| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' 00:13 - Oct 21 with 2096 views | g0ddard |
I guess I am going to contradict my self a little but if 'we could all see it coming' and 'everyone knew it would be called off' why did we travel?
OK. I accept that there's lots of fans that don't miss ANY games and are going to do everything right up until the last to try make sure they are there but...
So many on the twitter and the gram complaining and stating that it was always going to be called off but also are on their way back from travelling up there.
I'm just a little confused, I guess the post by Rotherham earlier was the turning point whereby people decided it was worth the risk as the pitch was fine?
I didn't have a ticket but will more likely be able to go to the game if it's moved to a Tuesday but I really can't imagine deciding to set off in this weather We are hardcore away fans aren't we?
[Post edited 21 Oct 2023 0:17]
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 00:17 - Oct 21 with 2068 views | WeirdFishes |
We left at around 12:30 after it was essentially confirmed it was going ahead. I don’t see how they didn’t consider the river overflowing and advising against travel. Really poor form.
Surely someone at Rotherham or the local authorities knew how much rain was coming and how much rain it would take to burst the rivers banks. |  |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 01:16 - Oct 21 with 1999 views | Vegtablue |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 00:17 - Oct 21 by WeirdFishes |
We left at around 12:30 after it was essentially confirmed it was going ahead. I don’t see how they didn’t consider the river overflowing and advising against travel. Really poor form.
Surely someone at Rotherham or the local authorities knew how much rain was coming and how much rain it would take to burst the rivers banks. |
They certainly should have because I posted such information yesterday; it was laid out plainly on the Met Office and other websites, including detailed forecasting of river levels and subsequent flooding. It isn't the responsibility of fans to carry out such detailed research and it defies belief that nobody involved in the decision making accessed this information earlier today or yesterday.
I'm confident they would have known the risk of flooding was very high but no value was placed on supporters' travel. The impact for decision makers in waiting for the breach was negligible, they weren't making lengthy, treacherous journeys after all, whereas calling the game off in the face of almost certain flooding came at a significant financial cost. And this likely answers the OP's question for many. Organizers didn't do the right thing and the game would have gone ahead with half of Rotherham underwater, were it not for a breach occurring on the stadium's doorstep. It was the right call not to trust supporter safety would be considered, only organizer liability, and it's why many will have made the farcical trip. | | | |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 06:25 - Oct 21 with 1865 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Perhaps you should read what an amber weather warning means. Clearly some people don’t know that this advice applies to deluded obsessives as well as sane, rational people | |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 09:56 - Oct 21 with 1577 views | GeoffSentence |
No-one from this end 'knew' it would be called off. From here we have little idea what the local conditions are like.
A lot of people were concerned that it could be called off, even thought it was a high risk, given the weather conditions.
The people who should have known were the locals, the people at the New York Stadium, familiar with the local geography and the current conditions, and they specifically said there were no concerns about the game going ahead.
Given that, there was little reason not to go. |  |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:14 - Oct 21 with 1528 views | RonFearonsHair |
I also ‘knew’ Leicester at home in the snow would be postponed so didn’t bother setting out. |  | | |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:15 - Oct 21 with 1514 views | Chrisd |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 00:17 - Oct 21 by WeirdFishes |
We left at around 12:30 after it was essentially confirmed it was going ahead. I don’t see how they didn’t consider the river overflowing and advising against travel. Really poor form.
Surely someone at Rotherham or the local authorities knew how much rain was coming and how much rain it would take to burst the rivers banks. |
Let’s not kid ourselves this decision was based on the safety of the fans, this was all about trying to keep the game on so Rotherham didn’t miss out on the TV money for a live game. That’s football in the modern era, it’s all about the money, nothing else. | |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:26 - Oct 21 with 1468 views | Bluebell |
I would guess Galloways coaches decided the journey wasn’t safe!
I can also see why people travelled, if we had been going, we would definitely have set out after seeing the report from Rotherham FC.
Don’t be so sure you will get a ticket if it is moved to a Tuesday. All the tickets were sold and there may not be many returns! |  | | |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:33 - Oct 21 with 1425 views | Churchman |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 06:25 - Oct 21 by ElephantintheRoom |
Perhaps you should read what an amber weather warning means. Clearly some people don’t know that this advice applies to deluded obsessives as well as sane, rational people |
Deluded obsessives? A rather ironic description given your deluded obsession is a fantasy utopian past and posting endless misery.
Leeds at home for your lot. An interesting game. |  | | |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:34 - Oct 21 with 1425 views | SitfcB |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:26 - Oct 21 by Bluebell |
I would guess Galloways coaches decided the journey wasn’t safe!
I can also see why people travelled, if we had been going, we would definitely have set out after seeing the report from Rotherham FC.
Don’t be so sure you will get a ticket if it is moved to a Tuesday. All the tickets were sold and there may not be many returns! |
The Galloways didn’t turn up because they physically couldn’t get the coaches out of their yard due to bad flooding in Mendlesham and on the A140.
One coach made it to PR and departed for Rotherham, but that was from a different company in Essex.
I wonder if everyone who missed the coaches returned their tickets when they realised they weren’t going to make it and thought the game was on…  |  |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 10:57 - Oct 21 with 1355 views | gainsboroughblue |
I guess I am going to contradict my self a little but if 'we could all see it coming' and 'everyone knew it would be called off' why did we travel?
Because Rotherham put out a statement that there were NO concerns about the game going ahead at 1035 am yesterday, then a further nothing until they finally confirmed rumours just after 5pm, by which time of course most people were either there or nearly there. |  |
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| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 11:04 - Oct 21 with 1329 views | Churchman |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 00:17 - Oct 21 by WeirdFishes |
We left at around 12:30 after it was essentially confirmed it was going ahead. I don’t see how they didn’t consider the river overflowing and advising against travel. Really poor form.
Surely someone at Rotherham or the local authorities knew how much rain was coming and how much rain it would take to burst the rivers banks. |
Back in the day when we’d do away days, we’d have done exactly what you did. Give it go. You can only decide based on the information out there at the time.
As I see it:
It was a stupid fixture to hold on a Friday night anyway. But Sky don’t give a monkeys. Sunderland away late in a Sunday first game hardly showed consideration for the supporters and that’s not the only daft decision they’ve made.
Rotherham’s messaging looks poor. Pitch is fine, no problem might have been true, but to not take account of what was happening locally and across the country had a touch of head in the sand about it. It looked stupid when they said it and so events proved.
After all these years, there still appears to be no joined up approach on situations like this. If the key elements are the clubs, supporters, Sky, the weather forecasters, LAs, Env Agency, EFL then there should be more coordination than we saw yesterday and clarity on who is accountable for making the decision..
This isn’t difficult. Just risk assess it on known factors and if there’s any doubt, postpone it. It’s a football match, not DDay. Who is accountable for that? The EFL set the fixtures before each season so how about them?
As far as Ipswich Town are concerned, we were on the wrong end of this. I’d be interested to hear the club’s take on what happened, given that it’s our supporters who footed the bill financially for wasted travel - and their time of course. | | | |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 13:06 - Oct 21 with 1204 views | Ryorry |
| 'we all knew it would be cancelled' on 11:04 - Oct 21 by Churchman |
Back in the day when we’d do away days, we’d have done exactly what you did. Give it go. You can only decide based on the information out there at the time.
As I see it:
It was a stupid fixture to hold on a Friday night anyway. But Sky don’t give a monkeys. Sunderland away late in a Sunday first game hardly showed consideration for the supporters and that’s not the only daft decision they’ve made.
Rotherham’s messaging looks poor. Pitch is fine, no problem might have been true, but to not take account of what was happening locally and across the country had a touch of head in the sand about it. It looked stupid when they said it and so events proved.
After all these years, there still appears to be no joined up approach on situations like this. If the key elements are the clubs, supporters, Sky, the weather forecasters, LAs, Env Agency, EFL then there should be more coordination than we saw yesterday and clarity on who is accountable for making the decision..
This isn’t difficult. Just risk assess it on known factors and if there’s any doubt, postpone it. It’s a football match, not DDay. Who is accountable for that? The EFL set the fixtures before each season so how about them?
As far as Ipswich Town are concerned, we were on the wrong end of this. I’d be interested to hear the club’s take on what happened, given that it’s our supporters who footed the bill financially for wasted travel - and their time of course. |
As someone said on another thread though, amber weather warnings & messages for the public generally not to travel unless absolutely necessary were broadcast on radio & TV well beforehand (I guess SM too, but I was barely on that).
Guess much depends on people's definition of "absolutely necessary' - a Town game when we've been in peak form clearly fitting the bill for some! |  |
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