already knew who was going to win the prize. Whether the amount all went to the charity is a not point, as there was something known as 'club money' whereby some was retained as a 'handling charge.
Of course in years gone by the local Rotary club etc held enormous sway over what happened in their town, and it could be thought these auctions were a kind of 'protection racket'. I am sure this still goes on, though the number of these functions is diminishing.
However, I have yet to see how the 'great unwashed.... the brexiteers, the red wallers and other sundry thickos benefit. Where is their 'divvy' ? Levelling up ? You have to be joking. How much is being wasted on the bidding process to win a grant for a local project.
Stuff that in any other country would be routine spending projects decided quietly by local politicians and officials. They would be funded by local taxes and borrowing, or met within a central block grant. Only in Britain do such petty projects have to be taken to London and their proponents queue up, cap in hand, waiting on the generosity and whim of some gracious ruler.
'the stupid person is often more dangerous than the evil one' | | | |
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