| What do we think of England call ups 15:01 - Oct 5 with 3491 views | FrimleyBlue |
Think it's disgusting he's ignored Davis tbh, but i'll it go this time.
But, Phillips and Henderson? Maguire.....
Also didn't Saka tear a hamstring the other night or something? |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:04 - Oct 5 with 2991 views | TresBonne |
Those three you mentioned, I am astonished at - especially Kalvin Phillips...
Saka needs protecting. The guy has played a ridiculous amount of football consecutively and he's still young - he needs a couple weeks break at a minimum, I hope he doesn't actually travel. |  | | |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:12 - Oct 5 with 2945 views | J2BLUE |
Out of interest, who would you have in over Maguire and Henderson? |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:14 - Oct 5 with 2931 views | Herbivore |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:12 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
Out of interest, who would you have in over Maguire and Henderson? |
Woolf for Maguire but not sure who gets in for Henderson, Chappers isn't a like for like swap. |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:15 - Oct 5 with 2918 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:12 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
Out of interest, who would you have in over Maguire and Henderson? |
Wolfenden and erm Hutchinson.
BTW, whilst I joke about Wolfenden.... Why couldn't a championship Defender go in place of a defender who's not even playing for his club.. NOT saying it would have to be wolfy btw.
On Henderson.. I don't know, but he's been so painful to watch for England in his recent appearances imo, it's time to let go. | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:20 - Oct 5 with 2881 views | wellsy700 |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:12 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
Out of interest, who would you have in over Maguire and Henderson? |
Dan Burn and James Ward Prowse |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:22 - Oct 5 with 2845 views | J2BLUE |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:20 - Oct 5 by wellsy700 |
Dan Burn and James Ward Prowse |
Decent suggestions | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:26 - Oct 5 with 2815 views | TractorCam |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:12 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
Out of interest, who would you have in over Maguire and Henderson? |
Ward-Prowse over Henderson or Phillips all day. |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:26 - Oct 5 with 2812 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:20 - Oct 5 by wellsy700 |
Dan Burn and James Ward Prowse |
Perfect suggestions. | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:28 - Oct 5 with 2802 views | dirtyboy |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:20 - Oct 5 by wellsy700 |
Dan Burn and James Ward Prowse |
JWP or Lewis Cook for Hendo.
I'd take Konsa instead of Maguire. |  | | |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:34 - Oct 5 with 2766 views | _clive_baker_ |
I get it with Maguire. Not so much for the Australia friendly but certainly the Italy qualifier. It's the last hurdle, win it and we're all but there. Maguire obviously isn't playing much for United but the bloke has 50+ England caps in some of the biggest games we've ever been in, vast experience and I can't recall too many times where he's let us down. I wouldn't just have him in the squad, I would still have him in the starting XI alongside Stones.
Henderson won't start but again he has experience on his side and is probably valuable in the squad in the short term for that reason. His days have to be numbered though after his career choice to go to Saudi, I can't take him seriously playing out there.
After this set of games (assuming we beat Italy) I would hope Southgate starts thinking ahead to next summer a bit more and perhaps gives the likes of JWP preference over Henderson. |  | | |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:49 - Oct 5 with 2681 views | rickw |
The England squad under Southgate seems very difficult to get into, but once you're in hard to get out of - even getting injured, not playing or moving to Saudi keeps you in!
I would have thought Burn had a chance with Shaw and Chilwell injured or maybe Longstaff, Watkins deserves the recall though |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:50 - Oct 5 with 2679 views | Kieran_Knows |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:34 - Oct 5 by _clive_baker_ |
I get it with Maguire. Not so much for the Australia friendly but certainly the Italy qualifier. It's the last hurdle, win it and we're all but there. Maguire obviously isn't playing much for United but the bloke has 50+ England caps in some of the biggest games we've ever been in, vast experience and I can't recall too many times where he's let us down. I wouldn't just have him in the squad, I would still have him in the starting XI alongside Stones.
Henderson won't start but again he has experience on his side and is probably valuable in the squad in the short term for that reason. His days have to be numbered though after his career choice to go to Saudi, I can't take him seriously playing out there.
After this set of games (assuming we beat Italy) I would hope Southgate starts thinking ahead to next summer a bit more and perhaps gives the likes of JWP preference over Henderson. |
I personally think its poor management from Southgate with regards to Maguire. Look, the criticism he has received has gone OTT, and he shouldn't be subject to that - and I also appreciate that generally, when he gets called up to England he plays well - but why not take the bloke out the firing line a little bit? I said this at the last international break as well, they're 2 games in which, do we really need him for them? I get the Italy game, but it's not a make or break game.
How on gods green earth Henderson and Phillips get in the squad, when JWP doesn't, that's just plain silly. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 15:56]
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:53 - Oct 5 with 2658 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:50 - Oct 5 by Kieran_Knows |
I personally think its poor management from Southgate with regards to Maguire. Look, the criticism he has received has gone OTT, and he shouldn't be subject to that - and I also appreciate that generally, when he gets called up to England he plays well - but why not take the bloke out the firing line a little bit? I said this at the last international break as well, they're 2 games in which, do we really need him for them? I get the Italy game, but it's not a make or break game.
How on gods green earth Henderson and Phillips get in the squad, when JWP doesn't, that's just plain silly. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 15:56]
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Thing is, you're asking for trouble by picking him.
Ridiculed by own club fans, not being picked by club.
selected by england despite no football, scores own goal and wonders why media picks it up.
When he plays, you are waiting more for a mistake than you are in expectation that he'll do a solid job, this is the problem, take him out of that circumstance, tell him to make better life choices rather than staying where the money is. | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:54 - Oct 5 with 2635 views | chicoazul |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:12 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
Out of interest, who would you have in over Maguire and Henderson? |
Players who play football now and then? |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:54 - Oct 5 with 2626 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:54 - Oct 5 by chicoazul |
Players who play football now and then? |
it'll never catch on | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:56 - Oct 5 with 2609 views | _clive_baker_ |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:50 - Oct 5 by Kieran_Knows |
I personally think its poor management from Southgate with regards to Maguire. Look, the criticism he has received has gone OTT, and he shouldn't be subject to that - and I also appreciate that generally, when he gets called up to England he plays well - but why not take the bloke out the firing line a little bit? I said this at the last international break as well, they're 2 games in which, do we really need him for them? I get the Italy game, but it's not a make or break game.
How on gods green earth Henderson and Phillips get in the squad, when JWP doesn't, that's just plain silly. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 15:56]
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I'm not sure that leaving him out of the England squad would make his life any easier, it probably just puts more scrutiny on him when he does come back. We're not blessed with proven options there, he's done well for England. If I'm Southgate I would keep calling him up and keep selecting him. The best thing Maguire can do is leave United, go to a mid table side where he's going to play and leave the Old Trafford circus behind him. Should've gone to West Ham in the summer. | | | |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:58 - Oct 5 with 2582 views | Deano69 |
All a bit Meh, and I am going to the ENG v AUS game..... |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:58 - Oct 5 with 2578 views | homer_123 |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:20 - Oct 5 by wellsy700 |
Dan Burn and James Ward Prowse |
Not sure what more Ward Prowse needs to do to get a call up. |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 15:59 - Oct 5 with 2571 views | J2BLUE |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:26 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Perfect suggestions. |
You could have made them...the fact you didn't suggests you couldn't really think of anyone at the time. | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 16:01 - Oct 5 with 2551 views | DarkHorse |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:04 - Oct 5 by TresBonne |
Those three you mentioned, I am astonished at - especially Kalvin Phillips...
Saka needs protecting. The guy has played a ridiculous amount of football consecutively and he's still young - he needs a couple weeks break at a minimum, I hope he doesn't actually travel. |
Henderson (in particular), Maguire, Phillips, Nketiah, Gallagher should be nowhere near.
re Saka, I know what you mean, but if Arsenal think he needs a rest they should stop picking him every game! England should pick whoever they want, there are only so many games to find a cohesive first 11. |  | | |
| What do we think of England call ups on 16:01 - Oct 5 with 2550 views | Kieran_Knows |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:56 - Oct 5 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm not sure that leaving him out of the England squad would make his life any easier, it probably just puts more scrutiny on him when he does come back. We're not blessed with proven options there, he's done well for England. If I'm Southgate I would keep calling him up and keep selecting him. The best thing Maguire can do is leave United, go to a mid table side where he's going to play and leave the Old Trafford circus behind him. Should've gone to West Ham in the summer. |
Do you not think? As others have mentioned in here, rightly or wrongly, anything he does (or doesn't do) in the England set up at the minute gets scrutinised - see Scotland own goal and the debacle from the media afterwards (which was wrong) - how can that be a good thing? Just let him have a couple of weeks off, it's not like he's desperately needed for these games.
Agree that he should've left in the summer though, that was a bit stupid of him not to go to West Ham to try and rebuild his career a little. | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 16:03 - Oct 5 with 2533 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:59 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
You could have made them...the fact you didn't suggests you couldn't really think of anyone at the time. |
That's correct. | |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 16:03 - Oct 5 with 2529 views | Illinoisblue |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:53 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Thing is, you're asking for trouble by picking him.
Ridiculed by own club fans, not being picked by club.
selected by england despite no football, scores own goal and wonders why media picks it up.
When he plays, you are waiting more for a mistake than you are in expectation that he'll do a solid job, this is the problem, take him out of that circumstance, tell him to make better life choices rather than staying where the money is. |
Well unless he retires from football completely it’ll always be an issue. He’s never/rarely let England down. Play him and make him captain would be my managerial decision. |  |
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| What do we think of England call ups on 16:35 - Oct 5 with 2431 views | Bluefields |
| What do we think of England call ups on 15:26 - Oct 5 by TractorCam |
Ward-Prowse over Henderson or Phillips all day. |
Curtis Jones for me in midfield |  | | |
| What do we think of England call ups on 16:43 - Oct 5 with 2403 views | SitfcB |
I’m going to the England Australia game but I was more interested in the Australia squad announcement tbh  |  |
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