| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day 19:24 - Sep 2 with 4576 views | homer_123 |
and have just beaten Charlton at home 3 nil.
McCarthy and Evans meet with the transfer window about to open.
Evans backs Mick with significant funds to strengthen the squad and we finish second and gain promotion.
Would you rather that scenario....not knowing what might be to come once promoted or accept the last decade and have what we have now? |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 19:33 - Sep 2 with 4192 views | MK1 |
That's a bl00dy tough question. As an old boy, I would probably take the former. The League One days were dark times. Guess neither scenario is the wrong choice.
Today, we are in a much stronger position than at any time under Evans, but those League One days were dark times. The Championship days I can easily live with, (I love the Championship) but League One was hell. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 19:57 - Sep 2 with 4061 views | ibbleobble |
The latter. The roof got cleaned, the place got a lick of paint and we lose a lot less balls. It’s the little things…. |  | | |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 19:59 - Sep 2 with 4046 views | SE1blue |
I'd always accept the latter scenario and where we are now.
Following Ipswich under Evans was like being unable to help, and having to watch, a loved one in a bad relationship. And I feel like the really bad parts of the last ten years needed to happen in order for the club to see what an utterly toxic relationship it was and to walkaway from the past.
We are in a much healthier position now than any brief stint (let's be honest, Mick would have got found out quickly) in the Premiership would have ever brought under Evans. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:02 - Sep 2 with 4015 views | TractorCam |
Going through the trenches in League One makes the now even sweeter.
Also I remember how dull Wolves were in the Prem under Mick, compared to how we currently are performing with McKenna. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:05 - Sep 2 with 3993 views | Lord_Lucan |
That was a blooming brilliant day.
There were a couple of fantastic Brentford days in succession. I refer to one of them as Georgie Bingham day and the other as Green Dress day……
…..but I can’t remember which was which.
I think that was Georgie Bingham day. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:06 - Sep 2 with 3990 views | WeWereZombies |
As a pitch for a Hollywood movie I think the big noise you have cornered in the elevator gets out at the next floor before you have finished...unless you add in that swiftly after the Rio Olympics an extradition order is successfully obtained and the club owner flees in a 'Catch Me If You Can' scenario.
Oh, and second option when I think of the 'dependable' big names MickMa would have signed to bore us to tears with. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:15 - Sep 2 with 3896 views | SE1blue |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:06 - Sep 2 by WeWereZombies |
As a pitch for a Hollywood movie I think the big noise you have cornered in the elevator gets out at the next floor before you have finished...unless you add in that swiftly after the Rio Olympics an extradition order is successfully obtained and the club owner flees in a 'Catch Me If You Can' scenario.
Oh, and second option when I think of the 'dependable' big names MickMa would have signed to bore us to tears with. |
Spending £60m on Wes Brown and Stephen Ward. | |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:21 - Sep 2 with 3881 views | Reuser_is_God |
I wouldn’t swap the last 2 years for anything.
Imagine we had gone up with Mick, just a load of cloggers scrapping for a draw in every game, no thanks. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:28 - Sep 2 with 3813 views | Lord_Lucan |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:21 - Sep 2 by Reuser_is_God |
I wouldn’t swap the last 2 years for anything.
Imagine we had gone up with Mick, just a load of cloggers scrapping for a draw in every game, no thanks. |
There were so many fantastic times over the past couple of years. I remember trying to watch Barnsley and Exeter in China.
Last season Hull and Cov away spring to mind. I’m in a pub in Norwich right now where I watched the Cov game and as I came in here earlier I was looking at the TV and remembered dancing around like a loon.
As I left the game on Saturday I read one of those stadium picture things and it said something like “Leif Davis scores an important winner against Port Vale - and I’m pretty sure it said April 2023.
I mean WTF?????!!!!
No matter what happens now, even if progress, those last two years will never ever be beaten.
They are akin to two seasons of Bolton play off semi final wins [Post edited 2 Sep 2024 21:28]
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:29 - Sep 2 with 3791 views | Zx1988 |
Imagine the summer 2015 transfer window with Evans in charge of the purse strings.
We'd have made that Derby County team look half-way competent. | |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:30 - Sep 2 with 3787 views | Reuser_is_God |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:28 - Sep 2 by Lord_Lucan |
There were so many fantastic times over the past couple of years. I remember trying to watch Barnsley and Exeter in China.
Last season Hull and Cov away spring to mind. I’m in a pub in Norwich right now where I watched the Cov game and as I came in here earlier I was looking at the TV and remembered dancing around like a loon.
As I left the game on Saturday I read one of those stadium picture things and it said something like “Leif Davis scores an important winner against Port Vale - and I’m pretty sure it said April 2023.
I mean WTF?????!!!!
No matter what happens now, even if progress, those last two years will never ever be beaten.
They are akin to two seasons of Bolton play off semi final wins [Post edited 2 Sep 2024 21:28]
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I think we’ll only appreciate how good it’s been once McKenna does eventually move on. | |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:30 - Sep 2 with 3781 views | Garv |
Bloody hell, if anyone isn't choosing scenario number two I don't get it. What we've just done in the last two seasons has been historic. Five (I think) teams have done it back to back and no one since 2012.
We'd have also had to watch backs against the wall football in the PL. Now, we're seeing us genuinely have a proper go and not just worrying about what the other team is doing. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:33 - Sep 2 with 3728 views | Lord_Lucan |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:30 - Sep 2 by Reuser_is_God |
I think we’ll only appreciate how good it’s been once McKenna does eventually move on. |
At least they will be cherished memories.
I reckon people your age will be talking about it for years to come in a similar way that us old farts talk about “Back in the day”.
I can’t see McKenna staying after this season whatever happens so important to enjoy it. | |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:44 - Sep 2 with 3645 views | Garv |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 19:33 - Sep 2 by MK1 |
That's a bl00dy tough question. As an old boy, I would probably take the former. The League One days were dark times. Guess neither scenario is the wrong choice.
Today, we are in a much stronger position than at any time under Evans, but those League One days were dark times. The Championship days I can easily live with, (I love the Championship) but League One was hell. |
Were they really that bad? We were mid table and languishing somewhat, but it was only in the context of where we expected to be. We weren't in threat of relegation whatsoever and we spent decent periods at the top of the table. I know that's a low bar but 'dark' times? Evans' ownership had deserved relegation and we'd been crap for 4 years after losing in the play offs to Norwich. We weren't exactly giants of the game anymore.
We only had two seasons down there pre takeover, one of which was cut short through Covid, and ultimately won we more than we lost. 2016/17 and 2017/18 were more depressing in my book. | |
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| I love that ground. on 20:49 - Sep 2 with 3628 views | victorywilhappen |
Had a Brazillian with Lucan after.
Not that sort.
London is dead on Boxing Day it took ages to find a pub in Notting Hill. |  | | |
| I love that ground. on 21:07 - Sep 2 with 3519 views | Lord_Lucan |
| I love that ground. on 20:49 - Sep 2 by victorywilhappen |
Had a Brazillian with Lucan after.
Not that sort.
London is dead on Boxing Day it took ages to find a pub in Notting Hill. |
Ah, if that’s the day we had the Rodizio then it was Georgie Bingham day.
If you remember we spuffed for the bill. | |
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| I love that ground. on 21:24 - Sep 2 with 3420 views | victorywilhappen |
| I love that ground. on 21:07 - Sep 2 by Lord_Lucan |
Ah, if that’s the day we had the Rodizio then it was Georgie Bingham day.
If you remember we spuffed for the bill. |
BRUUUUUU | | | |
| I love that ground. on 21:40 - Sep 2 with 3310 views | SitfcB |
| I love that ground. on 21:07 - Sep 2 by Lord_Lucan |
Ah, if that’s the day we had the Rodizio then it was Georgie Bingham day.
If you remember we spuffed for the bill. |
What did you do to Georgie Bingham?  |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 01:10 - Sep 3 with 2935 views | J2BLUE |
Easy question.
Accept it. The Prem under MM would have been horrific. This is better than we could have ever dreamed of. The thought that Evans might still be here today makes me feel a bit sick. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 01:50 - Sep 3 with 2857 views | Stenvict |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 20:05 - Sep 2 by Lord_Lucan |
That was a blooming brilliant day.
There were a couple of fantastic Brentford days in succession. I refer to one of them as Georgie Bingham day and the other as Green Dress day……
…..but I can’t remember which was which.
I think that was Georgie Bingham day. |
Fun fact. Georgie Bingham bought a ticket off me for that game. | |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 05:39 - Sep 3 with 2699 views | IPS_wich |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 01:10 - Sep 3 by J2BLUE |
Easy question.
Accept it. The Prem under MM would have been horrific. This is better than we could have ever dreamed of. The thought that Evans might still be here today makes me feel a bit sick. |
I don't think it's that easy. For me this is definitely a yellow legal pad pros and cons debate.
Scenario: Evans invests in MM and we achieve promotion to the Prem in 2015/16
Pros:
- We return to the Premier League at a time when the divide between Prem and Champ is less than it is today.
- If we get relegated then we get access to parachute money earlier
- We probably don't get the Pauls as managers (and especially no WTF 5-year contract for Lambert when most of the fans wanted him out)
- We probably don't end up in League 1 (which despite some of the comments on this thread is still the darkest days in my almost 50 years of supporting the club)
- We probably don't end up with quite so many embarrassing cup defeats (Probably no Barrow).
Cons:
- Evans is still the owner
- We never get KMac as Manager
- We don't get to experience back to back promotions
- We have to suffer MM managing in the premier league (we would be the most hated team in the land for the 2-3 seasons of parking the bus in order to finish 16th/17th)
I think I'm just on the side of thank goodness we didn't go up; but the opportunity to expunge Hirst and Lambert from our history is deeply tempting. | | | |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 07:32 - Sep 3 with 2521 views | BlueBoots |
Definitely what we have now...likely scenarios if we'd gone up then:
* Trying to grind out draws under McCarthy to stay in the Prem
* McCarthy losing his job and being replaced poorly
* Evans spending the minimum possible to try to keep us up
* Evans cashing in by selling the club to dubious owners
The last 3 1/2 years have sorted the club out from top to bottom...without relegation to League One we wouldn't have had the new owners, we wouldn't have Ashton appointed by the new owners, and we wouldn't have KMcK appointed by Ashton.
The only stroke of luck we had prior to Gamechanger coming in was Paul Cook still being at the club to carry out the squad overhaul - the 19 signings included Walton, Hladky, Edmundson, Burgess, Morsy, Evans, Chaplin, Burns and Aluko who have all played a massive part in getting us to where we are now. |  |
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| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 10:38 - Sep 3 with 2287 views | Stewart27 |
The now.
With the complete benefit of hindsight. League one was completely worth of for what has happed since GC, Ashton and KM arrived.
Watching a Mick McCarthy team owned by Marcus Evans in the premier league would have been brutal. | | | |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 17:52 - Sep 3 with 1944 views | Bluespeed225 |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 01:10 - Sep 3 by J2BLUE |
Easy question.
Accept it. The Prem under MM would have been horrific. This is better than we could have ever dreamed of. The thought that Evans might still be here today makes me feel a bit sick. |
It would have been a mirror image of the other MM in the Prem. Mick McGiven… | | | |
| It's 30th December 2014....we've stuffed Brentford away 4-2 on Boxing Day on 19:17 - Sep 3 with 1876 views | mutters |
The former, as I suspect Evans might have sold up within a few years (if we had stayed up
) once he had a decent return on his investment. Who knows who our owners could have been in this scenario? |  |
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