| Difference in fortunes 22:01 - Aug 20 with 2578 views | bluesbrothers |
Ipswich last played Scunthorpe 13 years ago. On Saturday we played Liverpool in the league, and next Saturday play Man City. Tonight they played Needham Market in the league!
Actually thought it was more recent than that, but still! Also shocked at how high Needham Market are, had no idea. |  | | |  |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:02 - Aug 20 with 2534 views | DarkBrandon |
Needham vs Scunthorpe?
I’m guessing step 2? |  | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:18 - Aug 20 with 2453 views | bsw72 |
Needham are going to struggle this season I fear. They have done well in last few years but this season may be a stretch. |  | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:28 - Aug 20 with 2384 views | TractorCam |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:02 - Aug 20 by DarkBrandon |
Needham vs Scunthorpe?
I’m guessing step 2? |
Yep, Needham in the National League north! |  |
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| Difference in fortunes on 22:35 - Aug 20 with 2343 views | DarkBrandon |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:28 - Aug 20 by TractorCam |
Yep, Needham in the National League north! |
North?
I remember Lowestoft being in there a while back, but that is bonkers, | | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:47 - Aug 20 with 2278 views | Sharkey |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:35 - Aug 20 by DarkBrandon |
North?
I remember Lowestoft being in there a while back, but that is bonkers, |
Bishop's Stortford were in National League North last season. (Must have been very frustrating not to play Braintree, (National League South) which is just 17 miles due east.) |  | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:53 - Aug 20 with 2247 views | DarkBrandon |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:47 - Aug 20 by Sharkey |
Bishop's Stortford were in National League North last season. (Must have been very frustrating not to play Braintree, (National League South) which is just 17 miles due east.) |
Yes. Good side Stortford.
There’s a real step up between step 2 and 3, so Needham will certainly have their work cut out. | | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 13:06 - Aug 21 with 1917 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:35 - Aug 20 by DarkBrandon |
North?
I remember Lowestoft being in there a while back, but that is bonkers, |
Then consider that, in the League Trophy, Burton and Shrewsbury are in the Southern half of the draw. [Post edited 21 Aug 2024 18:50]
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| Difference in fortunes on 15:59 - Aug 21 with 1704 views | MattinLondon |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:35 - Aug 20 by DarkBrandon |
North?
I remember Lowestoft being in there a while back, but that is bonkers, |
I think it’s because Suffolk is considered some sort of buffer county - so depending on the makeup of the North and South divisions, a non-league team from there could find themselves in either league. Norfolk teams will go in the northern division
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| Difference in fortunes on 16:26 - Aug 21 with 1565 views | soupytwist |
| Difference in fortunes on 16:08 - Aug 21 by gainsboroughblue |
I'd not seen that graphic before. Is that Buckinghamshire I see there that goes further south than Berkshire but remains in the buffer section? [Post edited 21 Aug 2024 16:08]
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Buckinghamshire is in the buffer, with Oxfordshire to its west and Bedfordshire to its north east. Parts of it are just about further south than Wiltshire which is in the south section.
According to that map Bishops Stortford were very unfortunate last season to be in the National League North given that both Hertfordshire and Essex (which it's pretty much on the border between) are both in the southern section. |  | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 16:28 - Aug 21 with 1538 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Difference in fortunes on 16:08 - Aug 21 by gainsboroughblue |
I'd not seen that graphic before. Is that Buckinghamshire I see there that goes further south than Berkshire but remains in the buffer section? [Post edited 21 Aug 2024 16:08]
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I think the map is nonsense - there aren't any kind of boundaries for the divisions - the two divisions will always have an equal number of clubs. Allocations are purely dependent on which clubs are at step 2 at the time. If there was two seasons with only northern teams being relegated from the National League, the boundary would end up being further north, and vice-versa. Plus as pointed out above, Stortford have spent at least two seasons in the North despite Herts being shown as a South county.
IMO it would make sense for the FA to have fixed areas for divisions (as I think the German pyramid does) as this would give clubs more certainty about where they would end up if they were promoted/relegated. Having to move between the Isthmian League (when at step 4) and Southern League (at step 3) has been really challenging for clubs like Sudbury as it changes the pool of players available. [Post edited 21 Aug 2024 16:29]
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| Difference in fortunes on 16:34 - Aug 21 with 1487 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Difference in fortunes on 15:59 - Aug 21 by MattinLondon |
I think it’s because Suffolk is considered some sort of buffer county - so depending on the makeup of the North and South divisions, a non-league team from there could find themselves in either league. Norfolk teams will go in the northern division
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The buffer must be moveable depending on which teams qualify. Hertfordshire is shown there as a 'South' county but last season it had St Albans in NLS and Bishop's Stortford in NLN. | |
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| Difference in fortunes on 16:35 - Aug 21 with 1468 views | Deano69 |
| Difference in fortunes on 22:47 - Aug 20 by Sharkey |
Bishop's Stortford were in National League North last season. (Must have been very frustrating not to play Braintree, (National League South) which is just 17 miles due east.) |
Hereford FC in it too! |  |
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| Difference in fortunes on 16:50 - Aug 21 with 1390 views | solemio |
| Difference in fortunes on 16:35 - Aug 21 by Deano69 |
Hereford FC in it too! |
Well, clearly folk in Herefordshire consider themselves to be in the same part of the country as Northumberland. | | | |
| Difference in fortunes on 17:01 - Aug 21 with 1359 views | NthQldITFC |
| Difference in fortunes on 16:50 - Aug 21 by solemio |
Well, clearly folk in Herefordshire consider themselves to be in the same part of the country as Northumberland. |
Berks. |  |
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