| Schumacher 20:41 - Feb 24 with 2730 views | stickymockwell |
Well I bet he regrets that move now.
No doubt that McKenna is a phenomenon and is destined for the top but it just goes to prove that your surroundings, support staff and owners play a huge part in the success or failure of a club.
Sometimes the face just fits. I think Plymouth have done even better since he left. |  |
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| Schumacher on 20:52 - Feb 24 with 2588 views | Help |
At least Schumacher will get stoke promoted from league one like he did Plymouth |  |
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| Schumacher on 20:53 - Feb 24 with 2579 views | pointofblue |
| Schumacher on 20:52 - Feb 24 by Help |
At least Schumacher will get stoke promoted from league one like he did Plymouth |
I'm not sure if he'll be given the chance. |  |
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| Schumacher on 20:53 - Feb 24 with 2570 views | Keno |
I’d not realised they were in bottom 3 |  |
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| Schumacher on 21:30 - Feb 24 with 2379 views | EastTownBlue |
| Schumacher on 20:53 - Feb 24 by pointofblue |
I'm not sure if he'll be given the chance. |
If it isn't working for him and they are in danger of relegation his reign there may be very short indeed. | | | |
| Schumacher on 21:32 - Feb 24 with 2356 views | bournemouthblue |
| Schumacher on 21:30 - Feb 24 by EastTownBlue |
If it isn't working for him and they are in danger of relegation his reign there may be very short indeed. |
It was always a very strange move
Plymouth were actually very high in the metrics despite being shocking away
They may have inched their way up the table but I'm not convinced they have got better necessarily? |  |
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| Schumacher on 21:54 - Feb 24 with 2202 views | Melford |
Bit like Luton after Nathan Jones left and Brighton under Potter.
I reckon McKenna is smart enough to realise he's got a set-up that's totally based around him and he's got the trust and licence to do what he wants in will be supported in any way by the higher-ups. He won't get a better chance to succeed than with us right now. |  |
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| Schumacher on 09:04 - Feb 25 with 1665 views | ElephantintheRoom |
He’s not the first manager to find Stoke a millstone. Nor the first to see his previous club do well after he’s left.
Don’t underestimate the importance of the players you inherit when you jump on or off the gravy train. Many of St McKenna’s star performers came when the Cookster broke the mould by having a clear out and head but out. | |
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| Schumacher on 09:11 - Feb 25 with 1599 views | ITFC_Forever |
Plymouth’s form since he left is below average. |  |
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| Schumacher on 09:15 - Feb 25 with 1553 views | PhilTWTD |
| Schumacher on 21:32 - Feb 24 by bournemouthblue |
It was always a very strange move
Plymouth were actually very high in the metrics despite being shocking away
They may have inched their way up the table but I'm not convinced they have got better necessarily? |
Stoke's finances are in a different league to Plymouth's. There is the scope for Stoke to challenge for the Premier League if someone gets it right there, not sure that's the case at Plymouth. |  | | |
| Schumacher on 09:22 - Feb 25 with 1475 views | Plums |
| Schumacher on 20:53 - Feb 24 by pointofblue |
I'm not sure if he'll be given the chance. |
So many football club boards seem to be populated by people who leave their business strategy experience at the door. They seem to think changing the management team will instantly bring a replication of the manager's previous success. They ignore the conditions they inherited, they time they had to build and a host of other factors.
Schumacher was part of the previously successful Plymouth set up with all that was in place already for him. It wasn't built by him from scratch and didn't happen overnight.To replicate that at Stoke probably requires a significant culture change on and off the field and even with that happening, it would never be the same because personalities around the place will be different.
You're either buying into a long-term project or after a short-term fix. You can't have both. |  |
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| Schumacher on 09:31 - Feb 25 with 1425 views | TractorCam |
| Schumacher on 09:15 - Feb 25 by PhilTWTD |
Stoke's finances are in a different league to Plymouth's. There is the scope for Stoke to challenge for the Premier League if someone gets it right there, not sure that's the case at Plymouth. |
Same would have been said about Luton 2 years ago though. |  |
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| Schumacher on 09:36 - Feb 25 with 1387 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Schumacher on 09:15 - Feb 25 by PhilTWTD |
Stoke's finances are in a different league to Plymouth's. There is the scope for Stoke to challenge for the Premier League if someone gets it right there, not sure that's the case at Plymouth. |
Yeah it’s not too much of a stretch to see why you would trade Plymouth for Stoke, a club with deeper pockets, bigger ground, greater pulling power and no doubt a nice uplift on his salary. He’s also much closer to Liverpool where a lot of his family is I believe.
The fact it doesn’t appear to be going well makes it easy enough in hindsight to say it might not prove to be the best move, but at the time I could see the appeal.
Needs to keep them up though and get through to the summer where he’ll have a chance of straightening out the squad. |  | | |
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