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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) 19:04 - Oct 19 with 3897 viewsWoolfenthen

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:09 - Oct 19 with 2838 viewsFrimleyBlue

He should have headed it out.
However he did find a blue shirt so it was safe all burns had to do was clear it.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:14 - Oct 19 with 2796 viewsgtsb1966

Obviously I hope he goes on to be a player we talk about for being such a good player for us but at the moment he looks so out of his depth. How he was valued at 10m is a mystery. Definitely got our pants pulled down on that one.
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:20 - Oct 19 with 2695 viewsFrimleyBlue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:14 - Oct 19 by gtsb1966

Obviously I hope he goes on to be a player we talk about for being such a good player for us but at the moment he looks so out of his depth. How he was valued at 10m is a mystery. Definitely got our pants pulled down on that one.


Has any player shown why we paid what we did for them?

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:20 - Oct 19 with 2704 viewsTractorWood

It was an Omnishambles tbf.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:21 - Oct 19 with 2696 viewspointofblue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:20 - Oct 19 by FrimleyBlue

Has any player shown why we paid what we did for them?


Greaves and Delap. That's it.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:21 - Oct 19 with 2673 viewshomer_123

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:20 - Oct 19 by FrimleyBlue

Has any player shown why we paid what we did for them?


Delap.

Ade Akinbiyi couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:23 - Oct 19 with 2641 viewsgtsb1966

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:20 - Oct 19 by FrimleyBlue

Has any player shown why we paid what we did for them?


To be honest i think Greaves will be a top player and I know Clarke was poor today but his performance against Villa gives me hope....and Delap of course.
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:23 - Oct 19 with 2634 viewsTractorWood

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:20 - Oct 19 by FrimleyBlue

Has any player shown why we paid what we did for them?


Our transfer business is looking relatively terrible tbh.

Muric made a couple of saves today but I think Calvert Lewin did most of the hard work.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:30 - Oct 19 with 2538 viewspointofblue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:23 - Oct 19 by TractorWood

Our transfer business is looking relatively terrible tbh.

Muric made a couple of saves today but I think Calvert Lewin did most of the hard work.


The more I see of him, the more I wonder why we didn't just pay Hladky what he wanted and save on the transfer fee.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:32 - Oct 19 with 2522 viewsbournemouthblue

It was two pretty poor mistakes, why were we heading the box straight back into a danger area and then the miscontrol from Burns just compounds it
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:33 - Oct 19 with 2504 viewsFrimleyBlue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:30 - Oct 19 by pointofblue

The more I see of him, the more I wonder why we didn't just pay Hladky what he wanted and save on the transfer fee.


Yeah. He's unfortunately a prime candidate of proving chasing data signings isn't always the best thing to do.

Kinda feels like that's how we went about all our summer signings. Bar a couple. Most don't actually suit a mckenna team.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:34 - Oct 19 with 2491 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:30 - Oct 19 by pointofblue

The more I see of him, the more I wonder why we didn't just pay Hladky what he wanted and save on the transfer fee.


Man City aside.. I think Muric has been pretty solid.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:36 - Oct 19 with 2461 viewsTractorWood

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:34 - Oct 19 by TRUE_BLUE123

Man City aside.. I think Muric has been pretty solid.


I'm noticeably less terrified with him in goal than Hladky.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:39 - Oct 19 with 2402 viewsbournemouthblue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:34 - Oct 19 by TRUE_BLUE123

Man City aside.. I think Muric has been pretty solid.


In terms of shot stopping, he keeps us in it at times

I appreciate the passing out hasn't been great and teams deliberately go with the high press knowing we are lacking confidence there

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:39 - Oct 19 with 2387 viewsArnieM

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:34 - Oct 19 by TRUE_BLUE123

Man City aside.. I think Muric has been pretty solid.


West Ham?

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:41 - Oct 19 with 2373 viewsITFC_Forever

Winning the first contact.

Not sure what else he was supposed to do.

Burns’ air shot gifted it to the scorer. If he makes a proper connection, situation is avoided.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:42 - Oct 19 with 2345 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:39 - Oct 19 by ArnieM

West Ham?


That feels a long time ago.

But im not sure what goals he was at fault for in that game.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:44 - Oct 19 with 2325 viewsgtsb1966

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:41 - Oct 19 by ITFC_Forever

Winning the first contact.

Not sure what else he was supposed to do.

Burns’ air shot gifted it to the scorer. If he makes a proper connection, situation is avoided.


Watch it again. You never ever head it back like that. Yes Burns was as fault but it should've been headed out for a corner. Terrible defending.
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:46 - Oct 19 with 2295 viewsbournemouthblue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:30 - Oct 19 by pointofblue

The more I see of him, the more I wonder why we didn't just pay Hladky what he wanted and save on the transfer fee.


I can't see us ever managing to find a better footballing keeper than Hladky, he was ridiculously good with the feet

I do have question marks over him as a stopper and I do think last season masked those weaknesses a little bit

Muric is a PL stopper and claims ball in the air too pretty commandingly

If you are judging him on the playing out and it's hard not to, given how good Hladky was at it, then you're going to be disappointed

He will get better at that as confidence and understanding grows with the back four but it's unlikely he's going to match Hladky's ability there, few will

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:52 - Oct 19 with 2226 viewsOsmansCleanSheet

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:42 - Oct 19 by TRUE_BLUE123

That feels a long time ago.

But im not sure what goals he was at fault for in that game.


There was the suicidal pass to Morsy which ultimately led to a goal and, for the third, although Johnson’s back pass wasn’t great, the way Muric dealt with it was pretty poor.
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:58 - Oct 19 with 2174 viewsDublinBlue84

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:52 - Oct 19 by OsmansCleanSheet

There was the suicidal pass to Morsy which ultimately led to a goal and, for the third, although Johnson’s back pass wasn’t great, the way Muric dealt with it was pretty poor.


I'm not convinced by Muric.

I think that he does have better presence that Hladky, but Hladky is far better with the ball at his feet by a long way.

Also Hladky had built a relationship and understanding with Morsy and the defenders and bringing a new keeper in forces that to be built from scratch, which in a team that is expecting a tough season, is not ideal.

I just think a promoted team changing their keeper for one who overall is not a big upgrade and having to rebuild that understanding is a great thing to have to be doing.

Aside from putting the ball out for a corner when he really shouldn't have today, we saw that the lack of relationship with Burgess and Muric led to the second goal, as neither of them knew whether to leave it or go for it, with Hladky I think there would have been a much more defintive decision as Hladky and Burgess have so much experience together.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:59 - Oct 19 with 2164 viewsLittleBoyBlue1

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:58 - Oct 19 by DublinBlue84

I'm not convinced by Muric.

I think that he does have better presence that Hladky, but Hladky is far better with the ball at his feet by a long way.

Also Hladky had built a relationship and understanding with Morsy and the defenders and bringing a new keeper in forces that to be built from scratch, which in a team that is expecting a tough season, is not ideal.

I just think a promoted team changing their keeper for one who overall is not a big upgrade and having to rebuild that understanding is a great thing to have to be doing.

Aside from putting the ball out for a corner when he really shouldn't have today, we saw that the lack of relationship with Burgess and Muric led to the second goal, as neither of them knew whether to leave it or go for it, with Hladky I think there would have been a much more defintive decision as Hladky and Burgess have so much experience together.


Ashton's biggest mistake at town I think was letting Hladky walk
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 20:05 - Oct 19 with 2112 viewsFrimleyBlue

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:58 - Oct 19 by DublinBlue84

I'm not convinced by Muric.

I think that he does have better presence that Hladky, but Hladky is far better with the ball at his feet by a long way.

Also Hladky had built a relationship and understanding with Morsy and the defenders and bringing a new keeper in forces that to be built from scratch, which in a team that is expecting a tough season, is not ideal.

I just think a promoted team changing their keeper for one who overall is not a big upgrade and having to rebuild that understanding is a great thing to have to be doing.

Aside from putting the ball out for a corner when he really shouldn't have today, we saw that the lack of relationship with Burgess and Muric led to the second goal, as neither of them knew whether to leave it or go for it, with Hladky I think there would have been a much more defintive decision as Hladky and Burgess have so much experience together.


Think people underestimate how much this can effect what defenders do. How many times in recent games did we see greaves try and do something rather than pass back to muric.. same today with Burgess and wolft on a few occasions. Phillips too would rather try and outside of right foot to Burgess than a simple straight pass back to muric.

Absolutely you need someone who can save shots. But when it causes defenders to make mistakes then it is a problem.

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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 20:06 - Oct 19 with 2112 viewsOsmansCleanSheet

Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 19:59 - Oct 19 by LittleBoyBlue1

Ashton's biggest mistake at town I think was letting Hladky walk


As good as he is with his feet, I don’t think Hladky is a good enough keeper for the Premier League.
I’m not necessarily saying that Muric is by the way.
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Those blaming Burns for 1st goal, wtf is O'Shea doing?? (n/t) on 20:43 - Oct 19 with 1975 viewscressi

Don't rate Muric, Johnson ,
Ogbene O'shea
And some others I'm unsure off worrying times.
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